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  1. Michael It's always a pleasure to find one of you builds and leaf through it. I love seeing you successfully removed and reinstalled the mast. I am also envious to see machining parts. I have so much to learn. Happy new year Jon
  2. Wrap up Bluenose for year end In this post I just want to share a few items as I clean up and get ready to continue at slower pace as I begin a new area. · Here we have remade the foresail and gaff and got them reinstalled. This was a full eight hours due to many issues I spoke of before. · Here she is sort of coming at you. Unfortunately it is easy to see the wrinkled jumbo which will be replaces and up graded. The main is wrinkled because it was furled. Not sure what to do there. They have photos of Bluenose sailing with only the main but never with the main furled. Someday next year we shall replace it or furl it up and add a storm sail · Here is full shot of the new sail and new rigging. It is a medium file size so can blow up to better see details · One of the fun things is I used 1 mm halyards and ran enough to raise using the winch. Here once we raise the sail the coils become huge · Here you so two halyards looking forward from port side. So what’s next A The list to finish is long , I will stretch it out a bit, but here are some items that I shall plod on with and update next year: 1. I have the next three sails under way, jumbo jib and jib topsail. They get chain sheets and things and will be fun to rig. 2. Top sails... 3. Fisherman sail 4. Dory rigging under way: hooks made and ready to rig lines 5. Oil barrels and one more wooden barrel forward. I want to learn what it was for too 6. Remake mainsail and gaff 7. Remake all dories and fit them out. 8. Decide if I am not going to dissemble to move, tighten up and coil all lines. 9. Make flags 10. Make people….currently have stiff railroad figures. I would like to learn to make figures doing things 11. Consider changing out sailing turnbuckles for more realistic look. Currently have that standard issue of getting shrouds to stay tight. 12. Possible...........Make sailing mast and spars. I am drifting away from sailing again B help my friend continue his restoration of his wife’s 1960 ish Bluenose model · Here in the photo you can that she rests on the shop rigging table. We plan to upgrade his deck furniture and add lines like back stays, dories and their rigging etc. we also tell a few stories when he visits. C. next build. I shall start a series of builds of 18th century new England [ + nova scotia] schooners. Again, I want to learn how they sailed. I ‘ll start with some kit bashing then eventually get to plank on frame. Happy holidays Jon
  3. thanks Keith I hope we can all continue. I mean why not? and for me I have a lot more to learn. This year has been just great and I am getting excited about branching out next year. Merry Christmas
  4. Great bench. I bought a scroll saw for last year because my band saw is a big old 10 inch and I want to learn plank on frame. I am thrilled to see I can watch you make frames because I struggle using the saw. The up stroke grabs my wood. I will look to see how you work with delicate wood. Thanks jon
  5. Thanks Keith and Jeff I have come to a resting point I think, as we approach the holiday break. I went to our monthly Guild meeting this week, and many members agreed. These huge models are too consuming, and the product is one that cannot travel or do much but take up too much time and space. It is a wonderful learning process, as we can see the detail so much better; but maybe it's too much. I need to make simple boats large to sail and then smaller scale for all this detail and learning how the sails worked. Yesterday, I just replaced the fore mast for the third time. A few things broke, tiny pieces disappeared and needed remaking, and most lines needed untangling and fixing. It was a full day to get it back to when it was before. And that is nice to be able to do but not practical. I am thinking of slowing a bit on this build and stretching it out, so yes I eventually complete it but in the coming new year I can start new things. I love this model. Today I laid out three new sails, replacement jumbo and the jibs. I am just not going to rush to get them done. 2018 planning I want to build older 18th century schooners like Halifax using Hahn's books and to learn again how they sailed. I bought a Halifax kit to play with first. Then I want to learn plank on frame. If I keep going backward on Bluenose, I just won't get there. I shall continue to plod along here part time. There are new sails to make , I may go back and redo the main. I might furl is again and rig a storm sail and reef the foresail. I have to do the jumbo as the attachment is cringles on the sail, rings on the shroud and continuous lashing. also, I need to shrink the bolt rope and improve the three corner connections. I'll never be satisfied with the existing sails. Last winter I totally failed on dories and I need to do them again too. Then I want to rig them, so perhaps one is being launched. I made the hooks today. More importantly is a the 3/16” [1:64] scale Bluenose that belongs to my friend and is still in the shop on my main table. We just met to review this winter and we agreed to rebuild all his deck furniture and add several lines that are not on the simple kit rigging. So to all happy holiday. I shall post more pictures as I get her cleaned up. Cheers
