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today's link is to the HMS Royal Charles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Royal_Charles_(1655) This ship was an 80-gun 1st rate that was first named NASEBY. Several years after Oliver Cromwell assumed the title of Lord Protector of England, he authorized the construction of three “great ships” for the Navy. These were the NASEBY (named for his victory over the royalists in 1645), the 64-gun LONDON and DUNBAR (the later subsequently named HENRY.) The NASEBY’S dimensions were: Length, 162 feet; Breadth, 52 feet 6 inches; Depth, 11 feet; tons, 1,230; Hull, wood; Armament, 80 guns; designed by Peter Pett and built at Woolwich Dockyard, England in 1655. NASBEY’S original adornments included a figure-head portraying, according to Samuel Pepys, “Oliver on horseback trampling 6 nations under foote, a Scott, Irishman, Dutch, French, Spaniard and English as was easily made out by their several habits: A Fame held a laurel over his insulting head, & the word God with us.” When King Charles II returned from exile in the NASEBY, he ordered the ship named for himself as well as the figurehead of Neptune, an act that irritated the parsimonious Pepys, who complained, “God knows, it is even the flinging away of 100 pounds out of the King’s purse.” Thus the HMS ROYAL CHARLES was born from the now ex NASEBY. The ship under either name did not participate in the First Anglo-Dutch War in 1652-4 since she was not yet built. The Second Anglo-Dutch War, which began in 1665, was another story. In the first battle on June 13, 1665, HMS ROYAL CHARLES was the flagship of the Duke of York (the future King James II), who was the Lord High Admiral. At this battle of Lowestoft both fleets numbered over 100 ships. The English had superior gun power, bigger ships and were more organized than the Dutch (the English fought in the new Line of Battle), but the Dutch fought very well. By midafternoon, the HMS ROYAL CHARLES was in danger of being sunk or surrendered to the EENDRACHT when the Dutch flagship exploded, killing all but five of her 400 crew, including the Dutch Admiral Wassenaer van Obdam. HMS ROYAL CHARLES was so damaged that eh Duke shifted his flag to the HMS ST. MICHAEL and later still the HMS ROYAL JAMES. Nonetheless, Lowestoftwas a clear English victory, with only 250 dead compared with the 4,000 Dutch dead. This was the last battle of the year 1665, since the fleets only fought during good weather in the summer, the bulk of the fighting taking place in the English Channel close to both fleets home ports. In the spring of 1666, command of the English fleet was divided between Prince Rubert and George Monck, Duck of Albermarle, in HMS ROYAL CHARLES. At the end of May, the Dutch fleet still being in port, King Charles unwisely divided his fleet and sent Prince Rubert west to prevent a French force from joining the Dutch. Unknown to King Charles, this was not going to happen, but the damage was done. This resulted in Monck confronting the Dutch fleet of 85 ships under Admiral Michiel Adriaanszoon de Ruyter with only 56 English ships. Monck decided to attack the Dutch on June 1st, even though he was heavily outnumbered. This lead to the capture of the disabled and hopelessly trapped second-rate SWIFTSURE by the Dutch ship REIGER, following a heroic defense in which Vice-Admiral Sir William Berkeley was killed. But overall the English did well on the first day. Early on the second day Monck profited from a tactical error by Lieutenant Admiral Cornelis Tromp, until de Ruyter came to his countryman’s assistance. Each side lost three ships. On June 3rd Monck had to retreat toward the English coast, as his ships were in bad shape. During the withdrawal (or tactical retreat), the HMS ROYAL PRINCE (90 guns) ran aground on Galloper Shoal and was burned by the Dutch. Monck, at the end of the 3rd day, joined forces with the ships under the command of Prince Rubert, who now came up to help with his ships which had been originally sent west. The two fleets rejoined the battle on the June 4th and the battle could have went either way. Through a stroke of good luck and hard fighting, the Dutch came out victorious, although both fleets were so badly damaged that they could not have fought another day. The English in particular were running out of ammunition! The Four Days Battle of 1666 remains one of the longest fleet engagements on record. Although the English losses were more than double those of the Dutch – 20 ships lost (depending on the source of the information, as there is some question as to the exact number of ships lost on both sides) and many killed on both sides, the English regrouped fast, and the fleet put to see again in July. The Dutch were