Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 2, 2019 #1 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) This is my second build log on this site and it is my first POF. There are excellent build logs for the New Bedford Whaleboat here (Carlmb, Mike-In-Ri, Rbohlman, Senior-Old-Salt, Soup591, Ziled68) and elsewhere (https://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html). As a result of this, I will post progress pictures and make only brief comments where necessary to point out peculiarities found during my build. First the kit: Marked waterlines on profile mold. Fitted section molds. Cut notch in cap strip. Fitted with cap strip. Glued cap strips and section molds to profile mold. Edited January 10, 2020 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Tigersteve, RBohlman, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 2, 2019 Author #2 Posted August 2, 2019 Finally got the molds fastened to horses and horses fastened to construction board. I should have studied the plans a bit more carefully as I glued the fore and aft horses to the cap strip. I don’t think it will pose too much of a problem as they should be fairly easily cut away. GrandpaPhil, Tigersteve and Jack12477 3 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
RBohlman Posted August 2, 2019 #3 Posted August 2, 2019 Thanks for the build log. Great to see another whaleboat being built. Please keep the posts coming! Quote CURRENT BUILD: HMS Winchelsea, 1764 ~ 1:48 scale COMPLETED BUILDS: New Bedford Whaleboat ~ 1:16 scale Ships in Bottles Models Card Stock Nautical Models ~Donor & Member of Nautical Research Guild~
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 5, 2019 Author #4 Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) Assembled and glued first laminated keel pieces for stem and stern. Next a copy of top and bottom center keel board templates were glued to 3/64”x1/2” and 5/64”x1/2” boards and trimmed. Only the lower layer has the center board slot cut at this time. The first layer laminate pieces were beveled and the kerf cut. Glued paper is easily removed with application of some alcohol Edited August 5, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Sea Hoss, G.L., GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted August 5, 2019 #5 Posted August 5, 2019 Doing the whaleboat, nice! I do believe this will be my next also. I will be following Paul. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 8, 2019 Author #6 Posted August 8, 2019 The second laminate layers were assembled and glued. The upper and lower keels were positioned and glued to the laminate layers at the stem and stern.Next, the keel lips and laminate bevels were smoothed at the kerf joints. Then the garboards were beveled on the upper outboard edge, soaked in 50/50 alcohol/water, fitted to the molds and keels, allowed to dry and glued in place using medium and super thin CA glue. G.L., Tigersteve, Papa and 2 others 5 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 12, 2019 Author #7 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Strakes #’s 2, 3 and 4 were glued into place using CA glue. In order to keep the glue off the molds, waxed paper was slipped between the strakes and molds. The battens were glued to the strakes with PVA prior to placement. Strake #5 is shown below clamped to the provided clove piece for shaping prior to gluing. So far, no real problems have occurred. 😎 Edited August 12, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Papa, GrandpaPhil, RBohlman and 7 others 10 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted August 12, 2019 #8 Posted August 12, 2019 Lookin good! Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Arthur Wayne Posted August 13, 2019 #9 Posted August 13, 2019 Paul you are definitely a fast builder! I'm subscribing, although I have my next project lined up I plan to build this kit some day in the future. Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 15, 2019 Author #10 Posted August 15, 2019 Completed to Sheer strakes. RBohlman, GrandpaPhil, Sea Hoss and 2 others 5 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted August 16, 2019 #11 Posted August 16, 2019 Looks great! Pretty intricate build huh? Looks like a challenge. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 16, 2019 Author #12 Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Sea Hoss said: Looks great! Pretty intricate build huh? Looks like a challenge. Not too bad! For some reason I find it a bit slow going. The nice part is that the strakes were laser cut but some needed battens attached to them. Soon the fun begins as 24 frames have to be added. RBohlman 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 16, 2019 Author #13 Posted August 16, 2019 Well, the hull has been built. I noticed a couple of issues which I should have caught and addressed earlier. Looking at the stem from the front, I noticed the strakes below the Sheer are off a bit (the stern was spot on). 😳 The second issue is that the tops of most of the molds do not touch the inboard side of the keel. The latter probably resulted from the fact that I removed the boat from the molds after each strake placement so I could run super thin CA down the seams. Hopefully it will not affect the outcome. Here the Sheer strake is clamped until the glue dries. Below, the Sheer and Gunwale. Below, the boat, retaining battens and molds have been removed from the Horse. Because the boat fits rather loosely, I have decided to do the framing without the molds, etc. Before removing, I will use mold #3 to mark the position of the central frame. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 19, 2019 Author #14 Posted August 19, 2019 Started framing and decided to make a jig for spacing the frames. The jig was simply made of blocks, cut to the correct length, glued with Extra Thick CA glue to a 1/32” brass strip. The central portion has no spacers so that the frames can be easily positioned. After marking the central frame using mold three, I proceeded to put the bottom half of the laminated frames in place. I expect a few days of work to finish the frames entirely. G.L., Sea Hoss, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Arthur Wayne Posted August 19, 2019 #15 Posted August 19, 2019 That framing jig is a great idea. I pondered how those frames could be installed evenly looking at other similar boats, now I know! Your boats looking really good Paul, have you started thinking about a color scheme yet? Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 19, 2019 Author #16 Posted August 19, 2019 Arthur, the color scheme is my biggest pondering right now. I know Whaleboats were not always painted the same but each company had their scheme for recognition at sea. The recommended colors are not too bad. Other folks building this model have deviated from this, some completely. Curious, do you have any suggestions as to what you would do? As a matter of fact, I would like others out there to jump in on this. Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted August 19, 2019 #17 Posted August 19, 2019 Hey Paul, the Whale Boat is lookin great! For a possible hint on the color scheme, you may try The New Bedford Whaling Museum web site. I know they have a half scale whaling brig on display and several chase boats. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 19, 2019 Author #18 Posted August 19, 2019 John, thanks for the suggestions. I will visit the site. Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 24, 2019 Author #19 Posted August 24, 2019 The frames were finally completed. They were held in place for the PVA glue to dry with a clamp at the gunwale strake and a pin at keel. The thwart risers were also attached with PVA glue at a distance below the top edge of the gunwale strake as indicated on Sheet 2 or the plans. The risers were made from kit supplied 1/16” x 1/4” strips. RBohlman, GrandpaPhil, Tigersteve and 6 others 9 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 26, 2019 Author #20 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) I have now completed installing the Thwart Risers, adjacent ceiling pieces and beams for the stem and stern sheets. The Thwart Risers and Ceilings will be painted so I have chosen not to use nail fasteners. The outer strakes will also be painted. Next will be the Centerboard Trunk and Mast Step. Edited August 26, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Jack12477, GrandpaPhil, G.L. and 7 others 10 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted August 26, 2019 #21 Posted August 26, 2019 looks great! Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted August 27, 2019 Author #22 Posted August 27, 2019 Centerboard Trunk and Mast Step have been completed. Reinforcing strips were glued to the top of the keel in two places for mounting rods. Tigersteve, tarbrush, JpR62 and 8 others 11 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted September 1, 2019 Author #23 Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) I have completed the ceiling. I used 3/64” x 5/16” strips for all ceiling planks except #6 on the port side where the gap was a bit too wide. Here I cut a plank to fit from a 1/2” wide strip. Edited September 1, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze G.L., aaronc, JpR62 and 8 others 11 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
G.L. Posted September 1, 2019 #24 Posted September 1, 2019 Nice and neat work! Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24
Arthur Wayne Posted September 1, 2019 #25 Posted September 1, 2019 Looking really good Paul! You have cut and formed a ton of wood to get this far, I envy your ability to get so much done so fast. I can't wait to see your next update! Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted September 2, 2019 Author #26 Posted September 2, 2019 I am having real problems making the Cheek pieces. The dimensions on the plan sheets don’t help very much. I have attempted several pieces and none seem very close to what others have achieved. Not only do I have to get one right, I will have to cut another matching one for the other side. I have several pictures of what others have done, but descriptions are very sparse. Some have indicated that they are not too hard to make. Before I waste more daylight and wood, I would appreciate any tips from others. Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
GrandpaPhil Posted September 2, 2019 #27 Posted September 2, 2019 Cardstock makes excellent templates. Once you find what fits, trace it on the wood. Then just flip it over and trace the other side. Unfortunately, sometimes it comes down to trial and error. Dr PS - Paul Schulze 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted September 3, 2019 Author #28 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: Cardstock makes excellent templates. Once you find what fits, trace it on the wood. Then just flip it over and trace the other side. Unfortunately, sometimes it comes down to trial and error. I see how cardstock would work great fro 2D; however, the Cheek pieces have a complicated 3D twist with scarfs. I think I can get the scarfs OK if I can get the basic twists down. I can probably used cardstock to get the proper length and height of the Cheek and then do some carving on the resulting block. I will continue working on it - trial and error. If other builders of the MS NBW have scale drawings of the Cheeks, I would appreciate any help. Edited September 3, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted September 3, 2019 Author #29 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) I have taken a different approach and think I am on the right track now. I will post my results when finished. Edited September 3, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted September 6, 2019 Author #30 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) First cut was deep enough to include the rabbet cut for the gunwales The second was cut parallel to the drawn line to form the outboard side of the Cheek. The rabbet cut was then shaped to give a fit. Finally the scarf was made for the inwale. Edited September 6, 2019 by Dr PS - Paul Schulze JpR62, GrandpaPhil and G.L. 3 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
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