  6. Re rig sails to fore and main gaffs I have gone around a few times trying to figure out what to model for the two gaffs. This post is my decision making before I do something and move on. The work is focused on the fore gaff that I have rebuilt along with a new sail. Due to such few archive photos though, I would like to better understand both main and fore sails at the same time. I find that Jensen drawings = BN ll, but the archive photos do not always agree. I also believe the racing rig of say 1930 could have been slightly different from the 1940 long time fishing rig that I am favoring and finding documented. In my last post I showed the four corners of the BN ll foresail and some progress. I liked the details and basically used the reinforcing, grommets, strapped rings, reefing points and new roping to remake the sail. Clearly the boom [ foot] is lashed tied and tails pulled through the lines. The three holes bored through the end of the two gaffs seems to have been carried over [ with my loose interpretation of the old photos.] · Here is Nova Scotia BN archive’s best photo of the boom and gaff. This shot and another one clearly shows some key items that I believe reflect ultimate rigging of the fishing Bluenose. I make some cropped views below to rationalize some detail decisions BN II used a bale in the gaff to hold the foresail peak [ recent posting] · Here BN ll lashed the peak to the gaff on the main sail and have bored four holes. First let’s look at a little progress · Here is my new foresail clew and iron mongery. see the attempted moused hook for the boom tackle. · Here is the new tack. note the use of black lines for the hoop ties. I cleaned up the boom cleat and that shall hold the down haul. · Here is the new throat. The shackle is not yet there. I need to figure out lashing connection and holes through the jaws first. · In this photo of the peak you can see I did the BN ll bale just to look at it, but I plan to change it to lashing. You can also see the topsail sheet block attached to the side of the gaff and the white peak halyard blocks with galvanized rings directly on the gaff…there was apparently no bridle on the 1940 version. Second let’s study old photos of the Nova Scotia BN archive · Here in a BN archive cropped shot, one sees two light colored lines running aft of the fore sail peak grommet [ ring]. I suspect they go through the holes in the gaff and thus sort of lash the sail less neatly than on BN ll . There is no bale. Also, there seems to be a fore and aft top ring that must be holding the down haul at the end of the gaff among the coiled line. [ likely the stored down haul in the photo]. You also see the white peak halyard block attached directly to the gaff · In this photo I cropped the best view of the end of the main gaff. It looks quite like the fore and confirms the top sail sheet blocks were not on top as they have been rigged on BN ll. · In this cropped archive photo there is a white block suspended on a leather cap like other fishing schooners. It rides on the starboard side. I believe but do not yet know how but I read somewhere that these leather gloves held the block and could ride over and around when tacking. Anyway, my other schooners have the topsail sheet blocks rigged like this, so I am using this photo to set mine on the starboard side. · Looking forward on the fore gaff and boom we see they are clean, no lazy jacks like BN ll Lashing details on BN ll · Here we already spoke about the boom lashing. This is this BN ll detail with tails tucked that I have copied. On the archive photo above the tails are left loose on the main, and I may do that if I rebuild that sail. One can also see the spiral lashing has a figure 8 knot holding it on top of the starboard jaw. That works for me. · Here in the end of the main gaff we see the knot and seizing detail of the lashing on port side. On the starboard side [ photo above] the lashing goes through a sail grommet before being tied off to port. We also see very nice lashing of the peak from all three holes. · In this cropped photo of the end of the fore gaff we see a similar detail of the end of the line tied off on the starboard side. The last line draped over the end is temporary line while sails are furled holding down the gaff. It came off when sailing. · Here is the main peak under sail. Note the flag is added to the down haul that was slice through the end hole and dropped on both side rails while sailing. · Here is the end of the fore gaff under sail. The down haul is single here. So I may not be right but at least I have had fun trying to figure our how all this stuff works. Now I just need to have the time to complete this step. cheers jon
  7. I am close to the end of sewing the new bolt rope and my crew just showed up outside the shop. In case some of you worry that we eat all of the turkeys for Thanksgiving, let me assure you there are plenty here in Maine
