ofencer29350 Posted October 31, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) i'm glad to introduce you the new monography by ancre : http://ancre.fr/fr/monographies/78-hermione-monographie.html Edited October 31, 2015 by ofencer29350 avsjerome2003, Barbossa, Landlubber Mike and 9 others 12 Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted November 1, 2015 Share #2 Posted November 1, 2015 There is actually 2 books. One is the monograph identified above and a second book on the history on the Hermione. According to the ANCRE website they will be released sometime early 2106. Definitely worth checking out Mike Draper mtaylor, Bobstrake and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 1, 2015 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2015 I find myself scaring myself when I look at that... tempting... very, very tempting. And an excellent discount for pre-ordering adds to that. Bobstrake, Canute and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted November 2, 2015 Share #4 Posted November 2, 2015 Mark: I couldn't resist.. especially watching the adventures of the Hermione sailing across the atlantic this summer on facebook. Mike Draper Bobstrake, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 2, 2015 Share #5 Posted November 2, 2015 Mike, I'm probably not going to resist.... it's the building part. I have more on shelf than I could ever build.. but this one.. might be the most fun. I'm going to follow my own advice here.... "Give into temptation. It may only come this way once." :P druxey, Bobstrake, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted November 2, 2015 Share #6 Posted November 2, 2015 Mark: I feel the same way about taking on a project like that but I always say.. "cant build her without good plans" so Im just increasing the chances of me building her by buying the plans! :-) Mike Draper druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted November 2, 2015 Share #7 Posted November 2, 2015 From Wikipedia: "La Hermione was built in eleven months at Rochefort, by the shipwright Henri Chevillard as a light (French: légère) frigate, fast and maneuverable. Between May and December 1779 she underwent successful sea trials in the Gulf of Gascony under the command of Lieutenant de Latouche. General La Fayette embarked at Rochefort on 11 March 1780 and arrived in Boston on 28 April carrying the secret news that he had secured French reinforcements (5,500 men and 5 frigates) for George Washington. After the dramatic failure of the Penobscot Expedition, a large military expedition to dislodge the British from their new stronghold at the confluence of the Bagaduce and the Penobscot River on the east bank of Penobscot Bay in Maine (an area later known as Castine), the revolutionary council of Massachusetts asked Latouche if he would be willing to sail to Penobscot Bay for a quick military intelligence-gathering cruise, checking on the strength of the British garrison at Fort George. The Hermione then made the week-long voyage in mid-May, after which the frigate sailed to Rhode Island.[2] Next, she got underway again on 2 June and suffered serious damage in the fierce but indecisive Action of 7 June 1780 against the 32-gun HMS Iris, under James Hawker. Hermione received the American Congress on board in May 1781. She fought several times in company with the Astrée, commanded by Lapérouse, especially at the Naval battle of Louisbourg on 21 July 1781. After the end of the American Revolutionary War, Hermione returned to France in February 1782. She then formed part of a squadron sent to India to help Suffren against the British. However peace was declared and the ship returned to Rochefort in April 1784." Interestingly, she fought HMS Iris of 32-guns, which had been earlier taken from the Continental Navy, and was formerly the US frigate Hancock. mtaylor, Kusawa2000, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted November 2, 2015 Share #8 Posted November 2, 2015 Oh, Faith, Begorrah, and all the Saints in Heaven; I am sooo all over this. Ordered it. Herminoe was designed by Pierre-Henri Chevillard and constructed under the supervision of his cousin Jean-Denis Chevillard, who became Ingénieur-Constructeur en Chef at the Rochefort Dockyard a few years later in 1781. They did the Charmante 32 and Concorde 32 Classes of frigates, as well as several 74s. The Chevillards are rather neglected, but their contributions to French ship design and shipbuilding techniques, while incremental, are as innovative and interesting as those of Guignace, Coulomb, Duhamel, Forfait and Sané (in my humble opinion). This was the time of great change and evolution from early 18th century practice. Many of the new features were incorporated into the Revolutionary and Empire period ships. This was an exciting time ! Mike, Mark, if you are interested in French period ships (frigates mostly) this is a “must have” book. Imagine your historical bookshelf with empty periods. I am so glad that Editions Ancre have gone beyond Mr Boudriot’s death. Jean-Claude Lemineur is a worthy sucessor. I love his take on accuracy vs practicality. A man after my own heart. This is going to be a serious build monograph. Just saying. John mtaylor, Kusawa2000, Bobstrake and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 2, 2015 Share #9 Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I gave in... it's ordered. Both of them. I'm still thinking ahead to the next project and was thinking something British (HMS Roebuck) or US (Raleigh) as I'm fond of ships that haven't been modeled much. BTW, this is a good price break by ordering early. Edited November 2, 2015 by mtaylor Canute, Kusawa2000 and Bobstrake 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted November 2, 2015 Share #10 Posted November 2, 2015 Mark, I suspect that this ship will be modeled much. Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 2, 2015 Share #11 Posted November 2, 2015 I do too... but.... sometimes you gotta' go with what is inside you. uss frolick and Canute 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted November 3, 2015 Share #12 Posted November 3, 2015 John: Like you I am glad to see ANCRE carrying on the tradition of amazing sets of monographs. I have the Le Belle Poule monograph so with ordering this one I will be really torn when I make that plunge and actually build a model using the detailed plans Mike Draper Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 3, 2015 Share #13 Posted November 3, 2015 A very tempting deal. I am a sucker for a good book. But I am not able to build it in the place I am in. Besides I have enough on my plate already. How about a review of them when you get them. And I think you will make a fantastic model of her. David B Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted November 3, 2015 Share #14 Posted November 3, 2015 John: Like you I am glad to see ANCRE carrying on the tradition of amazing sets of monographs. I have the Le Belle Poule monograph so with ordering this one I will be really torn when I make that plunge and actually build a model using the detailed plans Mike Draper Oh, woof. I got a preview from my French friends and Jean-Claude Lemineur's plans and drawings are absolutely first rate. Yes, I am doing plans for an 1810 Sane frigate, but I need to work with some wood so that the plans make sense. L'Hermione is at the cusp and very clearly resembles the Revolutionary designs; more so than Le Belle Poule (sorry). I've looked at the plans and drawings, and think they will work wonders for my eventual project. Once I get the volume, I will be opening a Build Log and seriously disturbing my dog Beaudy's calm with whining saws and sprays of sawdust. John Canute, Kusawa2000 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 3, 2015 Share #15 Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Hello. Ancre is planning to launch its new monograph about L'Hermione, a frigate of the Independece War of America, in three different languages, including 34 plates at scale 1/48. More information here: http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/78-hermione-monographie-9782903179861.html Best regards, Jose Edited: I'm sorry, I've just realized there was duplicated this topic. Thanks for moving it. Edited November 3, 2015 by jose_b Bobstrake and mtaylor 2 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 3, 2015 Share #16 Posted November 3, 2015 I couldn't resist and it's ordered. Now, wait until January. mtaylor 1 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshirt Posted November 3, 2015 Share #17 Posted November 3, 2015 Good lord, i barely manage to scrape together some advances with my current project (yay, i finaly managed to cut a halfway decent scarfjoint ) and now ANCRE wants me to buy such a wonderful (and even decently priced) monograph /o\. But no, i shall remain strong. For now. dgbot, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 4, 2015 Share #18 Posted November 4, 2015 Down boy Down you must have some self control. David B mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share #19 Posted November 8, 2015 rebuilt this ship is taking part of the great history between the france and the youg américa 'independency! a good present for christmas! my personnal financial ministary would make me happy???? Canute 1 Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 10, 2015 Share #20 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Hello. Some interesting links: http://exposvirtuelles.charente-maritime.fr/fr/expositions/lhermione-fregate-de-la-liberte#les-origines-historiques http://exposvirtuelles.charente-maritime.fr/fr/expositions/lhermione-fregate-de-la-liberte#les-caracteristiques-de-la-fregate Cheers. Edited November 10, 2015 by jose_b mtaylor, Canute, Mike Y and 1 other 4 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 10, 2015 Share #21 Posted November 10, 2015 You can see different pictures clicking on each of these three images. Then, press next botton to see more images inside. dgbot, Canute, Bobstrake and 1 other 4 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted November 26, 2015 Share #22 Posted November 26, 2015 Please Ancre, make the next Frigate monograph a 24-pounder ship like La Forte/Eqyptienne, La Resistance/Vengeance, L'Immortalite, etc. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachy Posted November 26, 2015 Share #23 Posted November 26, 2015 As far as I know, Mr. Delacroix is currently working on a monograph about L'Eqyptiènne. This is going to be a must-buy mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 26, 2015 Share #24 Posted November 26, 2015 The only problem is I do not read French. When I hear Boudroit with Ancre then I look. David B Canute 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 27, 2015 Share #25 Posted November 27, 2015 David, All but one of Mr. Delacroix's monographs are available in English. Canute and dgbot 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshirt Posted November 27, 2015 Share #26 Posted November 27, 2015 David, All but one of Mr. Delacroix's monographs are available in English. Are you certain about this? On Delacroix's website the ordering details of most of his monographs can be read in several languages but the monographs themselfs are mostly available in french (or italian...or spanish). For example there seems to be no english translation for Amarante, Diligente, Roquefort, Fleur de Lis and Aurore. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 27, 2015 Share #27 Posted November 27, 2015 Hi David. You can also have a look at Ancre website: http://ancre.fr/en/ You can find monographs in English here: http://ancre.fr/en/13-monographies-en Bobstrake, Canute and dgbot 3 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 27, 2015 Share #28 Posted November 27, 2015 Are you certain about this? On Delacroix's website the ordering details of most of his monographs can be read in several languages but the monographs themselfs are mostly available in french (or italian...or spanish). For example there seems to be no english translation for Amarante, Diligente, Roquefort, Fleur de Lis and Aurore. I looked at the list for descriptions and then a only a couple for actual ordering.. not the whole site. Luck of the draw, the ones I looked at had translations available. My bad. I'll go sit the corner for now. Canute and uss frolick 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted November 28, 2015 Share #29 Posted November 28, 2015 Bad Mark. No cookie. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_b Posted November 28, 2015 Share #30 Posted November 28, 2015 Hello again. I've just received an email from Ancre about L'Hermione also available at 1/36 scale (hull: 134 cms.). This is the text: "Prix / Price: 105 euro 32 Plans HERMIONE 1/36e scale. These plans are for the buyer monograhies of Hermione who want to make a model in 1/36 e scale. 32 plans because 2 plates 33 and 34 are not required to be in duplicate with those of monograhies . ( Running rigging and Hermione under sail). Plans Weight: 2.5 kg. (Limited Edition)." Canute, dgbot, avsjerome2003 and 1 other 4 Quote Building Le François: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9952-le-fran%C3%A7ois-by-jose-scale-1-48-1683/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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