Santa Maria 1492 by Katsumoto - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - scale 1:65

[Katsumoto]

24 minutes ago, nikbud said:

She is looking a beauty, Peter, you should be justifiably proud.

I love the look of the Lombard, it looks very purposeful, and the anchors' look great.

Good on you for getting the beeswax to work, I just ended up with a waxy mess...….

I am still smiling sir!

Thanks!

[Katsumoto]

11 hours ago, Wallace said:

The idea you had with the wire to pull those ropes through reminded me of when I ran wiring in a house I built back in '96. We had to do pretty much the same thing to get the electrical wiring through some tough spots in the walls. Nice job Peter. That oil does make the wood look fantastic. I just love the way different oils make the wood pop. I have worked with quite a few different woods in my woodshop and treated the things I made with both Danish and teak oil. Depending on the structure of the wood you get a different result each time - always interesting. It really is like bringing the wood to life!

It’s what gave me the idea because I need to run a few wires myself in my new house. Simple but effective! 🙂

 

[MESSIS]

Fine done! Wax its a very good material used as you described above. It also helps the rope to tied steady.

 

And its nice if after you wax the rope,you pass it over a candle  flame. It cleans the rope (mostly the black one) from shine and discolored wax traces. 

[nikbud]

3 hours ago, MESSIS said:

And its nice if after you wax the rope,you pass it over a candle  flame. It cleans the rope (mostly the black one) from shine and discolored wax traces. 

Never thought of doing that. I just use a flame to get rid of the fluffiness, but it comes back after handling. Combining the two methods is something I will try.

Cheers!

[Katsumoto]

20 minutes ago, nikbud said:

Never thought of doing that. I just use a flame to get rid of the fluffiness, but it comes back after handling. Combining the two methods is something I will try.

Cheers!

 

I'll pull the rope after the waxing between my fingers a couple of times. This creates friction, thus heat and does the same thing the flame of the candle does, melt the wax and gets absorbed into the rope. Both methods are perfect for the job. Just be carefull you don't burn your fingertops!

 

[MESSIS]

😡 or set the ship on fire!

[Katsumoto]

Hi guys,

 

Today a small update. Just a few pictures but it took me some time to figure this one out.

First a made a second lombard, just copy the proces of the first one and make a duplicate. So two down, two to go!

 

 

Second is the flagpole at the stern of the ship. This took me a while to find the proper solution. First I'll show you how AL designed it.

 

Situation by Artesania Latina:

source: www.staticmodelkits.com

 

Then the situation at my ship. And look at the center cleat...this one is in my way to place a knee to hold the flagpole. 

 

Current situation

 

I decided to take the cleat away and place a knee. Then replace the cleat on the knee which is fairly common. I made the flagpole from a bbq stick which is made of bamboo. Nice thing about bamboo is it's strength. A negative aspect is it's hard to stain with a walnut stain. So I compromised and stained it a bit and then placed it on the ship.

 

New situation:

 

 

 

What do you think?

Peter

Edited January 9, 2019 by Katsumoto

[nikbud]

Looking very elegant, Peter.

Just a thought though; In "real life" would they have put a flag so close to the lamp?

Flappy material touching hot metal containing a hot flame = scorching! 😎

[Katsumoto]

3 minutes ago, nikbud said:

Looking very elegant, Peter.

Just a thought though; In "real life" would they have put a flag so close to the lamp?

Flappy material touching hot metal containing a hot flame = scorching! 😎

 

It's a thing indeed. I know that these flags were in fact bigger and were in range of the lanterns. The lanterns were of bronze and glass. So the flame could not reach the flag. I don't know how hot the bronze or metal would become and if the flag was there at night?

Maybe they didn't raise the flag during nighttime? 

 

Also the flag should be raised with rope and not been folded around the flag pole. However, I took the decision to do it like this due to the material of the flag. It's like a big fabric-like sticker...It was not easy to do with rope. However, I can change it if I can manage to do it the right way..I just don't know if I succeed.

 

 

[Katsumoto]

33 minutes ago, Wallace said:

In the perfect world a cloth flag would come in very useful here. You might want to try this link Peter:

https://www.miniatureflagshop.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA1NbhBRCBARIsAKOTmUtIbGrjnXdvCu28RO14u_1SIyF3EMj46ia4MWm3moa5VSg6B7mkdpAaAnotEALw_wcB

Don't know if it will help but it's certainly worth a try I guess. 

Thanks, Mark

 

As a matter of fact, they have the historical Spanish flag in store. The shipping costs for overseas / international orders aren't cheap. The size of the flag is way too big... a bit bigger is okay, but this is tripple the size of the current flag... so, it won't do unfortunately

 

Edited January 9, 2019 by Katsumoto

[marktiedens]

Good solution - I`m not too sure that flag would be in place on a real ship out at sea.  It might interfere with the adjustment of the lateen yard,so being close to the lantern would not be an issue.

Really like the wood color of the hull!

