leginseel Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share #91 Posted March 5, 2018 Hi Everyone, not posted for a little while as I've been busy on the masts, yards and spars. Didn't post while I was doing them as I thought it would be better to post the whole lot, so here goes This shows all three masts with their respective yards. Fore Mast Yards Main Mast Yards Mizzen Yards Bowsprit Yard and Jib I will now start on the standing rigging and I am still pondering whether to attach the sails or not. mtbediz, Srodbro, Erik H and 5 others 8 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappto Posted March 5, 2018 Share #92 Posted March 5, 2018 Very nice progress. You are doing very clean rigging. Did i noticed started ratlines on the masts? You started before placing on the ship? leginseel 1 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share #93 Posted March 6, 2018 Hi Zappto, As with all first time builders I'm in uncharted territory but I'm thinking that I will do as much of the standing rigging and ratlines that I can while the masts are off the ship which will allow me a little more room to work. Thank you for your kind comment. zappto 1 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share #94 Posted March 8, 2018 First attempt at the shrouds and crowsfoot for the Mizzen Mast. I had a bit of a nightmare with the shrouds looping over the top of the mast as there doesn't appear to be any means shown of holding them firm - just a loop. This is presenting problems with tensioning the deadeyes so until I can work out a way to hold it in place I'm leaving the deadeyes loose. Also with the shrouds there are 3 and everything I've read about them shows them in pairs. Have any of you guys got any useful tips on this? On this one I've seized the three strands together but it looks a bit clunky! mtbediz, zappto, Srodbro and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share #95 Posted March 17, 2018 Hi Guys I've just re read my post above and realize that I've mentioned the shroud loops over the Mizzen Mast and didn't post a photo, so here goes You see what I mean, the loop is awful and those blocks are equally embarrassing so I changed both You'll see here the difference. I left the final seizing until it's placed in position. These blocks are much neater. I then re looked at the deadeye rigging, see the photos in the previous post. I wasn't happy with them so I re did them and after three attempts got the following result I know that the eyes aren't in alignment and the final tying off leaves much to be improved upon, but I'm happier with the result than before and I've learnt so much in the process, which is what this is all about in my book. Vinnie, Fernando E, CDW and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted March 17, 2018 Share #96 Posted March 17, 2018 Nice job on the rigging legineel. Your Bounty is really starting to come together nicely😁...how much work was involved in your yards? Do they come mostly pre milled or do you have to sand them down from scratch? leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share #97 Posted March 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Vinnie said: Nice job on the rigging legineel. Your Bounty is really starting to come together nicely😁...how much work was involved in your yards? Do they come mostly pre milled or do you have to sand them down from scratch? Thank you for your kind comment. The yards took a bit of time but I cut all the pieces and did each step as a production line. I'm lucky to have a small lathe which meant that the tapering of the yards from the provided dowels was relatively easy. The actual rigging and knot tying when you've big sausage fingers like mine is pretty tricky but rewarding. Srodbro, Vinnie and mtbediz 3 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrLiN Posted March 18, 2018 Share #98 Posted March 18, 2018 Good work on the masts and spars. Bold move fitting shrouds and ratlines off the ship and not in-situ. Things are looking good. leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share #99 Posted March 19, 2018 22 hours ago, OrLiN said: Good work on the masts and spars. Bold move fitting shrouds and ratlines off the ship and not in-situ. Things are looking good. Thanks for the comment OrLiN but I thought that trying to do as much of the rigging off the ship as possible was normal practice. Either way it seems much easier at the moment but perhaps I'll come up against a big problem later - we'll see. Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrLiN Posted March 19, 2018 Share #100 Posted March 19, 2018 Judging by the rest of your build I am sure that the rigging will turn out OK. I have tried both methods of rigging and for my poorer skills I find it easier to insert the lower masts, and bowsprit, fit the fore and aft standing rigging then the lower shrouds and ratlines. I then fit the upper masts and rig as I go. The yards get fitted where I can. The only problem you may have is tensioning everything and from what I can see you should not have a problem. There is no right or wrong way. Keep building, Orlin leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmwilson1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share #101 Posted March 19, 2018 Leginseel, I am also building the HMS Bounty (Constructo 1:50). I am at the rigging stage. I built out each masts by sections (Lower, top and topgallant) which included the complete construction and placement of the Mast Top