  8. Making replacement foresail mid-point I am part way through the tedious sewing on the bolt rope and looking to a few new steps. This also rests those sore thumb joints a bit, gets more coffee, and brings me back to the hoops. I include here this wonderful image under sail in full size Here is the cropped view showing two hoops. Just like the lazy jacks they used twisted wire. Perhaps the original was line but maybe tarred. Not sure but i think this means we go to black thread; but how to tie it? if line tied is wire twisted. There are no good photos of this detail of the old one. Keith was nice enough above to send the text book. It looks sensible in real size but gives me two knots to finish off. I plan to practice a few since I need to make another batch of rings for my planned sailing mast. The next pictures show the slippery slope I have entered. My rear admiral came along and said she wanted to try to do a better job sewing the seem lines to reduce if not eliminate the puckering. While she was away working, I foolishly raised the other two sails After she came back I was playing around and here is the new foresail if I show it raised……. what to do?.. do I remake everything? Here we are coming at you how can I not do these sails raised????? Here is the sail peak detail. I do not agree with the block being on top, but I like the three holes and bale holding the sail and spliced down haul … here is the temporarily installed foresail peak....The sail is fine, but look at that gaff!!!! The ugly side sheave that works, the end band and eye, the Bluenose ll black bridles [ I just realized Bluenose did not have bridles on the fore gaff, the blocks were strapped…. another oops as I just added them based on jensen drawings and BNll. I decided to remake my fore gaff to bring up the details and to demote this first spar to sailing status. I think now it is inevitable that I must also change the main sail and that means a new main gaff too. Some day I will take steps only forward Cheers
  9. OK I am back looking at this post of yours from last month. I will definitely set up a practice board. i was concerned with the diagram you put on my site because the tails are loose on both sides. I did it differently and had both tails on the same side allowing a simple square not. fun city I think as i figure out what to do here. cheers
  10. I love the rats nest comment on temporary condition of lines. You can say that with a smile because you do a great job cleaning them up on their cleats. The binnacle detail is great too. Turning brass for lights wow ... can't wait to see the next step. Cheers
  11. I just enjoyed another review of this incredible build. Each time I think about building schooners smaller than 1:96 or a split half showing the innards, I hesitate. Doing the interior is awesome and seeing your staging of the decks very instructive. Thanks for sharing Jon
  12. Part one of remaking a new Foresail I am spinning out of control here. I thought it time to post what is happening, as I use this process to help think about what I am doing. It helps so I can decide if I keep going and adding more and more redo’s or to I cry uncle and move on. This scale leaves few excuses not to try to get things to show how they worked. So let’s see how much trouble I am in half way through remaking a sail. First let’s see what we learned about how the sails was rigged. · Here is a detail of both the ironmongery and clew attachment to the fore boom. I must redo everything · Example: …see how the boom tackle is attached to the boom. The block has a hook which is moused to the ring which is held by the bolt through the bands · Here is my attempt to replicate that. Yes another diversion · Here is the detail of peak connection to the gaff. There is much to talk about here… this post is only the sail, but the gaff is in trouble. · Here we see the tack connection and details of the gooseneck. · Four corners make these sails, so here is the throat. Wow much to do here · Finally let’s look and see the reef points. Yes they are diamond points and not the band that goes on the bigger schooners. How am I going to make them? First I made some samples and experimented with different size hollow mini rivets to use as grommets. · I made four corners, and the first one did not go so well. This is my second attempt. I am using thread to lash the grommets and two sizes of grommets. I would need a mini bicycle tire rim shaped ring to be the perfect lashed ring. I have no idea how to do that, so I drew the line, I soldered a small ring and moved on. · Here I am using a punch to rap the back and a small ball peen to hammer back the grommets. I suppose there is a tool to do this job. Maybe next time · Here is the completed clew and foot of the sail for lashing to the boom. OK if you are following you realize I do not have this much detail on the mainsail [ which is already relashed to the boom] or Jumbo. What to do? While thinking about that I decided to improve the bolt rope. You may recall I used the 20 # hemp twine for color but never really liked it because it was too big. · Here I bought more hemp craft line in softer color. This is the 20 # weight and I am not going to use it either · Here is the 10# line also softer color, and I think one can see that it is too small. · Finally..here is the 1mm tan line I have been using for halyards. It really is virtually 1 inch diameter in scale and what I plan to use. More to order... oh boy they love me cheers jon
