Sultana 1767 by moreplovac - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1/64 - Colonial Schooner

[moreplovac]

18 minutes ago, lmagna said:

Nice work on the boat. My old kit, (The old yellow box style) didn't come with a ships boat. It looks from your work that at least this boat is build able. Not like the kits that MS sells separately. 

 

Thanks Lou.

Yes it is buildable, i think it can be build from scratch as well but my worries were related how to get some pictures or plans to build one from scratch..

 

This one might turn out well..

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

Finished up head rail area, sanded, cleaned and painted in flat black. Next will do protective varnish layer...

I am actually very glad that this part was completed; the small scale of this ship part made it somehow difficult to get it right (well there is still room for improvement) and decent amount of wood filler was used to cover some imperfections during building process.

 

After this, work on ship boat continued with carving inside of the boat using different carving knives and a round file positioning it in such a way that top of the file was facing down, inside of the boat and with left-right movement was able to file most of interior o the boat. I had to apply a bit of wood filler which will be sanded to the final shape.

 

The layers are very tiny and not much wood available for carving and sanding. Sanded outside of the hull and also applied some wood filler for final sanding...

 

 

 

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

A bit of a work done on ship boat; sanded inside and outside. I did not like inside part; too much wood filler was visible so i decided to run a layer of planking on the inside. Not sure if this is historically correct but at the end will look much better than with filler. Planks i used are included in the kit and most likely they were meant for deck planking.

I cut proper length and the width was 5 planks. Dropped into water bath for few minutes and dried with towel. Still wet i glued it to boat interior. Then i cut excess that was raising above the boat.

 

The frames were cut and glued along side of the boat.

 

 

Finished it for today and could not resist not to test it on the ship...

 

The light was very bright and color is off; no white color inside..

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

Continue with boat work.

 

Added floor bottom made out of .5mm planks. Was very difficult to make them symmetric on both sides of imaginary middle line... 5 boards were cut and sanded to the correct size ans shape, small space between planks were left as well.

 

Then a added a raiser that is glued across the frames.

 

The seats are added next and this part of building process was kind of interesting. First i made all seats a bit oversized...

 

 

So not being able to find correct size, i ended up with some older way of doing stuff.

 

First i turned the boat upside down and traced the shape into piece of transparent paper. Then accommodating dimensions of boat interior since seat will be mounted on raiser, i draw another two lines representing position of the raiser. After that i marked all sits and cut them from the paper.

 

The seats in stern area were glued to the transparent paper. The idea was to glue them all to the paper and cut all in one piece and glue to the boat. This way i don't have to deal with 4 small pieces separately. The final trimming was done before mounting.

 

 

So the end result is like this..

 

And a bit of sanding with different sand paper sizes..

 

 

.. and have it ready for painting in white. For this i will try to mimic Chuck's color schema...

 

It would probably take few layers of tinned white Tamiya acrylic color...

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

Another layer of white paint applied to the ship boat; small boat that takes me more time to clean the brush than to run a layer of paint 🙂

 

Waiting for paint to dry i decided to continue following Chuck' practicum by building a channels (and moldings) for deadeyes.

 

First i marked channels with numbers on the spare copy of plan. BTW i usually make few extra copies of plan so i can cut, trace, leave a paint mark on it without damaging the original plan. Original plan is actually on the wall in whole size...

 

The channels will be made out of 5mm x 1.5mm basswood, shaped to follow the ship shape. On the outer side of each channel i will mount a beaded molding so total size of both pieces should be kept in mind - not to extend the size that is on the plan.

 

Once channels are cut in size and measured against ship, using a AL scraper, i cut small molding profile on each end of channels. This will match the shape of the molding once glued to the channel.

 

Beaded molding is scraped from basswood, same width as channels, in one long piece that was cut to the size of each individual channel.

 

I carved a little notches on the outside edge of each channel; these notches will be used to hold four deadeyes. The correct size/depth of notches was accomplished by small needle file that is square in shape. Next task will be to paint channels in black and glue to the ship..

 

New AL scraper in use and square needle file used for notches.

All  four channels and moldings ready for painting..

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

Work on channels continued today. It might be a bit of an overkill but i have decided to put a two small nails in the back of the channels; this should provide an extra strength to keep channels on the ship, safely mounted.

 

Not sure if this is needed but these small items can be broken very easily and then it will be too late. So i marked a hole with a small needle, then with 0.6 bits drilled two pilot holes.

