Glory of the Seas 1869 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - 1/96 - medium clipper

[rwiederrich]

Spent a bit of time sanding and filling defects.   Its a process...that has to be done to get a smooth hull and finish.

 

We still have some time ahead on this process.

 

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

After these images I added some more filler.  Now it's time to dry.

 

Here is an idea of the bow...I will thin out the stem to make it more to scale.  this is the process I am following...to lay the strakes THEN add the stem and keel.

 

Rob

[BANYAN]

Now starting to show her true lines Rob.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Keith Black]

Nice progress, Rob. GS's hull shape appears very business like, it's all about cargo tonnage. 

[rwiederrich]

I had many family planned events this weekend so I spent no time working on Glory.  While I was in hiatus....I did a bit more research on the structures of her stem , keel and stern post.  Her keel was 16" but as it transitions to her stem it begins to quickly taper and from what I can gather her stem is roughly 9" wide along its length, up and to include its foot of the her figurehead.

 

Many reproductions of models fail to correct the dimensional errors found in the models pre cut bulkheads....to truly mimic the actual scale dimensions of the keel and stem.

If one looks closely at Glory's launching photo..you can make out the transition from her narrow stem to her more robust keel.

 

I will be plaining down her stem frame to a more accurate scale proportion...before I affix it to her hull.

 

I hope to return to her this evening and again....sand and fill her hull.  You can from these images her transition(look close) and her stem up close to see its thinness. 

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Outstanding work Rob. 

I moved along with mine as well. 

[rwiederrich]

1 hour ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Outstanding work Rob. 

I moved along with mine as well. 

I've been watchin.  It's kinda fun to be building the same vessel from the same bulkhead design...but being a fully scratch built model as well at the same time.   We can glean from one another.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

22 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

I've been watchin.  It's kinda fun to be building the same vessel from the same bulkhead design...but being a fully scratch built model as well at the same time.   We can glean from one another.

 

Rob

Yes and with quite different approach  . so far a bit hassle with evening bulkheads but once done should be straightforward. waterway and sheer would take me longer though. good luck. V. 

[rwiederrich]

22 minutes ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Yes and with quite different approach  . so far a bit hassle with evening bulkheads but once done should be straightforward. waterway and sheer would take me longer though. good luck. V. 

Take extra time to verify that all your bulkheads are fared and are transitional.  I noted that bulkhead #3,, #5   and I think #9 or 10 have some issures with their widths.  Run some string along the bulkheads to validate their true flow from one to another.  I had to make some drastic mods to correct these issues.  I hope they did not translate to your scale.

 

And yes..the waterway is the most difficult to bend at the bow.....   Cut sections are probably your best bet.

 

Good luck and let the fun begin.....

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

6 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Take extra time to verify that all your bulkheads are fared and are transitional.  I noted that bulkhead #3,, #5   and I think #9 or 10 have some issures with their widths.  Run some string along the bulkheads to validate their true flow from one to another.  I had to make some drastic mods to correct these issues.  I hope they did not translate to your scale.

 

And yes..the waterway is the most difficult to bend at the bow.....   Cut sections are probably your best bet.

 

Good luck and let the fun begin.....

 

Rob

Rob check my log its all there. yep i confirm around 10 bulkhead strangely i had to diminish it and no 4 as that one was slightly narrowed for smoother arrow ...but i had to add to it finally to go smoothly. its all even. next i will go making waterways, stern profile and knightheads and rabbet and keel - seems it all will be some important fun. ill inform along. lets hope i will guess stern curvature right. fingers crossed  V.  

[rwiederrich]

56 minutes ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Rob check my log its all there. yep i confirm around 10 bulkhead strangely i had to diminish it and no 4 as that one was slightly narrowed for smoother arrow ...but i had to add to it finally to go smoothly. its all even. next i will go making waterways, stern profile and knightheads and rabbet and keel - seems it all will be some important fun. ill inform along. lets hope i will guess stern curvature right. fingers crossed  V.  

Indeed...glad you overcame the issues.  Once I finish sanding the hull...I will begin carving the mid deck stern portion just beneath the poop deck.  I think I will carve it instead of trying to bend planks around to get the right curve and camphor.

 

I'll keep an eye out at your log as well for any updates I can glean from.  fingers crossed....

