Hermione La Fayette by TheDutchShipBuilder - Artesania Latina - second wooden ship built

[Anja]

Hello Nick,

 

Very nice start of your build.

And by the looks of it, you have every tool available to assist you.

 

Anja

[chris watton]

Very impressive - someone after my own heart. Well done.

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update

It was a sunny day, so I decided to work again outside.  

I begun by placing the real keel onto the false keel (what i had started yesterday). Before it, i noticed i little bow in the keel, so i puted the keel between two planks, so it could bow right. on the last photo, you see that it is really right (I think)

 

Right enough I think  

 

 

So after this i could finally put the keel on the building slip (what a difficult task was, because the groove of the building slip was larger than the keel, so i had to put some wood and paper between the keel and the groove.

 

Then i started to cut out all the bulkheads and put them (without glue ofcourse) on the keel:

 

Then i started to change some of the bulkheads (two exactly) I had to do this, because i make the lower deck larger  . 

 

 

 

I'm going to put blocks between the bulkheads. This make the frame more sturdy and the bulkheads are in this way perpendicular.

Edited January 20, 2015 by NickvN

[M. Pajulahti]

Hey Nick,

I saw you got a lot of nice tools there! Looking good

I have that billing's building slip too, and the same problem here with the keel - I just didn't added the real keel there yet to make it fit. I made some "helping blocks" instead of that. And also, my false keel was pretty warped, but i got it ok.

And, my billing's building slip's importantest part, the one that keeps the bulkheads straight, is also very warped in every direction. How this feels so unfair? Yours is so straight and good! I don't know what to do with it, but it's not a problem right now because i have already succesfully installed all the bulkheads in this ship.

Thanks for adding so many nice photos!

-Markku

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

That's is a really problem yea.

Thanks by the way for letting me know that they don't be called trusses, but bulkheads    .

I had make mine wrong (the important part), so I had to get the pieces of of each other, and make it over. So i fought because of that, it wouldn't be straight anymore, and i couldn't use it. But luckely, it is very straight  

I hope you can find a solution for your problem (maybe you can make it new).

Tomorrow i will be building again on the ship, and i hope i can post a update (last day's were very busy for me, because of sportday on school, etc.)

 

Cheers,

Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update

Hello everyone.

I forgot that day 3 had already past, and that i hadn't post day 3 on the forum (this because it was a really short day, where i haven't come further than make a gap for the lower dek into the other bulkhead i had to modify).

It was a rainy day, so i decided to work for the first time inside.

My chamber isn't very big, but I do have a big office in it i can work on. It's large enough  

The big work, like sanding, I do outisde in the shed where we have stalled the bicycles. Because of that, i can't put down a workbench in it, and work there  

As i told before, I have only saw a piece of one of the bulkheads to make the lower deck larger:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have worked as precisely as i can, and i think the result is good enough. It's not wonderful, but i think good enogh, because you will not see it when the boat is finisched    :

 

And my beautiful boat on the plank above my bed         :

 

Yet i descovered that there was a little bow, and I want to make this ship really straight, so i decided to bend it right with a elastic   :

 

I hope to get a lot further tomorrow.

I hope also that i don't post to many photo's, because i want you to have a good view of how i build my ship 

Also I need some help of you!!

The clamps you see on the last photo holding the elastic are very handy. So i want to buy more. But I don't know what i gonna do. I can do two things:

Buy a set of 8 clamps with a clamp range of 10 centrimetre, or buy 4 bigger ones with a range of 30 centrimentres.

What should i do???, I can't buy them both, because that's to pricy for me, and i don't need so much!

 

Cheers 

 

Nick

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[pompey2]

Nick

 

A diificult call on the clamps.

One thing I would say - your need for larger range clamps is mostly on the earlier stages of build.

Later on you might find you need a lot of smaller ones.

Not sure if that helps much?

 

Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Hi Nick

 

Thanks for your comment. It was very helpfull in my decicion. Because the beginning of the built did go very well without large clamps, i decided to buy the small ones. I now have to wait to reseve them.

 

Cheers, Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update

Hello everybody

It has been a long time ago that i posted a new update/day on my built log of my ship.

Recently I have built on my boat, but i hadn't enough time to post it on the forum. So here's day 4, wich 2 days ago for me is  

It was again a sunny, and warm day. Yet I decided to work inside, because inside it was cooler. So I grabbed my stuff, and started to begin  :

 

I begun by placing the bulkheads onto the keel. This has cost me a lot of time, so this is the only thing I have done . The building slip helped me very much by placing the bulkheads straight on the bulkheads , but first I had to put a little piece of wood between the keel and some bulkheads because otherwise they were to low (to place the deck):

 

 

 

 

And so i started to put all the bulkheads onto the keel:

 

 

 

With the last one, i couldn't use the helping bit of the building slip, because otherwise i couln't get it away, as you can understand me   :

 

 

 

 

Same story at the front 

 

 

And the result:

 

And then the day has past. 

My uncle has already sawed some blocks really straight for me, so I can put them between the bulkheads. I will show them next time, and let you see what i ment to do    

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update 

Hello everybody.