 

I used sewing pin for a dowel, inserted in one hole, cut to appr 2mm length, inserted to another hole and cut to the length. Then i lean it on the ship allowing pin to leave a mark on the ship planking. Then using the same drill bit size, i drilled a hole in the plank. Run a layer of a glue and mount channels.... Since i marked them all with numbers (1-4) and black color, for some reason covered the pencil mark 😁, i let them dry on correct numbers...

 

The final front molding will be installed after deadeyes are installed..

 

Then i started to work on poop rails.

First, i made a cap for a rail, out of a basswood, 0.6mm thick. The shape was traced from the top of the bulwark. The edges were sanded with sandpaper to make them rounded.

 

After completing the cap for the rail, i started building the rail stanchions. 2mm x 2mm basswood was used. I measured all 7 stanchions for each side, from the plan. They are different in size, getting shorter towards the stern and they do have a slight taper on them.

These stanchions are delicate pieces and some reinforcement has to be in place.. Back to trusty sewing pins...

 

... which will be placed to the bottom of each stanchion. Pilot hole squeezed in with a needle and hole drilled with a 0.6mm bit...

 

 

Stanchion positions were traced from the plan to a piece of transparent paper and a mark was made on bulwarks with a small pin. The pilot hole was drilled for stanchion dowels (or pins)..

 

After drilling stanchions are mounted, from the mid ship towards the stern making sure they stay straight on bulwark. I did a test run first to make sure all of these will be sitting correctly; after that i glue stanchions permanently..

 

Both sides completed...

Then i put a rail on them; some sanding is needed to have cap rail sitting flash on stanchions. I was contemplating using pins for rails as well but decided to follow Chuck's suggestion that super glue will be enough to keep rails to the stanchions..

 

After that i glued channels on the ship as well..

All done...

Next is a layer of black color...

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2018 by moreplovac

[lmagna]

WOW

 

She is really coming together and starting to show the results of the constant attention to detail you have been using throughout the build. No one would suspect her origins as a simple semi formed block of wood anymore.

[moreplovac]

5 hours ago, lmagna said:

WOW

 

She is really coming together and starting to show the results of the constant attention to detail you have been using throughout the build. No one would suspect her origins as a simple semi formed block of wood anymore.

 

Thanks Lou, appreciated. I must admit that following Chuck's practicum really did make a difference; just going by the kit plan it would be fairy difficult to achieve acceptable results.

 

Thanks for following..

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

[lmagna]

3 hours ago, moreplovac said:

Thanks for following..

Truly is my pleasure.

[moreplovac]

 

Another layer of white color applied to ship boat and a layer of black color applied to poop rails. The layer of varnish have to be added to the recently painted parts including poop rails..

 

This little ship becomes to look very interesting i must admit...

 

Next, the deadeyes are on the building menu, swivel guns stocks along the quarter deck rail and quarter badges... The badges will be very interesting; have not done any parts like this so have not decided to go either with wood or with sculpey..

 

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2018 by moreplovac

[moreplovac]

Swivel guns stocks were my small project for today. Well small project, 8 of then for 2 hrs...

 

Made from 3.5mm x 3.5mm basswood, milled on my mini table saw. They have made in the same way as two stocks at the bow, except they were longer. Unfortunately i made 8 of them but i need two more so tomorrow will continue building them and mounting to the ship.

 

The length of the stocks were taken from the plan, cut to size, shaped, two outside edges were carved a bit to give more details. To simulating a iron band strip, i used electric tape cut to the size and wrapped around the top of stocks. I used tiny drip of a glue to fasten the tape to the stocks.

The small hole was drilled on the top that will be accepting swivel guns.

 

To mount them to the ship i have to decide either to notch the molding or stocks so they can fit on the ship...

 

Cut to shape and two outside edge slightly carved for more details..

 

Small hole was drilled on each one and filled with wood filer to simulate wooden pins...

 

Iron band simulated....

 

And short bath in stain...

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

Swivel gun stock installation have been completed. I made a small notch on the stocks rather than cutting the molding so the stocks can fit as close as possible to the ship hull.

 

Glue them into position. The last two stocks, closest to the stern will be done after i complete the quarter badges..

 

 

 

 

 

 

and a testing...

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

I started to work on deadeyes. The kit supplied one are 2.7mm in diameter. At first glance they shows a bit small and out of the scale for this model. In Chuck's practicum i did not find place where size of deadeyes is mentioned or i was tired and missed it completely.