and I have installed each mast. I have just completed tying off the shrouds/deadeyes to the deadeyes on each channel but I have not tied the rat lines yet nor have I done anything to the top or topgallant shrouds but plan on doing so as my next step. I have ran a few of the standing lines but I stopped to review my way ahead with the rest of the standing lines and how the running lines connect. Each time I look at these drawings, I get more confused. Attempting to gather all the rigging information from the drawings. Constructor advised they provided step-by-step drawings (never have found step 1 or any other step) and all you have to do is follow them from beginning to end. Well I find that is easier to write but most difficult to follow. Once I get a better handle on what goes where and connects to what, I will restart my rigging… Vic leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share #102 Posted March 20, 2018 10 hours ago, vmwilson1 said: Leginseel, I am also building the HMS Bounty (Constructo 1:50). I am at the rigging stage. I built out each masts by sections (Lower, top and topgallant) which included the complete construction and placement of the Mast Top and I have installed each mast. I have just completed tying off the shrouds/deadeyes to the deadeyes on each channel but I have not tied the rat lines yet nor have I done anything to the top or topgallant shrouds but plan on doing so as my next step. I have ran a few of the standing lines but I stopped to review my way ahead with the rest of the standing lines and how the running lines connect. Each time I look at these drawings, I get more confused. Attempting to gather all the rigging information from the drawings. Constructor advised they provided step-by-step drawings (never have found step 1 or any other step) and all you have to do is follow them from beginning to end. Well I find that is easier to write but most difficult to follow. Once I get a better handle on what goes where and connects to what, I will restart my rigging… Vic Hi Vic, thanks for the comments and I've tried to find your log but can't find it for some reason. I'm with you totally over the Constructo rigging instructions as they are non existent and for them to say just follow the drawing is a complete cop out. Thank goodness for sites like this and YouTube. Hope all goes well with your build and I look forward to viewing your log. OrLiN, Fernando E and Zapto 3 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share #103 Posted April 1, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 5:47 PM, OrLiN said: The only problem you may have is tensioning everything and from what I can see you should OMG you were right OrLiN !! The top shrouds presented me with the biggest headache but I've got round it I think with a little bit of cheating (apologies to the purists). I decided to pin the shrouds in the holes with brass pins, wrap them with CA underneath and the cut them off. Seems to have worked thus far, here are the photos - I'll blacken off the pin tops when they are all done. I've progressed with the main mast shrouds and deadeyes and the air around here has been decidedly 'blue' I can tell you. However, I've learnt such a lot and as they say next time I hope they will look better - I took this photo as it looked the best then realised the third one from the left was wrongly tied up - Doh!! It's now been corrected. When I look at these close-ups I just want to tear it down and start again, but I'm taking the pragmatic view that I can only get better and hopefully I'll look on this with a smile in a few years time. Thank you for all the likes and comments OrLiN, Fernando E, mtbediz and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrLiN Posted April 2, 2018 Share #104 Posted April 2, 2018 Good work on the rigging mate. Always more than one way to skin a cat. I have been doing this for more than thirty years and there are still times when I want to bin 12 to 15 months work because something has turned out not to the standard I want and, it's always on the rigging. Keep at it, learn as you go. I still learn something new every day. For a first wooden kit this is turning out well. Good luck with the rest of it. leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted April 3, 2018 Share #105 Posted April 3, 2018 Good job on the rigging leginseel! She’s looking close to sea worthy😁...not good to hear your having problems with vague cop out instructions though. I’ve got several full size charts and plans that show the rigging in some detail with my mamoli kit. Since I have nothing to compare to, I don’t know if my instructions are considered good or not...I haven’t looked ahead enough to know whether I’ll have similar problems with step by step instructions. seeing the problems and headaches your encountering makes me realize that I need to start doing my research on techniques and tools 😐...I barely know a thing about rigging OrLiN and leginseel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted April 12, 2018 Share #106 Posted April 12, 2018 Buetifull work Nigel I still check in from time to time and your progress is fantastic leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share #107 Posted April 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Steve 12345 said: Buetifull work Nigel I still check in from time to time and your progress is fantastic Thanks Steve, good to hear from you. Progress is slow but I'm getting there. Doing ratlines at the moment and