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  1. Perhaps if you go to the page of the following link it will clear your doubts. Scroll down til you find one Victory picture and you will see the object jutting out of the channel and that the white line rigged goes to the anchor fluke and as it is hauled in it will lift the fluke to the horizontal position hope that helps
  2. Perhaps if you reverse the windlass easy leaving the bars in the sockets until one of the bars touches the deck (or use a shorter one in that place to have less bending) it would do the trick. Continuing to enjoy your building and research Zeh
  3. Hello all I managed to find in this site https://forum.game-labs.net/forum/62-age-of-sail-historical-discussions/ what Mark was looking for. A painting by Antoine Roux of a frigate in a gale with topgallant masts taken down to the deck, topmasts lowered and mainspars pulled forward by the tacks (unless I translated it wrong) away from the masts. Hope it helps Zeh
  4. Hello I don't think there would be any eye bolts because the cargo would have to be dragged across the deck to the opening of the hatch to be lifted out. At least on iron hulled ships there were clamps on the sides on wich heavy boards running fore and aft were inserted and wich provided anchoring points for lashings. the cargo would be held againt the sides. To complement the lashings one would use beams cut to size and wedged between crates to further immobilize the cargo. There's more to it but that's the general idea hope that helps Zeh
  5. Hi Nils I've been following your build with interest, beautiful craftmanship and what's more you manage to capture a flavour of a type of shipbuilding. There were still some very similar (tough some forty years youger) old ships around when I started at sea. Now to buoys: there was a shipwreck near Oporto in 1913 and the helm and a buoy were preserved. Most passangers were saved althoug there were casualties, to add a little atmosphere watch the video of passenger transfer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eVpSa8k1QQ hope that helps Zeh
  6. Hello Daniel Not that surprising actually, while not having sailing ship experience I was told that the helmsman would steer by paying attention to the weather leech of the topsail or topgallant (the tallest sail set) of the mast in front of him, never letting it flap (keeping the sails full). The responsability of cheking if there was an excessive ruder angle being used (or if they were straying too much from the course) fell on the officer of the watch, and he would call for a sail trim or order a change of course if needed. He was the one that reallyhad to know how things were going. Cheers Zeh
  7. If you want/need any help with portuguese sources I'd be glad to help Zeh

    1. Louie da fly

      Louie da fly

      Thanks. Yes, I'm very interested in this period. At the moment I'm concentrating on my dromon build, but later I am thinking of building a model from this era - I just haven't worked out which one I want to do. I've read quite a bit in English on the different building styles of ships from various countries during this age, but nothing so far in Portuguese. When I come to do more research on them I might take you up on your kind offer.


      And thank you for adding me as...

