DocBlake Posted December 27, 2018 Share #1 Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) I own a Byrnes saw and I wouldn't trade it for the world! A marvelously precise and well designed tool. My go-to for all cross cutting, ripping , mortising etc. The only flaw in the saw is the lack of a tilting arbor for angle cuts. The tilt table accessory is cumbersome and time consuming to set up, and not really amenable to small pieces of stock. I'm thinking of investing in a dedicated tilting arbor saw for angle cutting. Recommendations??? Proxxon vs. Micro Mart?? Which model (s)?? Where to purchase - Ebay vs website? Edited December 27, 2018 by DocBlake Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted December 27, 2018 Share #2 Posted December 27, 2018 Dave: Give this a try before crossing off the tilting table for the Byrnes saw. Cut some wedges from 2x4 stock to the angle you want to cut with the saw and the tilting table and put the wedges under the saw so that the tilting table sets level with the bench top. This in effect tilts the blade to the table making it much easier to use. The thing becomes much easier to use and safer without having to try to hold the work up on the table with a tendency to fall into the blade. For the little bit of angled cutting I do this has worked for me - and I sure don't need another saw in the shop. Take care, Kurt mtaylor, Canute, Geoff Matson and 1 other 4 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted December 27, 2018 Thanks, Kurt! I'll give it a try! Canute 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted December 27, 2018 Share #4 Posted December 27, 2018 It's often easy enough to run a sharp plane down the edge of the piece after it's cut at a right angle and obtain a bevel. (Or, turn the plane upside down in a vise and run the workpiece over the plane blade for even better control of the cut.) I've also used the Byrnes disk sander for beveling. The table tilts for that purpose. You'll pay as much for a tilting arbor saw and will get a lot more use out of the Byrnes sander for other tasks as well. The biggest limitation of a tilting arbor saw for really fine work is that to get a zero clearance on the blade opening, you have to make a custom saw plate for every angle you want to bevel. michael mott, Canute, Roger Pellett and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 27, 2018 Share #5 Posted December 27, 2018 Dave, as I understand it the Proxxon and the MicroMark are basically the same product. Go with the suggestions you've received and try them first. There are issues with any tilting arbor saw where the blade is tilted due to play in the mechanism. Canute and paulsutcliffe 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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