 

Rob 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

4 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Indeed...glad you overcame the issues.  Once I finish sanding the hull...I will begin carving the mid deck stern portion just beneath the poop deck.  I think I will carve it instead of trying to bend planks around to get the right curve and camphor.

 

I'll keep an eye out at your log as well for any updates I can glean from.  fingers crossed....

 

Rob 

Wow thats interesting approach i may try ti mimic. I ll watch closely . 

[rwiederrich]

8 minutes ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Wow thats interesting approach i may try ti mimic. I ll watch closely . 

Vlad.....One thing I adhere to.....is.......if you're going to paint it....who cares what it is made of?  I also plan on using styrene strips because they bend oh so sweetly and once painted.....they look just like wood strakes.  so my thought is.....use whatever you can to get the job done.

Steaming planks......?  I don't need to steam no stinking planks........   Heeheehee LOL....

 

Sorry....I got emotional.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

15 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Vlad.....One thing I adhere to.....is.......if you're going to paint it....who cares what it is made of?  I also plan on using styrene strips because they bend oh so sweetly and once painted.....they look just like wood strakes.  so my thought is.....use whatever you can to get the job done.

Steaming planks......?  I don't need to steam no stinking planks........   Heeheehee LOL....

 

Sorry....I got emotional.

 

Rob

Guess what? I was thinking today about damn useless proper planking not speaking of tapering etc. what for - if all ends up painted black... still having time but i dont see another option than planks atm . instead of proper size i can use way thicker to speed it up... 

[rwiederrich]

2 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Guess what? I was thinking today about damn useless proper planking not speaking of tapering etc. what for - if all ends up painted black... still having time but i dont see another option than planks atm . instead of proper size i can use way thicker to speed it up... 

That's right.....Just remember to make sure you let the plank follow its natural path around the shape of the hull......  Then cut in the next plank.

 

You'll see I did that on mine.

 

Fast make for more fun IMO.....since I am not trying to showcase my planking prowess.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Right...I used veneer thin pine strips there are 2' wide to cover my Great Republic hull.  It didn't matter what the planks looked like...paint, paint, paint.......

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

I worked a bit on the hull last night (forgot to take and post  pics).   (What a loser)

 

Anyway....I worked on the planksheer as it terminates to the stern and I spent some time contouring the portion of the stern that is between the deck and the main rail.  It has a different angle(Curve) then the section below and above.  The closeup of her stern from when she was heading to Alaska will clue you in.

 

Once I finished that task, I did some more filling of the hull and I ended by applying a thick coat of grey latex paint to the entire hull.....to seal it and permit me a contrast sand better.

 

I'm also coming to a point where I will need to decide if I want to add the deck or hold off and finish up the gunwale , ribs  and main rail first.  I want to sand and even out the deck prior to install......if at all possible.

 

Again....I hope to post images tonight of my progress (If I remember)

 

Thanks for lookin in.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Well here are some images....after some serious sanding/filling.  Don't worry...things are not as they seam.....do not follow the strake lines...they are off....but no matter.....Speed Racer is here to save the day.....  The stem will be cut back to accommodate the cutwater and more planks are still need to finish off the forecastle...

 

Rob

Edited June 16, 2021 by rwiederrich

[rwiederrich]

NOw to some serious hull working....I added the stem...stern post and the keel.   I also reduced the stem width to a scale 9" and added the planksheer around the stern.  I still need to contour the section between the planksheer and the rail moulding.

 

I also added some more filler to complete the hull correction and to fix a few dimples.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Adding some more filler to fix that bulkhead defect and some more blemishes.  Once dry....next couple of days....I will sand again and then add the deck prior to the gunwale and forecastle rail.

The hull looks a little short, because of the lack of gunwale.

 

Rob

[BANYAN]

That hull is starting to look really good Rob; it shows the benefits of all that research you have done, such as the stem profile etc.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

34 minutes ago, BANYAN said:

That hull is starting to look really good Rob; it shows the benefits of all that research you have done, such as the stem profile etc.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Thanks Pat....she's still a mess and one has to look deeply into her to see the true her coming out.  Yes like yourself...research is a big player in the final outcome.....

 

Thanks.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

She looks mighty Rob, i wish to see stern with all the rails high up so it will look full. looks you really know and controll your process. nice pics. V. 