 

Mark

[MESSIS]

Flag issue

 

Guys its the issue I face by every model I do. These are my latest thoughts/views and dids:

 

1. My preference

I believe the flag isnt flying when the ship sails. The flag is flying only when ships reach the port. And ofcourse we (in our navy at least) take down the flag when the sun sets. But.... on the contrary to all the above on my last model I found it  challenging to fly the flag on the sailing ship... I believed it was going to be pretty and nice and elegant and classy and, and,and... and it turned out beautiful... just beautiful!

 

2.custom flags from UK

For my last model Fr.Hermione, I decided that the French flag in the kit wasnt the right one. I decided that having the royal envoy on board (Marq.Lafayette) the flag to use was the King's flag, Lui's flag (Haus of Burbon flag). So I order a custom made cloth flag by https://www.alwayshobbies.com. I have send them the picture of the flag and the dimensions I needed. Came in 10 days to Cyprus and the price was reasonable. Very good quality and could form the wind with hot air. You can see that flag here in blog in my Herm. buildlog or in kits gallery.

 

Christos

 

 

[Gregory]

Very nice work!

 

I have had this kit on my shelf for a while.  Your log has inspired me to seriously consider getting started on it soon.

[Katsumoto]

38 minutes ago, Gregory said:

Very nice work!

 

I have had this kit on my shelf for a while.  Your log has inspired me to seriously consider getting started on it soon.

Thank you Gregory,

 

it’s a Nice kit to build, not to difficult or complex but lot’s of fun building her.

 

regards,

peter

[Katsumoto]

**Chapter 11 - Main Mast**

 

Hello fellow mates,

 

It's been a while since my last update. I've been in preperation for our new home. just a few more months, and then we move. 

So, my spare hours are slim so to say. 

I've started with some construction work on the main mast. Unfortunately a few pictures seems to got lost somewhere during the proces.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, the main rope which is provided with the kit is of a light colour. I do not like it and changed it into a darker colour by staining it.

I just used a normal woodstain for the job.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not in heaven with all the wires and knots....but I'll manage...

 

 

 

An overview of the workplace....

 

 

Starting with contruction of the main yard...

 

 

 

 

During my work, my son and little friend of 3 years old, wanted to help out. So we got a block and placed it onto the yard. 

He was very proud and continued to play with his trains and told his mother he helped daddy with his ship! These moments are gold! 

 

 

 

 

So, this was it, until next time. Stay tuned and please leave a comment if you like!
Peter

[marktiedens]

Very nice,neat work.

 

Mark

[nikbud]

Well, as we have come to expect, Fantastic!

I always look forward to your updates, there is always something for me to aspire to....

I love the look of the mast and yard, great colouring, it all looks so authentic. I hope you don't mind but I am so nicking sooo many of your ideas for my build!

Great to see your son getting involved, if it hasn't got wheels my son isn't interested, and if it doesn't go into space or is in Minecraft my daughter isn't interested!

[MESSIS]

6 minutes ago, Wallace said:

They certainly are Peter. Enjoy every second sir, they grow up so very fast (my son will be 30 this year..... where does the time go?)

@Wallace oh how right you are. Where does the time go... I got already a grandson.

[Katsumoto]

1 hour ago, nikbud said:

Well, as we have come to expect, Fantastic!

I always look forward to your updates, there is always something for me to aspire to....

I love the look of the mast and yard, great colouring, it all looks so authentic. I hope you don't mind but I am so nicking sooo many of your ideas for my build!

Great to see your son getting involved, if it hasn't got wheels my son isn't interested, and if it doesn't go into space or is in Minecraft my daughter isn't interested!

 

I consider it a honour if you nicked my ideas! 😎

Both of my sons are like building things, at least if it got wheels or wings. 😁 

 

kids... 😆

[Katsumoto]

58 minutes ago, Wallace said:

They certainly are Peter. Enjoy every second sir, they grow up so very fast (my son will be 30 this year..... where does the time go?)

Yes, time flies...I am just a bit older than your son sir. 😉

 

56 minutes ago, Wallace said:

Paul has a point there, it does look awesome. What are you using to color/stain those yards with Peter? (If you had already answered that somewhere in your log forgive my senility sir) 

 

I use a plain walnut woodstain, nothing special actualy. Brand name is Rustins and I believed it to be of English or US made. 🙂

glad to answer it sir. 

[nikbud]

Peter, how did you start and stop the wraps of thread around the mast and yards, it looks incredibly neat.

 

🧙‍♂️ Too neat, must be some wizardry afoot......

 

😁

[Katsumoto]

7 hours ago, nikbud said:

Peter, how did you start and stop the wraps of thread around the mast and yards, it looks incredibly neat.

 

🧙‍♂️ Too neat, must be some wizardry afoot......

 

😁

It’s a kind of magic...😎

 

 

i’ll make a drawing to show you how I did this because I can’t explain it with words alone.

[nikbud]

2 hours ago, Katsumoto said:

It’s a kind of magic...😎

 

 

i’ll make a drawing to show you how I did this because I can’t explain it with words alone.

That would be much appreciated Peter!

[Katsumoto]

2 hours ago, nikbud said:

That would be much appreciated Peter!

You can nick this idea as well...