the only ones who had prizes taken (six ships) and thought that they had completely destroyed the English fleet. Fifty days later, they were proved wrong. On August 4th the two fleets met again, the Dutch confident of a victory. The HMS ROYAL CHARLES was again the flagship of the English, but this time their fleet was not divided, their losses suffered in June were replaced, and they had additional help with the mighty SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, which did not fight in the Four Days Battle due to lack of manpower! The battle proved disastrous for the Dutch, although de Ruyter fought long and well. Dutch losses this time amounted to 20 ships, the English lost 3 ships. This battle is known as the St. James’ Day Fight by the English. In the Spring of 1667, the English treasury was exhausted by a combination of Charles’s extravagance and the lasting effects of both the Great Plague of 1665 and the London fire of September 1666. Charles decided to economize by laying up his fleet. Seeing their opportunity, the Dutch fleet attacked the fort at Sheerness on June 10th and advanced up the Medway. The English scuttled a number of ships in an effort to block the channel, and an iron chain was strung across the river between Upnor and Gillingham. Over the course of three days, twenty-three ships were lost, most intentionally sunk by the English and then burned by the Dutch. The losses included two first rates, three second rates, two third rates, six fourth rates and one sixth rate. Orders were given to burn the HMS ROYAL CHARLES, but at the approach of a Dutch boat from the BESCHERMING, the crew fled. As Pepys recounted, “The Dutch did take her with a boat of nine men, who found not a man aboard her, and …..presently a man went up and struck her flag and jack……They did carry her down at a time when both for wind and tide, when the best pilot in Chatham would not have undertaken it, they heeling her on one side to make her draw little water.” In short, the HMS ROYAL CHARLES was taken as a prize and sailed to a Dutch port. Incompatible with the needs of the Dutch fleet (she drew to much water), HMS ROYAL CHARLES never fought again and the Dutch displayed her at Rotterdam as a war trophy. She was auctioned and broken up in 1673, during the Third Anglo-Dutch War. For an excellent read and a more complete account of the Four Days’ Battle of 1666, I highly recommend the book A DISTANT STORM: The Four Days’ Battle of 1666 by Frank L. Fox, Press of Sail Publications, 1996.
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June 12 1652 English squadron under Sir George Ayscue overtook the Dutch outward bound East Indian fleet of forty merchantmen, and secured six prizes off the Lizard. 1667 HMS Royal Charles (80), not in commission, captured during dutch raid on Medway 1775 General Assembly of the Crown Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations authorize the charter of two naval vessels "to protect the trade of the colony." Jeremiah O'Brien & crew of the sloop Unity capture HMS Margaretta schooner, Lt. James Moor (mortally wounded), in Machias Bay, Maine. Arguably the first naval battle of the American Revolution. 1813 Boats of HMS Bacchante (38), Cptn. William Hoste, captured 24 vessels at Abruzza.
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i am logging all this info in me brain for future reference, well done - lovely build
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June 11 1800 Boats of Rear Ad. Sir John B. Warrens's squadron, HMS Renown (74) Cptn. Eyles, HMS Fisgard (44), Cptn. T. Byam Martin, HMS Defence (74), Cptn. Lord H. Paulet, and HMS Unicorn (32), Cptn. Wilkinson, cut out gunboat Nochette (2) two armed chasse-maree and eight other vessels at St. Croix within the Penmarks. Twenty other vessels were run on to the rocks. 1808 Boats of HMS Euryalus (36), Cptn. George Heneage Dundas, and HMS Cruizer(18), George Charles M'Kenzie, burnt two large troop transports and captured a gun-vessel (2) off the Naskon.
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June 10 1673 Rene Duguay-Trouin born in St. Malo, France. French privateer and naval officer, he captured 300 merchantmen and 20 warships during his career. 1805 HMS Chiffonne (36), Cptn. Charles Adamand, HMS Falcon (14), Cptn. George Sanders, HMS Clinker (14), Lt. Nisbet Glen, and the Frances hired armed cutter, engaged French gunboats Foudre (10), Cptn. Jacques-Felix-Emmanuel Hemelin, Audacieuse (10), Lt. Dominique Roquebert, and 7 others protecting a convoy off the coast of France. 1809 HMS Amelia (38), Cptn. Frederick Paul rby, and HMS Statira captured French national vessels Mouche (16), Rejouie (8) and a schooner together with 2 luggersLegere and Notre Dame at Santander.