Here is a little update to my built of the Hermione la Feyette

I went yesterday to a local hobby shop 40 kilometres away from my house, to buy some wood strips and planks. This because, as you know, I will be replacing the metal partsd in the kit for wood. For that I need ofcourse wood. I also bought a large plywood plank, to make the lower deck out (because it will be larger  ). At last i bought a large plank of balsa wood, wich is perfect for woodworking (to make the lion on the front and other things out)  

Also, my uncle has sawed for me some really straight blocks out of a plank, to use between the bulkheads. I will show them tomorrow, because then I'm also gonna put then in place

The plywood plank:

 

 

 

 

And the block balsa wood    (If I type balsa wrong, I'm sorry for that, but then I don't know the english name of it  ):

 

 

 

 

 

 

And next a lot of wooden strips. There are a lot, but I can also use them in future builts   . Luckely for me, the shop had a lot of variation in sizes of the strips, so I could easily pick the right strips:

 

 

Next I decided to cut the strips in half, so I could easily store them in a box  , so I took my Amati wood cutter, and cut al the strips in half (not precisely). And the strips cut into half:

 

And all the wood I now have (strips only) including the strips I had already in the kit      a lot of wood i think:

 

And that what I have bought in the shop. I also gonna buy some other thinks, like more guns, but I will do that in a while, but i wait with that.

I have called this post a Update 1 because I will have a lot of little Update's where I will not be building, but where I will be doing thinks what has to do with the built    

Tomorrow I will be building futher on the ship 

 

Cheers 

Nick

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[Meredith]

Welcome Nick

I am also very pleased to see young people get involved in this hobby. Amazing how many skills you can learn when you are doing something like this for pleasure. All the best with the build and I plan to follow your progress

[WackoWolf]

Where did you get that measuring tool? Never seen one like that.

[Sjors]

Hi Joe,

 

I'm not Nick but I shall try to answer your question…..

Every kid on school has such geometric triangle with protractor.

We are using it for mathematics.

You can buy it in the Netherlands at every warehouse where they sell school stuff.

 

[ZyXuz]

u're really well ready for your model!

keep the photos coming!

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Thanks Sjors and ZyXuz for your comments.

Sjors, you are right. I have mine from my father, but he did buy it in a warehouse as you said.

 

Cheers,

Nick

[Richard50]

Hi Nick, (I hope I have the name correct) It is so good to see your attention to detail and the commitment you have to your project.  I watch out for your postings each day, and find them very interesting; your photography is very good, which helps bring the model to life for us onlookers. Well done.

 

Richard.

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Thanks Richard

I'm using a really good photo camera, with a very high resolution camara. Sadly is, that I need to resize each photo because the sizes of the photo's are really big when i take them (2,5 mb). I use a very handy photo converter to convert them to 300kb, and then I can easaly post them on the forum. But the quality remains reallyh good, even thought I rezise them.

I hope I'm a little clear of what i typed above  

 

Next week I'm really busy, so it will take a while when there will be a new update (One day (day 5) i have to post yet, but i haven't got the time for that, because I have a party of my mother, who has succeeded for nursing )

 

Cheers

Nick

[Anja]

Hello Nick,

 

You've made some nice progress.

 

Congratulations to your mother and enjoy the party.

How did your testweek go?

 

Anja

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Hello Anja

Thanks for the complement.

My testweek went good, but because of some reasons I didn't make al the tests.

 

Cheers,

Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update

Hello everybody

Here is finally as promised day 5. I hadn't the time to post it, so it is already a few days ago  

I started the built by putting the blocks I had got from my uncle (who sawed it on his work) between the bulkheads. The blocks are very nice and straight, because my uncle uses a machine for it, so I'm really happy with that :

 

 Each block is numbered with the sizes they are in length (so this one above is 57mm long). As told before, I have measured the lengths between the bulkheads  :

 

First I had to sand the glue residues away:

 

And then I putted the first two blocks between the second and third bulkhead, and secured it with my clamps:

 

And then I glued them in place:

 

The glue has to hard, so in the mean while I first decided to sort the strips i had bought, and give them a label with the right sizes, so I can easily find the correct size strip. I also wrote on a piece of paper wich strip i need for each (metal)part    :

 

With a list of all the strips:

 

 

After that, I decided to make already some of the metal parts in wood. I only started on the dinner bell.

Much nicer I think   :

I haven't finished it yet, but I will do that next time 

 

(meanwhile I got the second two blocks in place between the bulkheads)

 

And that's it for day 5 

The they after (saturday) I will go on holiday (I will be on sailing camp with the scouting         ) until sunday the 28th of July. The 25th of July is my birthday, but I'm not at home 

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[ZyXuz]

that's some good progress

enjoy your holiday! 

 

[maaaslo]

 

it is always nice to see somebody with so much enthusiasm. ive lost mine long time ago ( i build only when i am in mood. last "mood " was two months ago...)

id ike to point at something. you mentioned you want to use balsa for carving. i am not so sure if it is a good idea. balsa is not the best material for carving, due to its grain. i would probably grab rather something like... wood from linden tree, perhaps something soft, but carveable. balsa is i think just way too soft for carving.