The work on deadeyes was similar to what Chuck's was suggesting... with some additions. I measured the length of the whole deadeye assembly and mark it on the piece of wood (lets call it a board). Then two nails were pushed into board: one to hold a deadeye and another to hold the  loop that will be nailed to the ship.. The 0.32mm wire was squeezed around the nail and around the deadeye forming the completed assembly.. Then i use a small amount of soldering paste and heat it to fill the gap between two wires...

 

The intention is to paint the whole deadeye assembly in black. Then i decided to test it on the ship to see actually is it visually out of scale or just my eyes playing games with me...

 

Well for me, it does appear to be a bit out of scale... Then i made one home build deadeye just for testing in 3mm and 4mm size.. They looked a bit more appealing to the scale... My skills to build home-made deadeyes are not quite at acceptable level so i made purchase of few deadeyes from Chuck' web site... They are coming.... 3mm and 4mm. Will see which one fits better...

 

While waiting for deadeyes, i started to work on quarter badges. Following Chuck' practicum i tried to make one out of sculpey and must say was not quite successful. They were looking more like a squeezed piece of chew gum spit on the sidewalk then actual usable badges... They are tiny, very tiny... So, i decided to use the ones that arrived with kit.

Clean them up a bit and cover with Tamiya earth color paint in attempt to simulate a wood.

After drying, the excess paint was removed and they appeared to be ready for mounting..

The windows were simulated with a tiny piece of wood and tracing paper colored in black..

 

Then badges were glued to the "window" and the whole assembly was glued to the ship..

 

 

Now when i looking this picture i need to fix that crooked window...

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

A bit of work was done on ship boat; yesterday i painted a molding in black that will be mounted on the boat. The molding was already shaped (few minutes in water and twisted around boat, secured with a rubber band).

 

The molding was then glued to the boat. There are few touch ups required but not a big deal.

 

Inside of the boat was covered with golden oak stain, the same as rest of the ship.

Few other items, rudder, tow rope, a pair of oars will be added to complete the boat... To come...

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

 

Finished up installing two remaining gunstocks...

Then worked a bit on a boat... decided to make a new rudder since i need to add gudgeons and pintles replacing the rudder that was in the kit.

Traced the kit' rudder, extended a height a bit and cut from a spare piece of boxwood. The piece was a bit ticker than needed so some sanding was required.

The rudder was done, now fun with gudgeons... Tomorrow... Still had some time, and started to work on boat oars...

Sanding, filing, shaping...

Tomorrow, more work if time permits...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

The first set of oars were not quite ended up nicely so i decided to dump them and start again...

From the same piece of wood the boat was laser cut, i marked and cut the oars..

 

Quick scale check on boat...

 

... sanding with sand paper since file will be to dangerous for this type of wood, and snap..... oar snapped under just tiny pressure.

 

Oh well, two more time oars were snapped so for a pair of oars i made 5 in total; 3 broken and 2 good one....

 

 

Oars were dipped into golden oak stain for few seconds and wiped with paper towel.

 

The work on gudgeons and pintles started. For this such a tiny parts i decided to simulate them from cardboard painted in black and two small pieces of wire..

 

The rudder was painted in white and paint is still drying so tomorrow will finish it up..

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

[lmagna]

Sorry you had to make so many to get so few. But what you ended up with is really nice.

Edited October 13, 2018 by lmagna

[moreplovac]

6 hours ago, lmagna said:

Sorry you had to make so many to get so few. But what you ended up with is really nice.

 

thanks Lou..

 

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

The work on the ship continued; small touch ups on the boat paint was done.

 

I made a small rudder with pintles to be placed in boat, the tiller for a rudder was made out of wood and mounted on the rudder. The tiller was painted in white. Was contemplating about color but since i had to put a bit of putty on it i decided to go with a white color.

 

The tow rope was coiled fairly neatly and a hook was made. The rope was glued to the boat.

 

I followed Chuck' suggestion and placed boat as it is described in his practicum. The plan calls for a boat being positioned towards port side but in this case the water pump will be covered and not quite visible.

 

The cradles used to store the boat are in different size. They are made out of basswood and stained to match the ship and glued to the ship.

 

I am expecting that having a boat in this location, sailors will have a bit of hard time and extra work to open those hatchets where the boat is sitting.

The lashing of the boat to the deck and a coat of varnish are next steps.