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June 9 1772 HMS Gaspee schooner, Lt. William Dudingston, burned at Namquid Point, Narragansett Bay by American colonists from Providence, Rhode Island. 1795 HMS Mosquito captured a privateer. 1796 HMS Southampton (32), Cptn. James Macnamara, ccut out French corvette Utile(24) from Hyeres Bay 1799 Boats of HMS Success (32), Cptn. Shuldham Peard, cut out Belle Aurore. 1801 HMS Kangaroo (16), George Christopher Pulling, and HMS Speedy (14), Lord Thomas Cochrane, destroyed gunboats and took 3 brigs from under the battery of Oropeso HMS Meleager (32), Cptn. Thomas Bladen Capel, wrecked on the Triangles, Gulf of Mexico. 1808 21 Danish gunboats and 12 mortar shallops, under Cmdr Johan C. Krieger, engages a British escorted convoy in the southern part of the Sound. HMSTurbulent (12) and 11 merchant ships are captured.
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lol you will say that on your next build as well, - just that the bits you are not happy with then - will be better than the bits you are happy with on here - thats life - i quess
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PLEASE HELP I have one question for all you experienced copper platters, When and how do I use / draw a Gore line, I have a reference to it in some of my books but I don't understand the explanation, perhaps I'm being thick, I have completed 5 rows of plates on the bottom of the hull including the false keel and I'm not sure if I need to draw a gore line and if I do how do I lay the plates against it. I intend to lay 3 rows of plates at the waterline. I have checked out the u tube vids and there is no mention of one. I tiled mine the Keith Jullier way, down from the top and up from the keel, in most cases this will result in a line of cut tiles, - i.e. gore/scar, doing it this way, ½ way is hidden under the waist of the build, and not seen Hope that makes sense
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a gore line is a scar line when tiled from top and bottom you will end up with a line of cut tiles - ie scar if done this way it will be hidden under the waiste is the build - and not seen
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in reference to one of today events USS Vincennes (1826) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vincennes_(1826)
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June 8 08 June 1794 HMS Crescent (36), Cptn. James Saumarez, HMS Druid (32), Cptn. Ellison, and HMS Eurydice (24), Cptn. Francis Cole, engaged French squadron off the West coast of Guernsey.. 1795 HMS Kingfisher (18) engaged a French convoy. 1796 HMS Unicorn (32), Cptn. Thomas Williams, and HMS Santa Margarita (36), Cptn. Thomas Byam Martin, captured Tribune (44), Commodore Moulson, and Tamise(42) to the westward of the Scillies. A corvette Legere escaped. First day of 4 day campaign by HMS Arethusa (38), Cptn. Thomas Wolley, with three frigates, two sloops and army units capturing island of St. Vincent. 1813 Boats of HMS Elizabeth (74), Cptn. Leveson Gower, and HMS Eagle (74), Cptn. Charles Rowley, defeated troops at Omago. 1830 Sloop-of-war Vincennes becomes first U.S. warship to circle the globe 1853 Commodore Matthew Perry arrives at Uraga, Japan to begin negotiations for a treaty with Japan
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June 7 1692 Port Royal, Jamaica destroyed by Earthquake and subsequent tsunami. 1777 HMS Fox (28), Cptn. Patrick Fotheringham, was taken by American frigatesHancock (32), Cpt. John Manley, and Boston (30), Cptn. Hector McNeil, off Newfoundland Banks.
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have a good break - see you in couple of weeks
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It's taken me over an hour to write this update, it's all the fault of the RAF, they keep flying over my house in a Spitfire, yesterday it was a Hurricane, how the hell do they expect anybody to get any work done. Mobbsie - it the defense cuts - last year they had two pilots, but have made one redundant since, so it the same pilot
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i was reading through looking for a relevant link and saw the facts below Téméraire clas - 115 of these 74 gun ships Impétueux was a Téméraire class 74-gun ship of the line of the French Navy. She took part in the Glorious First of June in 1794. During the battle, HMS Marlborough became tangled with Impétueux. Badly damaged and on the verge of surrender, Impétueux received a brief reprieve when Mucius appeared through the smoke and collided with both ships.[2] The three entangled ships continued exchanging fire, all suffering heavy casualties with Marlborough and Impétueux losing all three of their masts. This combat continued for several hours. Captain Berkeley of Marlborough had to retire below with serious wounds, and command fell to Lieutenant John Monkton, who signalled for help from the frigates in reserve.[3] Robert Stopford responded in HMS Aquilon, which had the assignment of repeating signals, and towed Marlborough out of the line as Mucius freed herself and made for the regrouped French fleet to the north.Impétueux was in too damaged a state to move at all and sailors from HMS Russell soon seized her.[4] The Royal Navy intended to take into service as HMS Impetueux, but she was destroyed in an accidental fire at Portsmouth on 24 August 1794 and so was never commissioned. During the battle of The Glorious First of June, the Royal Navy had also captured her sister ship America, which it renamed HMS Impetueux in 1795.
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