samueljr Posted June 22, 2013 #1 Posted June 22, 2013 Well I thought I'd put the start of the plans out here and get the thread up and running. I'm still counting out and converting block and line sizes (makes for hours of fun for the whole family) I have to actually do it twice as I'm going to use Chuck's (SyrenModelingCompany) blocks and line but I also have to have the comparable product accounted for from Expo/Shipway as well that will be included in the kit. In addition to the rig I have to draw out and construct the remaining open launches, draw and create the additional anchors and a few other details (ideas) that I have. I'll say it now (although I'm certain I'll say it again) there will be no sail plan. Sam ESSEX RIGGING PLAN 062013.pdf Jaxboat, trippwj, BareHook and 3 others 6 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
JeffT Posted June 22, 2013 #2 Posted June 22, 2013 Looks good Sam. Thanks for posting. Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
kb466 Posted June 22, 2013 #3 Posted June 22, 2013 Sam, Looks excellent! Any idea when we will see this supplemental kit from ME? Bill M.
augie Posted June 22, 2013 #4 Posted June 22, 2013 She's going to be something! Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
samueljr Posted June 22, 2013 Author #5 Posted June 22, 2013 Thanks everyone, As far as time of completion - two weeks! LOL! Seriously, I'm usually pretty fast at rigging in comparison to the hull build, but with the added responsibilities of the manual and plans I'm not certain. It will be in 2014 I know that. Just an "observation" - I started the original ESSEX project of the solid hull upgrade in 2007 and will complete the ESSEX POB in 2014. They built the REAL ESSEX in about 10 months in 1798-99 with no power tools or electricity........... And as I've pointed out before - their's floated and had working guns! The one thing that I am debating is process methodology. By that I mean how do I show the steps basically. One of the things I have found "interesting" as I design theses kits is that I have to sometimes (often) forgo the little tricks and shortcuts that we all develop over time and show more fundamental methods of construction. As an example for ESSEX's rig, my own preference is to build the mast and yards in their entirety off the hull, attach as many blocks and lines as I can and then install the mast with this large tangle/spiderweb of lines hanging down and then start to tie them off. It works for me but as a presented method in a manual for the general public probably not so much. So as I said - two weeks.................. Talk soon - Sam Jaxboat, mtaylor, Anja and 1 other 4 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
samueljr Posted August 4, 2013 Author #6 Posted August 4, 2013 For those of you who are interested in the ESSEX rig you'll be happy to hear that Model Expo (Eric) has asked me to switch my focus from the solid hull conversion of PHANTOM and concentrate on the ESSEX rig until completion. So I'll be re-organizing my work bench for the next few days or so and then moving forward with the task at hand. Also take a look at the Kit review thread on ESSEX. There are some updates on the kit components. Sam ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
kb466 Posted August 5, 2013 #7 Posted August 5, 2013 Sam, That is great news about the kit for the Essex rig! With the full realization that I am being selfish here (I am very interested in the Essex, while not as much concerning the Phantom), I will anxiously await the issue of the rigging kit! Thanks Sam and thanks ME! Bill M.
samueljr Posted August 5, 2013 Author #8 Posted August 5, 2013 Bill - thought you'd be happy............... Sam ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
fnkershner Posted August 5, 2013 #9 Posted August 5, 2013 Sam - I have orders from the admiral not to invest in another kit until clear some of the current Backlog in the shipyard. So it will be at least 5 yrs before I consider this kit. But I am enjoying following along with your efforts. I think it is interesting to see what goes into developing a kit. Thanks for your efforts. Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
samueljr Posted August 5, 2013 Author #10 Posted August 5, 2013 Floyd Sneak another one in - she'll never know! We wont tell! LOL! Thanks for your kind words. Kit designing is "interesting" - to say the least. For me especially as I'm not a scratch builder by any stretch of the imagination. I'd rather buy a kit and bash it. So go figure............ Sam trippwj 1 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
fnkershner Posted August 6, 2013 #11 Posted August 6, 2013 Sam - I am a long ways from being an expert. but I gotta think scratch building would be easier than kit designing. Not that I am going to try either one. Jaxboat 1 Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
samueljr Posted August 6, 2013 Author #12 Posted August 6, 2013 Floyd I gotta agree with you on that. With scratch building - the project's your's - good, bad or anywhere in between. With kit design it belongs to EVERYBODY! LOL! Sam Jay 1, Jaxboat and fnkershner 3 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
mtaylor Posted April 7, 2016 #13 Posted April 7, 2016 That file has been damaged and is un-recoverable. Hopefully someone can help you. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
spongbob Posted April 13, 2016 #14 Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) just to have some closure subject being was hoping that rigging meant rat lines and ropes tied to spars tackles and rungs on bungs i scarcely see one line drawn.. Athough very helpful for making masts and spars ..i guess to find rig tyeing would be a hassle to depict also a line by line add by process order would be luxury to be be leaved !thanks.... Edited April 13, 2016 by spongbob
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