  8. Hi Steven, I have been noticing yous interest in the ships of the age of discovery.

  9. Hi Jud I agree that there's a lot of chaffing in the the final meters or feet but I think that would not be much more than the wear from the cable on the bottom to and fro as the ship keeps swinging. I recall reading somewhere (can't place it right now) that the part of the cable nearest to the anchor was reinforced to resist chaffing on the bottom, which would also protect the cable in the hawse. I stand corrected on my thoughts about the force necessary to start the ship moving according the the link bellow, it seems that they used "dead slow ahead" too. https://books.google.pt/books?id=4bYoCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=hms+victory+dimensions+anchor&source=bl&ots=3wfmia38p4&sig=b6wZodd96O1ObvDaZwQ8e2cOiw0&hl=pt-PT&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjfoumRwpvNAhXMiRoKHXNHAJkQ6AEIYjAM#v=onepage&q=hms%20victory%20dimensions%20anchor&f=false pages 89 and 90. On page 91 I would rather say the cable paid out to be three to five times the depht of water depending on the type of bottom and weather conditions. I would say they were very much aware of the problem you raise, so much that as soon as they could place the hawseholes in a less awkward position (as we now have them placed) without compromising the strenght of the bows they did - iron construction. Zeh
  10. Hi Jud When you start heaving the anchor you're trying to get an object weighing about 1500 tons moving. That's the moment the chain or cable is under the greatest stress, once you get the ship moving it's easy. When the anchor is up and down you have to contend only with someting like 3 tons, unless the anchor is fouled on the bottom, that bend really acts as a brake, but is not under enough stress to damage the cable. As an aside, on ships with weak anchor winches or capstans we would go dead slow ahead as we started heaving to overcome the inertia of the ship then stop and let the capstan carry on. The cat can only be used once the anchor is out of the water so that the tackle can be hooked to the anchor and the main purpose is to move the anchor from the hawseholes (where it would eventually end) to the side of the ship to then be stowed. All the best Zeh
  11. Hi Daniel Here goes a detail, I think you can magnify it quite a lot before losing resolution. I'm not sure if what I supposed to be a roller really is or just a shadow, but there seems to be horizontal sheaves on either side of the roller (or opening). By the way, there are signs of some panneling on the low stern board.......... Cheers Zeh
  12. Well Steven you're right about the origin of the name, but by that date it was a christian name, not a nickname. The Captains or Amirals of discovery expeditions were either squires from D. Henriques' household, or the king's, or members of the gentry and small nobility already having some sailing experience and astronomical knowledge. The only possible exception to that rule was the period 1460-1474 when it was outsourced, so to speak. (death of D. Henrique to the taking charge of the futur John II) So it happens with Vasco da Gama, the son of the governor of a small town, that belonged to the household of the Master of the Order Of Christ which usualy financed the discoveries ..........and reaped its profits. I will check here the MSW thread. I did look up the tapestry, impressive, but the ships seem to be closer to some flemish engravings ( somebody signing W A) with a still medieval scent rather than something new. There's indeed a theory that the portuguese indeed reached Australia in the early 1600s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Capricorn If I can be of any help don't hesitate Zeh
  13. I'd like that, thank you. After a long time away from that time period my interest is slowly returning. My interest faded because no one could even agree on what a caravel looked like and how it would manoeuvre and much of the discussion was biased, i.e. the portuguese greatness and uniqueness were the aims taking the discussion out of the european context. (forty some years later I still find I am biased). A few years back I found Texas A&M research and I have been following their research throug Academia.edu. All the best Zeh
  14. Steven It's probably old news to you but here goes a link to the Miller atlas from 1519 drawn by Lopo Homem and the brothers Reinel and has a lot of drawings of ships both portuguese and eastern http://expositions.bnf.fr/marine/albums/miller/index.htm Enjoy Zeh
  15. Well, I don't know the Calicut tapestry, but I'm ready to take your word on it. You made me go back and find if I was just reproducing second hand schoolbook illustrations. there is at least one contemporary drawing already showing the shapes I recall. It'a a page of Livro das Armadas (Fleet's Book) showing the fleet of Pedro Alvares Cabral in 1500 the same fleet that discovered Brasil, with the fate of the ships, including in the right lower corner the caravel of Bartolomeu Dias with the note "lost in the storm". Look at the shapes in the first row, they are what I recalled, though a bit schematic. Personal note: I am not trying to assert I'm right I'm just putting forward what I think I know to be discussed and if I can learn something from it so much the better which usually happens because most members here are much more knowleageable than I All the best Zeh
  16. Hi Steven You're probably closer to being right than I, but that type of image of the discoveries "naus" is with me from my school days, and reinforced by the sort of reconstructions as in the link bellow (second photo), so I couldn't resist http://museu.marinha.pt/pt/galeriadigital/fotografias/modelos/Paginas/default.aspx thanks for replying Zeh
  17. Sorry to disagree Steven just fifty years apart in time, but almost a world apart in concept and capabilities She would look more or less like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flor_de_la_Mar They were contemporary and about the same size. Zeh
  18. Whatever it is it's covered by canvas all the way to the deck, so I would go with cranes and aligned with the quarterdeck cranes. About the guns they seem to me to be swivel guns......sensible precaution in battle if you're boarded cheers Zeh
  19. Hi Daniel To me they seem to be fairleads, and to have a small roller in front. (I have that picture in my computer, can enlarge it quite a bit but had never noticed it) keep digging up this sort of stuff Zeh
  20. Hi Dafi In the following link you will find the full process of hauling up the anchor, albeit in the late XIX century, and getting under way. The capstans are still manual and there is the sequence of operations, the stations for the crew, etc. http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/age-of-sail/textbook-of-seamanship/getting-under-way-under-sail/ hope this helps Zeh
  21. Well, not pretending to have the answer here are my thoughts: To steady the end between frames perhaps could they have used a wedge? the other end could just be bent 90 degrees instead of mushroomed? I have seen large iron nails bent that way, and perhaps the iron ring was put there to provide support for the bending and avoid the wood splitting? If this will help you to sleep at night so much the better Zeh
  22. Hello Nils First it's a wonderful build, I've been following and enjoying. Now, about the winches: I think what you are missing is a plan where they show a layout for eyebolts on deck and on the sides of the deck houses to know where you can attach a block to change the direction of the rope run, The rope must be fed into the winches drums as straight as possible, so to work the boats you would have to have a block through wich the rope would go and make a 90 degree turn, Even so I think two or at most three boats could be worked. On the other hand you have two funnels that need constant touching up and a lot of very heavy rigging that also need to be looked after and eventually replaced at regular intervals and those stays are heavy. Perhaps?....I don't know, but I can't resist imagining how things can possibly work. Cheers Zeh
  23. Sunshine, light airs, rotten ice.................Spring is coming! (2010)
  24. It was a dark and stormy night......

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