[ClipperFan]

Rob,

Now we're talking! Glory's Bow profile, especially new, accurized Cutwater and Naval Hoods really reflects all the many improved photo documentation Mike has shared with us over the past year. Even more impressive is her vastly improved, now gracefully light Stern profile. I only hope that Mike's publishers might even consider including your completed model in his latest book.

I can't wait until my health improves enough to be able to more fully participate again.

[rwiederrich]

17 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob,

Now we're talking! Glory's Bow profile, especially new, accurized Cutwater and Naval Hoods really reflects all the many improved photo documentation Mike has shared with us over the past year. Even more impressive is her vastly improved, now gracefully light Stern profile. I only hope that Mike's publishers might even consider including your completed model in his latest book.

I can't wait until my health improves enough to be able to more fully participate again.

RICH...I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK IN (AT LEAST A LIMITED CAPACITY).

 

Thanks for the fine comments.....
Fathers day celebrations slowed me down a bit...but I hope to get back at her very soon.  This week I am going on holiday to the ocean, for a weeks long bike ride...so it might be next week I can get back full swing.

 

Rob

[ClipperFan]

2 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

RICH...I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK IN (AT LEAST A LIMITED CAPACITY).

 

Thanks for the fine comments.....
Fathers day celebrations slowed me down a bit...but I hope to get back at her very soon.  This week I am going on holiday to the ocean, for a weeks long bike ride...so it might be next week I can get back full swing.

 

Rob

Rob,

Thanks. It finally feels like my body is on its full way to recovery, Thank God! I'm glad to hear you had a nice Father's Day get together with family. I never asked. Do you have kids or grandchildren?

By the way. Do you know if Michael's been able to see these pics of your impressive 3rd model? I would be thrilled to see images of your and Vladimir's completed projects in his 3rd book. Probably not possible due to production timelines but it never hurts to ask.

Meanwhile, on your vacation, due be careful. I hear riding in the surf can be very tricky!

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

15 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob,

Thanks. It finally feels like my body is on its full way to recovery, Thank God! I'm glad to hear you had a nice Father's Day get together with family. I never asked. Do you have kids or grandchildren?

By the way. Do you know if Michael's been able to see these pics of your impressive 3rd model? I would be thrilled to see images of your and Vladimir's completed projects in his 3rd book. Probably not possible due to production timelines but it never hurts to ask.

Meanwhile, on your vacation, due be careful. I hear riding in the surf can be very tricky!

I am happy for your recovery progress Rich. Nice to have you back here. V. 

[rwiederrich]

I did take some time yesterday to add the sub deck.  I still need to finish it off and sand it in preparation for the planks.

 

Still working on the final contour of the hull.  will add a bit more filler and do some more sanding.

 

I'm off for holiday for the rest of the week...so I won't be doing much on Glory till next week.

 

Thanks for looking in.

 

Rob

[BANYAN]

Ah, now she really starts to show her lines.  Coming on nicely Rob.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

It has been a very slow couple of weeks.  I was on holiday then we had an extreme heat wave for half a week (112 deg).  So I was out of commission for a while.

But I'm slowly getting back into it.   I measured and cut both gunwales and cut in their sheers to meet along the planksheer curve.

 

I first painted the blue/grey waterways first...because that would be pretty tough to do cleanly after the install of the gunwales and framing...that are painted pearl white.  I'm in the process of cutting all the framing.  I will paint them first prior to install...and I will paint the joining edge of the gunwales and  planksheer union.   Just makes the finish so much nicer.  I'm using maple veneer for the gunwales.

 

I began with the port side first....measuring, cutting , gluing and painting.....then I'll move to the port side.  I get more satisfaction and a sense of greater accomplishment, if I tackle and complete one small project at a time then if I were to do both sides at the same time.

 

I failed to take images during this work, but I will make up for it tonight, when I can put in several hours.

 

Still lots of sanding to do and the addition of another coat of latex grey primer to fill in gaps and identify any more irregularities in the hull.

 

It's a process...but as I move along I'll draw closer and closer to the final black finish.....but fist I'll have added all the moldings and channels and the naval hood.

 

Thanks for looking in.

 

Rob

Edited July 1, 2021 by rwiederrich