  13. Dave She is really looking good. Great idea to play with sails. I am now foolishly making my second set of sails. I tried the furling and am now thinking about fully rigged, the lower ones anyway. cheers jon
  14. Keith thanks for your post. I know there are some calculations to do. You can follow the link on my signature to my two former builds that sailed and I discussed what i did. not perfect but they sailed. Boothbay Harbor one design I had two boats. The image below of the Bittersweet shows the bolted on 10 pound keel and extension rudder. The 13inch moment is similar to the Marblehead 50 inch class sailboats that I have. I am sure I could raise bulbs up a few inches i just have too much invested to take that chance. I sail these at the Boothbay harbor Yacht Club......ocean! This image is the Charles Notman. She is roughly the same size and weight of Bluenose. Here a large sailing keel and extension rudder does the trick. Now that I am moving toward a possible sailing venture with Bluenose, I shall make the extension parts. Please note that the white stands I make are similar for each boat. That stand not only allows heeling over for display and working convenience, it allows setting on the dock, adding the temp keel etc. and sailing. Tthe two lead bricks are 5 pound each. FYI confirming the advise of a local schooner expert this model would not head up into the wind and tack. Just like the real ones, the center of influence is the center of the hull [ here it is forward end of the added keel]. The center of effort is somewhere in the foresail. If I took off the jibs she might sail. I have retired her and slowly work away at completing the detail. I know I am adding more and more scope to Bluenose making completing other projects go on and on. Oh well cheers jon
  15. Make the bait barrels I thought it time to stop looking at the rough made barrel blanks rolling around the deck and turn them into racked bait barrels. · Here is the NS archive image of what I am trying to do. There is more detail in the picture in recent posting showing the top lids and some large storage boxes perhaps for loose fishing gear. There is also a steel barrel lashed up against the cabin, and a bucket on the roof. · Here are the blanks. I bought these in a craft shop maybe 10 years ago thinking a day would come where they would be handy. They are bored out on a lathe and if this works I will add to my list a need to make some blanks myself, because I need another barrel [ different use I believe] that goes up by the galley hatch. These blanks are the perfect size to try to copy the photo. · The jig in the photo is to allow gluing cut off dowel slugs with a matching recess this all 6. The cut dowels were about 1/16th smaller than the id of the barrel. They are screwed through the jig and then the barrel set down. I shimmed with 1/16 scrap and the after the first dry out filled the gap with more wood glue. · In this shot I have made up the second rack and precut all the pieces needed to make up the lids. I wanted a dirty, oiling, yucky look ….sort of what an old bait barrel might look like. For some reason I had an old can of ebony stain and it worked great as the under coat. I then did some random touch up with satin black so there is a mixed look. Nowhere near perfect but better I think than just paint. · Here they are on deck. The oil barrel needs trim and I ordered some styrene that might bend around to complete the drum details. i let the red putty show through the pain t a bit as i want a little rust to show. · Here we see the effect on deck. I need now to decide if I want to add the side boxes. I probably shall, but not yet. They are also loose as I am thinking more now about what comes off if we go sailing. Also they would not be on board if we are racing. PS my first attempt to make the small tub barrel was a disaster. I need to make the small tapered and bevels staves. I believe I will need to figure out a jig first, and set up a production line. on at a time is not good. Cheers jon
  16. Prepare foremast to become removable and take it out Well here we go in finding the resolution of what one might do with this a model that is more than 6 feet tall and might also be able to sail. After the trial and error removal, upgrade and replacement of the main mast, let’s see how much better we can get working the foremast. · Let’s undo all the lines and use smaller pieces of masking tape to separate and hold them on proper side to prevent tangles. This include head stays, any future jibs all the lines made to the rail pins. · Here we are with loose lines more carefully taped. The jumbo boom and sail sits on top of the fore gaff and with a little tape is secure enough to move. I we had the jib and jib top sails they would be handled similarly. · being more careful this time, the mast easily comes up and out and then down onto the rigging table. See the small top mast extension did not break the toothpick this time…. Yippee! Now I need to have a large card board box [ tray really] to receive this and careful take to the car if we are going travelling of store while simpler mast and sail is rigged for sailing RC. · Here Bluenose sits with the foremast demasted. I hope we are