HMS Fly by vths - Victory Models - Scale 1:64 - Second wooden kit build

[vths]

Thanks, today I was experimenting with matt and semi-matt varnish and I finally chose to apply diluted semi-matt Nelson. The guns finally look as I wanted to. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2014 by vths

[WackoWolf]

Cannons are looking vey nice. Keep the pictures.

Edited January 24, 2014 by WackoWolf

[miketherock]

Nice work. Will you be fitting capsquares over the trunions?

[vths]

Thanks guys. 

 

Definitely, capsquares are planned, I just need to figure out what they will be made of and how. There will also be pins in the axles as a little cherry on the top

[miketherock]

I made mine out annealed brass pins hammered flat then compressed over the raised trunions.

A little bit of filing and two blobs of thick glue for the fixings.

Once they were painted it looked the nuts.

I did use the original carrages though.

Edited January 20, 2014 by miketherock

[vths]

I finally finished the prototype. There are new photoetched eyes which are much more to scale, pins in axles and capsquares made of copper foil and .5mm copper wire. I think that'll do for now. 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2014 by vths

[aliluke]

Great work Vitus. Your carriage romps all over the kit supplied ones and is easily equal to those after market ones you can buy. Although I still have doubts about the kit barrel in terms of scale, your treatment of it makes it look the part well. Superb photos too by the way.

 

Cheers

Alistair

[vths]

Thanks Alistair, I was also worried about the size of the cannon, but there were many types and those supplied are only a tad bigger than armstrong's sixpounder, so what the hell

[vths]

Just finished the first batch of 10 sixpounders for the covered parts of the gun deck, so I've made also a few pictures of them. Looks like its decorating time now and doing whatever can be and has to be done before covering the deck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2014 by vths

[Blue Ensign]

An excellent result Vitus, the guns look impressive, good to see they're sitting square in the ports.

 

B.E.

[vths]

Thanks B.E.  I was just checking your log and the fine progress you made. I'm very worried about the guns though. How did you manage to work so heavily on the ship with the guns run out? I feel like at some point I will make a bad move and break some of them off, which is a bit terrifying. Also, is there any reason why you have no guns visible in the very front and rear ports? (perhaps because of the same fear I have

[Blue Ensign]

Thanks Vitus, unshipping a gun in an inconvenient place is always a worry. To try and reduce the risk I pinned the carriages to the deck and pinned  and glued the cap squares to hold the trunnions in place on the barrel. The barrels are not glued and do move which reduces a little the effect of any shocks. Coupled with the rigging I hope this is enough to keep them safe.

 

The foremost port is a Bridle port rather than a gun port and there isn't really any room to stow a gun there anyway. On the kit all the ports are the same size but in reality the Bridle port should be narrower.

 

Pegasus was a fourteen gunner and although the aftermost port was cut, a gun was not placed there. With Fly which had a much longer career than Pegasus, additional guns in the aftermost port would be appropriate.

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

[vths]

Always learning something new, thanks.

 

Yesterday it was gallery carving time. I used walnut and limewood, but the result is not much satisfying, I don't like the colours. Maybe I should paint the great parts in plain ochre or maybe use a completely different scheme. Any opinion?

 

 

 

 

[Blue Ensign]

I think I would like to view it with the canted lights in place as well, and an overall broadside shot to better judge the colour balance with the rest of the hull.

 

B.E.

[vths]

Okay, here you go. I tried to paint the details black, since the background for the various ornaments is black as well... 

 

 

 

[Blue Ensign]

That looks fine to me Vitus, the colour tone echoes that of the rails, and the decoration level looks fine for what is a lowly Sixth Rate. The only thing I might think about changing is the Acanthus leaves decoration on the Canopy to a relief moulding rather than cut into the Canopy itself.

 

Such decoration could be fashioned from thin card or paper and simply stuck on and varnished over, just a thought.

 

B.E.

[miketherock]

Nice job. Very tidy.

[vths]

Cheers guys.

 

B.E. the very same occured to me and I tried to use modeller's clay to create the moulding, but it was utter rubbish. So let's forget the galleries for a while and present the captain with a few chairs. Great for small parties with senior officers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[aliluke]

Hi Vitus

Your quarter badges look good but I think compared to the rest of your build they will annoy you later on. As per earlier posts, I reckon you'd still be well served with the Pegasus PE set to lift the detail - window frames, pillars, window head/sill and decorations. However you do get a bit of hybrid ship and that might not suit you. I guess my thought is that the badge needs to be as sharp as everything else and (more an observation than a criticism) at the moment it isn't to my eye.

 

The cabin looks really great. Not quite a Doris job but who, aside from her, does a Doris job? My cabin is a black hole but it is too late now to retreat from that.

 

Cheers

Alistair

[vths]

Thanks for the honest words, Alistair. As for the badges, they surely won't annoy me later on, 'cause they annoy me already But I needed to hear/read something like this to make a decision and scrap them. I will make new pieces, this time using much harder wood (got a few pieces of acacia left), no soft and fragile lime. 

 

Yes, Doris job is uncomparable, but she does that at different scale and in different universe Cheers, V.

[Martin W]

The cabin furniture is great!  I can just imagine Jack Aubry gorging himself in there on toasted cheese, or spotted dog.

 

Cheers (or perhaps I should say, Sir, the bottle stands by you!),

 

Martin

[vths]

Cheers, Martinw. Jack just got some new equipment and a bottle of port. There is also new lighting - instead of two huge LEDs I've installed short piece of LED strip - more light and it won't be visible through the windows

 

 

 

 

 

[vths]

Stern galleries v2.0. Walnut looks much better than lime which had to be painted. Maybe I'll add some decoration to the black top, maybe not.

 

[Martin W]

I like that 2.0 version.  And I'm impressed you were able to fashion an entirely new version so quickly and well.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

[vths]

Hey folks, got a small update. I finally moved on and closed the rear deck, so the captain's cabin is finished and sealed and six guns with basic breeching are in place. On starboard side they are run out and on the port side they are in for reloading. I'm planning to show them at different stages of reloading, but that is so far just a thought for the visible ones.  

 

Now I need to get rid of the dust and plank the rest of the decks.

 

 

 

 

 

[Blue Ensign]

Quarter badges look good Vitus, tone in beautifully with the hull

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

[aliluke]

Good to see you back at it Vitus. Agree with Martin and B.E the quarter badges are really fitting in. The fit of the upper deck looks perfect and the cannon strategy is an interesting variant. Glad to hear you are dusting the deck! It sure looks dusty .

[vths]

Thanks guys. Now it is planking time and first, the poop. 

 

 

 

 

 

[aliluke]

Nice work Vitus - your deck planking is very good. I'm building up to this step. Good to see your planking layout and nice to see that you tapered and hooded the planks into the margin (much better than a straight run and butt). That is my plan as well although it scares me a bit. I'm also pleased to see that you have a bit of kink where the two, dreaded, plywood gun port patterns meet. I have one too and only just noticed it when I dry fitted the quarter deck - it made me angry. But I am not alone! and we will have to work through that together. That said it isn't a big issue and I think the cap rail will sort it out so that it is no longer perceptible.

 

I'm intrigued that you have the inner layer of the stern piece already on. Do you intend to glaze each stern window and then lay them in? Or are they already in and glazed? I'm going around in circles thinking of how to do this but your method - if you can explain it - was not one that entered that circle. My plan was to do the quarter deck with the stern transom off and then build that as a complete piece, curved, fully glazed and then fix it into place - with the last step being the most difficult...

[Blue Ensign]

Nice job on the Quarterdeck planking Vitus

 

B.E.