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Hello Maaaslo

 

Thanks for your compliment, and I hope you will find your enthusiasm back, and get on with building.

You might be right about the balso wood for wood carving, but the shop recomended it for me, and I will yet try it out, and see if it will work. if not, I will buy the wood you mentioned. Thanks for the tip by the way.

 

Cheers,

Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update 

Hello everybody

Here a little update on my progress of the built of the Hermione la Fayette  .

As you all know, I have bought some wood strips to make the metal things out of wood. But there are things I needed yet, like more cannons. So for those last things I need, i went to the hobby shop I told of. (It's a very good and nice shop). Sadly, It's 40 kilometres away, but I found it not terrible, because I like cycling  

Once there, I bought the last thinks I needed to make my ship a beauty, and now I have finally all the things I need for my built to complete  :

 

I bought some barrels as decoration on the ship. I will make some other things (also some things for the captain's cabin) and will show that when the time is there :

 

And I also bought some wooden buckets also as decoration   :

 

Next i bought some belaying pins (I hope this is the good word for it). 125 in total! :

 

And for example, the metal pin next to the wooden:

 

I also bought something very interesting. I did want to make the gun ports also out of wood. The ones in the kit were from metal, but not very ugly. I doubted, because I didn't know how I wanted to make them. The ports itself isn't a very difficult job, but the hinges are. But then i found in the shop this, and fought this would come useful   :

 

I also bought a wooden grid to replace the metal one:

 

And then the guns. I saw some guns that were exactly the same as the one in the kit. But because some mistakes, the shop assistent gave me the wrong ones. I found this at home. But I do not bring them back, because they don't look very different, and they are much nicer then the one in the kit. So I decided to use these new cannons for the cannons on the upper deck, and for the cannons you can see trough a hol on the upper deck (if you can understand me        ):

 

 

Also, the hole on the front is much larger on the new cannon. I will see if I can make the hole larger on the old ones    :

 

I also bought a plastic gun carriage. This is the right size for the guns i bought, and i gonna use is as an example to make out of wood    :

 

I also bought a new (wooden) steering wheel. The new one is bigger, but I don't care about that, because there was not a smaller one. Also, in the kit you had 2 wheels, I bouight one, because i found that nicer, altrough it isn't original    :

 

And I bought 3 nice cases to put all these things in:

 

 

I also bought one extra wooden strip wich i will use for the gun carriage, and some round wooden strip wich i will make the gun wheels out of   :

 

I also told you that I want to do metal blackening. I'm glad to say i found something in the shop, wich is perfect for this. The shop assistent told me I have to be careful with it, because it's bad for your skin    :

And that's it. I now have all the things I need (I hope). Soon I will post a new day of my built log, but tomorrow I will be on holiday for 8 days (as I told before). I have built yesterday on the ship, and maybe I can post that day today, and otherwise it will be after my holiday      

I hope you all will enjoy also your holiday (when you have)      

 

Cheers  

Nick

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[Shipyard sid]

Welcome nick

Every thing is very neat and tidy, and you are doing really well. You have many friends who will all be be following your build,so you any advice you may need is always there. There is nothing wrong with your English at all. So nick just take your time and enjoy your build, and we will all enjoy watching you. DAVID

[ZyXuz]

Hi Nick,

I was using "Blacken-It" to blacken my bombards and the other metal parts.. 

Krick is also a good selection, I saw many members using it too

Blackener really gives a better view compare to paint.. but u'll have to work it out right..

for me, I made a mixture of 50% solution to 50% water.

 

I've those Amati cannons too, but Blacken-It takes no effect on them..

don't think they are made of metal

[Anja]

Hello Nick,

 

 

Van harte gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag. Ik wens je een mooie dag toe.

Happy birthday. I hope you have a wonderful day.

 

Anja

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Thanks Anja for your felicitation

I had a wonderfull day (I was on holiday) and I'm now back from my holiday

Soon I will begin with my built again  

ZyXuz, it's very sad to hear it will not work on the amati cannons. But they are not ugly how they are now

 

Cheers

Nick

[TheDutchShipBuilder]

Update
Hello everybody 
Here is finally day 6, after a long holiday where I have been sailing 
As I already mentioned, this day was before my holiday, but i hadn't had the time to post it.
It was again a day where I have done not much on my boat. I work slowely, and precisely. 
I have been working of the placing of the wooden blocks between the bulkheads.I will only post the end photos of it, because it is all the same  . This work i do very slowely, because I let the glue dry long, so it will not go off 
I also worked on the placing of the balsa blocks on the front of the ship. I have not finished that yet.
For that I had to take the hole boat out of the building slip and put it between a handy workdbench of my father outside:

 

Very straight I thought :

 

 

With my dremel I sanded the blocks (and bulkheads) in the right shape.

Finished one side:

 

 

The tools I used:

 

 

The time was late, so I decided to stop

So I couldn't sand the other balsa block, but I will do that today.

I have no futher holiday plans, so I can work the rest of my holiday on the boat    

 

Cheers 

Nick

Edited June 22, 2014 by NickvN

[trippwj]

Off to a very good start! Your precise work on these will make the planking easier.