on a roll now, but I fear it’s more like we're entering another rabbit hole, as I find more things to do. Now we have several items to fix. · First of all, the bridles for the peak halyards need to become black representing the cable material. To do that the sail lashing needed to be removed. · Here we find a big error and shifting resolution. The Jensen drawings and BN ll photos show the fore sail to be clearly 2 feet bigger running out further on the boom and gaff. It works out to be one extra panel. You can see the lighter line on the paper pattern. · Decision made…. I need to remake the sail. I will use the first sail for a possible sailing version on a simple mast and boom. Here the new sail is laid out. · Here the new cut sail is laid out and looks much better partially furled. More to think about as this new sail progresses. · The fragile top mast is easy to straighten out. Here in a detail it is easy to see the improved look of the draped shrouds and stays over the shoulder with only two blocks. Next decision is whether to paint the top ball gold. I am sure it was when new…….did it last? · I needed to put the boot on the mast. I found I needed to sand down the below deck mast to get the wood painted ring to slide up. The gray boot will slide down onto the deck after reinstalling. It seems each time I do something, I find two more things to redo…….oh well Cheers jon
  17. Second part of main boom upgrades In this post, I need to record what I decided to do with the lazy jacks to get a view that replicates the 1940 ish boat photos, but also listens to the folks that tell me the Jensen drawings were accurate except for coast guard enhancements. I believe that there were no lazy jacks in the early races other than a single line that is seen in some of the distant photos. Regardless, I may have gone too far so I have installed the mid point system as it shows on jensen drawings. I have chosen for the moment not to add the inner most lazy jacks but did install the inner boom lift. · Here we have a view of the new lazy jacks and lifts. There are two lines [ lazy jacks] falling to the boom from the mid boom lift. You can see the port side back stay made to the aft position beyond, and the end boom lift line twisted in this photo. I need to figure out how to keep lines from twisting. · In this view the forward lift is clearer. Also you can see an issue for a future fix,the peak halyard bridles are made of rope[ they are tan with black seizing]. I made this in error based on my looking at the old photos months ago. After seeing the real thing I looked again at the old photos and yes, they are clearly cable. This is now a punch list and some how I need to come back on these. · This NS archive photo gives the simple look I need to get. There is center band over the deck house that looks like it is in the same location the forward lift. I chose this to justify installing the forward lift to the blocks under the cross trees. · This image is just to show where we are at this point as I move on. The lashing of the furled is also in the tan hemp colored material. The bait barrels need to come soon and yes the shall. Lazy jack details. · Here we see my first attempt, before going to Lunenburg of the wood fairleads. Reject.. · I looked around the shop for inspiration and found mini clothes pins. Some were broken so available. I cut them down and presto…not perfect at all but much better. I believe from reading more advanced builder's logs that if I had some pear or other good wood, I could file/ carve them down more and they would be even better. I am definitely not there yet. · Here we see the fairlead in place and the two eye spliced lines ready to be lashed through the fairleads · Now to install: the real ones are wire wrapped to hold the line eye splices to the cable boom lifts. So I sewed and tied hitches trying to respect the method. · Below the larger line is eye splices at the bottom about the height of the gaff, then a double smaller line is run through the fairleads under the boom and tied off. This hitching is the adjustment. Ok I am onward to the foremast Cheers jon
  18. Thanks Keith I really liked your use of black construction paper for the photo in your build log. It was really clear. I am making a new foresail and will focus first on clew and head attachment up grades. I shall then relash new sail to spars and reset using your diagram to the hoops. Cheers. Jon
  19. Keith I love the photo of the small triangular"fisherman staysail" instead of the top sail you posted. Looking at the images in your following post it is clear of what you are saying to be a challenge. It would be possible for a clewline to raise the topsail tack up above the Maine head stay, but unrealistic. I would guess it would be better with a continuous halyard (like a fisherman staysail) then drop a raise the topsail when tacking as they did a fisherman sail? I am not saying any of this with authority. I am only an interested student. We are off to eat too much turkey today Thanksgiving. Enjoy the season. Cheers Jon
  20. Kieth Thanks for this diagram. As you will see up coming, I need to replace the foresail. My lacing of the hoops was a little different. I will definitely use this when I put on the new foresail. Regards Jon