 

Happy modeling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lmagna]

34 minutes ago, moreplovac said:

sailors will have a bit of hard time and extra work to open those hatchets

I think that much of the time the boat would be in the water when the crew needed access to the hatches. It would probably be put over the side as soon as the anchor went down, and in many cases would be towed behind on shorter inland river and coastal passages.

 

As always your work and steady progress is impressive. 

[moreplovac]

 

The boat has been secured to the ship. The boat was lashed to the four eyebolts supplied with the kit. The length of them was shortened a bit and the pilot hole was drilled to the deck.

 

I build two hooks out of 0.4 mm wire and all these were dipped into brass blackening solution for few minutes.

 

The hooks got black patina very quickly but i forgot to remove protection from eyebolts so they had to stay a bit longer for desired effect.

 

The eyebolts were protected with a varnish and glued to the deck (pilot hole).

 

The rigging was made out of 0.18 tan rigging line i obtained from Syren Ship Model company during my adventure with Greek Bireme.

One end of a rope was lashed to the eyebolt and other end will have a hook on it.

 

The seizing for a hook was done in this way. There are different ways to achieve the same results but i decided to do it using zip seizing.

Here is my quick and dirty setup... For rigging work i use an accessory small desk i put on the building desk but for this two lines i did not bother to do to...

The needle received a tiny layer of waxing and a seizing rope was wrapped around making a cylinder which was secured with a cyano glue. The cylinder was removed easily from the needle thanks to wax. Then, the seizing was cut to required length.

 

 

The cyano glue was applied to the end of rope line so it can get stiff and easy to run thru seizing. The line was run thru seizing, the hook was attached and one more time back thru seizing...

 

The hook was attached to the eyebolt and rope was secured by puling the short end up. Touch of cyano glue was applied to the seizing to secure all in place, and extra rope was cut off...

 

Happy modeling..

 

 

 

 

 

[moreplovac]

Thanks to the high def pictures, noticed that tiller is actually positioning in wrong direction.. It will be interesting experience trying to steer the boat with tiller like this.. Need some quick fix today..

 

[Javlin]

That is some Nice work you got going there 

Edited October 22, 2018 by Javlin

[moreplovac]

8 hours ago, Javlin said:

That is some Nice work you got going there 

 

Thanks Javlin...

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

The new set of deadeyes from ModelShipways have arrived.. 5mm, 4mm and 3.5mm. One of these sizes will be scaled enough to get installed on the ship...

 

[russ]

Your model is coming along very well. Nice work. 

 

On the deadeyes, please proceed carefully. The kit supplied deadeyes are probably very close to scale. The 3 mm deadeyes you bought might work, but keep in mind, the larger the diameter, the more difficult it will be to get the required number of deadeyes to fit into the space provided. The deadeyes on a ship this small would not be very large. The 3 mm diameter would be equal to about 9 inches on the actual ship. That is bordering on out of scale. I hope it works for you. It is a nice looking model. 

 

Russ

[moreplovac]

Thanks Russ for your comments, appreciated... Yes, i will try to make deadeyes as close as possible to the scale. Just was not quite happy with kit provided deadeyes, they just appear not to fit right but will try few different sizes before making decision..

 

 

[moreplovac]

 

The wrongly oriented tiller has been created from scratch; the old one simple broke, unable to disassembly it and move to the right direction..

 

The new one was made out of piece of basswood, shaped and attached to the rudder. A white paint was applied and all installed back to the boat...

 

 

Then i spent some quality time with deadeyes; i started with 3.5 mm making deadeye assembly out of 0.3mm wire.

Several different ways of making usable deaeyes ended up in one approach i think i will use for the rest of them. Intention is to build template so i can do repetitive work faster...

 

 

Sorry the picture is not that sharp..

 

Testing on the boat a deadeye of 3.5mm size...

 

... and will make another one in 3mm size again and compare. Decisions, decisions.

 

Happy modeling..

 

[lmagna]

19 minutes ago, moreplovac said:

Decisions, decisions

I don't envy you.

 

I looked on my set of plans for the Sultana, (Ben Lankford 1993) and on sheet #2 it says that the dead eyes are 7" and the lanyards 1/2". In 1/64th scale that would work out to .109379" or 2.778 mm.

 

1/2" = tiny in mm.

Edited October 29, 2018 by lmagna

[russ]

Your dead eyes look pretty good. I would not go any larger, though. Nice work. 

 

Russ