have already started again twice!! I keep telling myself I'm learning, albeit the hard way. Vinnie and OrLiN 2 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted April 18, 2018 Share #108 Posted April 18, 2018 Hi Nigel ratlines are a strange beast your either in the mood for them or not ,personally I enjoy them you will get a feel for them sometimes there frustrating other times they work ,glad your still enjoying your build it's looking superb leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share #109 Posted June 16, 2018 Apologies to those of you that follow my progress but I'm having a break at the moment. Having tried to do my ratlines in 30+degrees with sweat running down my face and not really enjoying it, I've decided to wait until the weather cools down. Have a great summer to you all. Fernando E and OrLiN 2 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando E Posted June 16, 2018 Share #110 Posted June 16, 2018 Enjoy the summer Quote Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale Previous Builds - S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30 Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share #111 Posted February 1, 2019 Hi Guys, that was a long break and I've returned refreshed. I've managed to complete all the ratlines and most of the standing rigging but I've been sidetracked by building WW2 dioramas which I'm greatly enjoying. So I have two benches working at the same time . One with the Bounty and the other dioramas. Anyway here is where I'm at at the moment. I'm clearly out of practice at inserting photos and they are in the wrong order, but I'm sure that you get the picture. mtbediz and Fernando E 2 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmwilson1 Posted February 2, 2019 Share #112 Posted February 2, 2019 Great to see you back at your work bench. I am at the last stage of my Bounty. I'll attempt to send a picture in a few days... Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando E Posted February 2, 2019 Share #113 Posted February 2, 2019 Welcome back to the shipyard! Glad to see some more progress on the build which is looking really nice. If you get a chance give us a photo of your WW2 diorama....sounds interesting. Cheers.............Fernando Quote Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale Previous Builds - S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30 Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmwilson1 Posted March 27, 2019 Share #114 Posted March 27, 2019 It took a lot of time and effort but my first build is completed. Looking forward to your completed build. I've got the bug so now that the Bounty is completed, I need to get my hands into another build. Looks like I am going to tackle the San Ildefonso. Sea Hoss, leginseel, Gregory and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share #115 Posted April 18, 2019 Hi guys I had a bit of a nightmare as I've had to spend so much time looking after my wife and travelling back and forward to various hospitals so I haven't been posting in my log as I should but I have finally completed my Bounty. Here are my final photos Please forgive the lack of detailed progress pictures. All I have to do now is make a base and a glass or perspex cover. Thank you all for following my build, i've thoroughly enjoyed doing it over the past two and half years. I have to say that the encouragement and advice gained from this site has been invaluable, thank you. GrandpaPhil, mtbediz, Sea Hoss and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warnerade Posted April 18, 2019 Share #116 Posted April 18, 2019 This is a fantastic piece, and definitely is now on my “todo” list, sorry to hear about the wife. leginseel 1 Quote Instagram: fun_with_model_ships Current build King of the Mississippi Princess Royal Ship in a bottle Past builds Golden yacht in a bottle by Amati Union Brigantine by Constructo San Francisco II by Artesania Latina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginseel Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share #117 Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Warnerade said: This is a fantastic piece, and definitely is now on my “todo” list, sorry to hear about the wife. Thank you you're very kind. Quote Cheers Nigel Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale 1:64, started September 2021 Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021 HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmwilson1 Posted April 18, 2019 Share #118 Posted April 18, 2019 Your Bounty looks Great! Wonderful job and looking forward to your next build. Sorry to hear about your wife. I hope all is ok... Vic leginseel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hoss Posted April 18, 2019 Share #119 Posted April 18, 2019 Looks great Nigel...hope all goes well for you. leginseel 1 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando E Posted April 19, 2019 Share #120 Posted April 19, 2019 Hi Nigel Looks incredible and well done on the build. Many thanks also for sharing your work with us. If you get a chance at some future date please post a photo of her on the base and in the case. In the meantime hope all goes well with you and your wife. Cheers........Fernando leginseel 1 Quote Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale Previous Builds - S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30 Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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