 

So, I wrapped the rope around the wood, but not tight. Both ends of the rope goes underneath the wrapping in opposite direction. Then I tighten the wrapping by pulling at the ends, it's a bit fiddeling doh to get it the way you want it. The end-parts is then cut off after a bit of glue and you're finished.

 

I'll hope this makes a bit sense to you?

 

[nikbud]

49 minutes ago, Katsumoto said:

You can nick this idea as well...

 

I will Peter, Thank you!

So simple but looks fantastic.

We shall have to see if I can get as neat as you...……..😎

[Katsumoto]

9 minutes ago, Wallace said:

That method you used Peter is similar to what the sailors used to call whipping. 

Check this out, it tells you a little about it. I am going to be using it on the Vic, hope it looks as nice as Peters 😁

Correct Sir. So, I have a book called "the art of rigging" and these techniques are all represented in the book. It's truly an art to do it the way the sailors did it those days. In many way's it is to complex or not necessary to do all the complex knots and rigging. For my model I choose to let it look similair, but in fact isn't. I use the rope included in the kit. Maybe give it another colour but that's about it. I rig the ship as it's shown into the kit manual and drawings, and I know it's not the way the ship should be rigged compared to a period ship of that time period. This depents truly on the model and personal reference ofcourse. 

 

It helps doh, to use some of these techniques to achieve a specific knot if you have no clue to do it in any way...

 

Thanks for the URL Mark!

 

 

[Katsumoto]

**Chapter 12 - The art of rigging**

 

G'day my fellow mates!

In this update I'll show you the last parts of wood turned into something usefull and the first baby steps with rigging the ship.

It's the last stage of this build and untill now what a journey it is. I hope you guys and galls stick with me to the end...so I can count on your support. I'll need it, because rigging is not my speciality at all.... 

Besides good quality books of rigging, I tend to use some of the knots, whippings, lashes etc described in these books, but I also use other methods that will give the same "authentic" result. Doesn't matter if it's in fact not.... Did I say that out loud? 

So stay with me off we go. The last wooden parts of this ship's being made...

 

 

 

I still use my "poor mans lathe" to taper the end part of a straight piece of wood...

 

 

 

 

 

The mizzenmast being formed. I drilled a small hole of 1mm in the middle. I use a pin to insert in the hole and connect it with a block. So I drilled a hole in the block as well. The pin wil be there for strenght but not shown in the endproduct.

 

 

 

 

The result for two masts...

 

 

 

After this I had a little setback... There was an error in the kit manual and partslist. There was a wrong measurement within the partslist and the result of that was a missing piece of 4mm walnut wood roundbar I needed tot finish a yard. So I decided to step into the car and drove off to my nearest shop, approx 1 hour drive and found a walnut roundbar of 5mm. I took it with me home and figured out how to convert a 5mm roundbar into 4mm...

The solution was a lot of elbow grease and sandpaper...

 

 

I had to taper the ends as well, also flatten one side to connect with the other part...

 

 

 

The green arrows show the places where the wrapping of some rope will be placed.

 

 

And the result of that part (red arrows)

 

 

The endresult of all the masts and yards!

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sails*

So, the kit provided with "instant" or prefabricated sails. At first glance it's not to bad. After some inspection, it's not that good. I decided to use them because I'm on a deadline. I need this baby to be finished before we move to our new home. Sails can be changed later if I want to.

Then the red crosses on the sails... I am not a big fan of those. There is a lot of speculation between scientist and scholars if there were red crosses on the SM or not. We know that there were different meanings of the red crosses. There was the Christian Orde and the Knights Templers Orde with both different interpretations of a red cross on the sails.

 

So, different types of crosses, different meanings, different timeperiods, the debates over with and without.... I know for sure that I'm not a scientist and a scholar...so I go without red crosses on my sails. I will alter them a little by staining the cloth with some tea..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[b}*Rigging the ship - stays & shrouds*[/b]

So, to hold the main mast sideways, stays & shrouds were used. I'll show you the start of this proces by rigging the first shrouds.

 

 

 

 

To help myself with the part of connecting the upper deadeyes to the shrouds, I'll made a small jig. It's a simple one, just the end parts of some wooden toothpicks glued onto a piece of wood. This creates a fixed position of the deadeyes and help to align the upper deadeyes so they form a straight row.  

 

 

 

 

So the picture above shows the way I use my jig to hold the deadeyes in place, so I can easily connect the shroud to the deadeye.

After this I made the lanyards to tighten the shrouds. With a temporary knot I let the shrouds be for 24 hours and bring it on tension after this and fixate the lanyards.

 

 

 

This was it for this update....more rigging, knots, lanyards and shrouds to come, so stay with me! Until next time!

 

See ya!

Peter

[MESSIS]

Superb work! You realy got it in you!

 

Well done my dutch friend.

 

Christos

 

 

Ps how to you plan to blow wind in those sails so that they want hang on the yards as dead?

Edited February 4, 2019 by MESSIS

[Baker]

Nice work with masts, sails and rigging.

Congrats !! 

[Katsumoto]

Thanks guys!

I am not sure about the sails Christos...I’ll cross that bridge when I Get to it.