  21. what a fun build. The beautiful image in your first photo is one of the reasons I live here in Maine. I follow your process all the way until the magic shows up and you rebuilt is all inside the bottle....just amazes me how you do that. Thank you for sharing. jon
  22. hi Keith the blocks come for the Bluejacket company site. They are a long time modelship company here in Maine and sponsor of NRG. I use them because in the large scale and need to able to sail they work well, as I can do things like relocate back stays, and the lines run through them reasonably. Also for the use of attachment both of strop or becket they have strength. cheers
  23. Upgrade the main boom This step is a bit complicated and I will make at least two postings. I am finding my way through fog a bi,t but that is appropriate for grand bank fishing vessels. The first post is to share the research, show some options and share the first fix I completed. I keep wondering if the information regarding BN ll is really applicable? While there in Lunenburg, the captain confirmed a few changes in rigging from the original, I pointed out to him as coast guard requirements. I believe there are a few more involved with the main boom. So, I share my thought process below with photos: · Here we look up at the main sail and see three systems of boom lifts · Looking aft we see the forward lift then the midpoint lift is banded aft of the main sheet bale and the end lift is at the boom end. · Looking up at the dock side we see all three boom lifts and the lazy jacks as well as the peak halyards. Lots of lines, not seen on BN photos · Here is a detail of the forward lift. I beleive this is new but so far have added it to the model. · Here we see Bluenose sailing from a NS achieve file. There is a mid-point lift near the sheet bale. There is no forward lift and I don’t see the end boom lift. Most schooners had them, the captain told me the original had one. The Eisnor plans do not show any other but what is in this photo… That raises the hard question. I am still struggling with final solution for my model but have several other items we can do. · Here we see the boom tackle being made to a large wood cleat on the boom, not the jaw pin as on four masted schooners and other boats. · Here we see the attachment method that makes good sense for the lazy jacks. Simply sewing will do here. · Here we see a detail of the metal work for both the main sheet bale and mid boom lift. Note here the lift is clearly just aft of the sheet bale. It also highlights the choice made on BN ll to use all bright work on the blocks and blacken all the metal work. · He we see a conflict. This old NS archive photo shows the two lift bales. One next to the man’s hat just has two lines going straight up like a lazy jack. The other over the skipper’s head is clearly the large midpoint lift. · Here is a ns archive photo take in 1940 survey, post fishing. There is no evidence of lazy jacks and the boom lift is back just forward of the bale. Therefore, we see that this band was moved around by different skippers. · This blow up of the ns archive photo just confirms the lift band was not aft of the main sheet. So like my model, the foot ropes come to the sheet bale. My sheet bale needed to be rebuilt. It was too low and used ugly tabs for the foot ropes. I also need to use more real bolts at this scale when they are right. I found the 00-90 bolts perfect for the this. · To build the bale I use 14-gauge electrical wire. It is nicely annealed and takes a 1-72 die easily · Here we are in place with better connections to the foot rope. You can see I have currently placed the boom lift band forward of the main sheet. some more paint to get that galvanized look is next · And here is the cable becket looped blocks taking the mid boom lift as rigged on BN ll. Sure hope I am right but now I have committed to following Jensen drawings except where I clearly know there is a change. All for now Cheers jon
  24. Thanks Keith We celebrated Beaujolais nouveau last night, so I am good for another day. For me it is rebuilding main sheet bale and lazy Jack's. Here is an area where bn and bn ll don't agree. Maybe the new wine will age as I try to solve this one. Cheers
  25. Keith I continue to be inspired by the clean and crisp imagery of your build. Now watching you go through figuring out how the rigging works I love it even more. One of your comments was about tacking the topsail. I have read several different approaches. The 4 masted schooners used clew lines to gather up for top mast furling. It was thus a two step partial raising by clew line and the tack lines p&s transferred to allow tacking across the spring stays, lower gaffs and peak halyards etc. Bluenose has clew lines but the stories tell of a brave crew member staying aloft to pull the sail over and transfer the tack line while racing. If the topsail is raised from the deck . Perhaps having a double tack line would be enough to pull the sail up and let it flow over. Perhaps a lighter traveler line could have been rigged to pull up the tack ( opposite action of the jib down hauls) Anyway I love learning more about how these boats worked. And I love learning from logs like yours Thanks for sharing Jon
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