vossy Posted October 3, 2018 #1 Posted October 3, 2018 Is this kit the current "go to" kit on the market for size, quality, plans, material, and authenticity? Or are there any others in the wings/development that rival it? Cheers Chris Quote
mtaylor Posted October 3, 2018 #2 Posted October 3, 2018 There's one in development for Amati by Chris Watton that should be the "go to" kit. But there's been no release date. Canute and vossy 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
vossy Posted October 3, 2018 Author #3 Posted October 3, 2018 Hey Mark, any more info on that? Size etc? Links? Cheers Chris mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted October 3, 2018 #4 Posted October 3, 2018 Chris, Do a search here for Victory and Watton. There's not been anything beyond what I posted. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
michael101 Posted October 4, 2018 #5 Posted October 4, 2018 If I remember well the 1/64 kit it made of MDF (keel and bukheads) not sure , but if so .... it much better to build it from plywood and If the material is not important just build it from plastic anyway for my opinion if the keel and bulkheads not made of plywood its not a wooden ship... in my country we called to MDF - a cardboard best regards , Michael. mtaylor 1 Quote "smooth seas do not make good sailors..." MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli) SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/
amateur Posted October 4, 2018 #6 Posted October 4, 2018 Amati did something strange: on their website is a model of HMS Vanguard, but the pics they show are the scale 1:64 HMS Victory ..... https://amatimodel.com/ecomm/I/articolo/B130004 Jan mtaylor and michael101 2 Quote
michael101 Posted October 4, 2018 #7 Posted October 4, 2018 strange, btw also this kit made of 5mm MDF cant understand that mtaylor 1 Quote "smooth seas do not make good sailors..." MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli) SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/
amateur Posted October 4, 2018 #8 Posted October 4, 2018 Why not? From a kit-makers perspective, it is the ideal material: it doesn't warp as plywood does, it is easy to handle and it is cheap. Jan mtaylor, realworkingsailor and Dubz 3 Quote
Baker Posted October 4, 2018 #9 Posted October 4, 2018 I found this buildlog on a Dutch forum. Impressive model. Of course with Dutch text but with nice pictures. http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/hms-victory-caldercraft-1-72.205911/ http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/hms-victory-caldercraft-1-72.205911/page-23 mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
michael101 Posted October 4, 2018 #10 Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, amateur said: Why not? From a kit-makers perspective, it is the ideal material: it doesn't warp as plywood does, it is easy to handle and it is cheap. Jan because its not wood ... also in the future you cant know what can happen to the model due the humidity temperature act.. better to pay a little bit more and to work with wood but again its my opinion Regards, Michael. mtaylor 1 Quote "smooth seas do not make good sailors..." MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli) SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/
Mike Dowling Posted October 4, 2018 #11 Posted October 4, 2018 So, what is the best Vic Kit available out there ? Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
michael101 Posted October 4, 2018 #12 Posted October 4, 2018 For sure it is the Caldercraft !!! Its expensive but It's worth the money (every cent ) just buy it without thinking too much .. i was in the same situation before i bought this kit and thanks God I am very pleased !!! You can follow my build log and if you will have some questions you can p.m me mtaylor 1 Quote "smooth seas do not make good sailors..." MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli) SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/
michael101 Posted October 4, 2018 #13 Posted October 4, 2018 Cant see the difrent between MDF to a cardboard both of them was a wood in the past... And that is for sure the MDF sometimes its more stable even from solid wood because it made in mold... but all this its good until the humidity get contact with this new material then it getting a critical damage ..... and it not worth the time to work few years in a model that will gate a critical damage in the future Btw in Israel they made a new MDF that is much stronger than the normal one and it didnt past the test of our army ... (and im not talking about guns ... just talking about office desk of the army) mtaylor 1 Quote "smooth seas do not make good sailors..." MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli) SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/
Kevin Posted October 14, 2018 #14 Posted October 14, 2018 this is the link to the Victory and Bellona Revenge https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/985-amati-and-chris-watton/&tab=comments#comment-15431 mtaylor 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
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