rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #571 Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) So here is what happens when you don't re-research your build after being away from it a bit. I knew where I left off: ( the topgallent railing) but I didn't realize the errors that will always manifest themselves... (I cant seem to find the pictures right now..) Edited September 2, 2014 by rfolsom NenadM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #572 Posted September 2, 2014 Hello, Lawrence; I've looked at your fine Victory log several times now; There are so many for the Vic it's hard for me to keep everyone straight... But I'm watching and learning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 2, 2014 Share #573 Posted September 2, 2014 Mistakes are stuborn things, in ship modeling and in a life itself. You can put them under carpet, ignore them, do not see them, mask them, and be sure when you do not expect, you will hear their call or see them whispering: "Here I am" And there is your call to fix them or to live with them PS: it seems that ending of hard working day put me in a poetry way. Sorry for turning out of the road/subject Topgalant rail cost me tone of nervs, but I was in better (?) situation than you considering my deck walls ( bulwarks) dropped preety thick, and railing was easier (more surface for glue) with other putty acrobats I made In your case, your under railing is nice, gently and fragile, so what do you think about to call Harry Poter to help YOU CAN DO IT, BOB And I am unpatient to see rails on place Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #574 Posted September 2, 2014 Ok, I found my pictures, somehow saved in a file I never use; anyway, I should have sanded the bulwark assembly down a bit more before adding the rail; I was so preoccupied with getting the rail centered, I didn't notice this detail. I used CA to attach the rail, so I won't be ripping it out. The rail is a little thick yet, so after final sanding, shaping and staining it shouldn't look too bad. (I hope). Kevin, clearway, tasmanian and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 2, 2014 Share #575 Posted September 2, 2014 You have got just right look an feeling from deck. If you compare with photos from Her deck - this is it ! rfolsom 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #576 Posted September 2, 2014 My choice of stain (made many months ago) is now too dark in my opinion, but since quite a few fittings, plus the poop deckhouse are already made using this stain (Minwax red mahogany), I'm sticking with it. Here's some pictures of the curved stern portion of the topgallant rail. The last pic shows a close-up on the poop deck with the seam between the curved piece and the straight piece visible on the right. This is after initial staining and sanding. Final finishing will come later after the fore portions of the rails are installed (following cathead fabrication and installation) so the entire rail can be final sanded and finished as one continuous unit. Kevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #577 Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks for the kind words, Nenad. I'm actually more impressed with the closeups my $5 webcam takes than the railing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted September 2, 2014 Share #578 Posted September 2, 2014 it's looking great Bob- and don't forget there are lots of goodies that will hide a lot of the t'gallant rail as well. keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #579 Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks Keith; I'm counting on those goodies to do just that. But I'd better make those goodies "good", or I'll have to add even more goodies... (ad infinitum). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted September 2, 2014 Share #580 Posted September 2, 2014 Lol Bob it's a vicious circle sometimes- especially when Nenad has devine inspiration and goads you into more fun and frolics Keith NenadM and rfolsom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #581 Posted September 2, 2014 Yes, I think our friend Nenad must chuckle (evilly) to himself when he gets me going... clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 2, 2014 Share #582 Posted September 2, 2014 I heared that ... clearway and rfolsom 2 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share #583 Posted September 6, 2014 Well, ... Internet provider was down for about a day and a half; at almost $80 per month I was very unhappy with that situation... So I took it out on the C. Sark.... I ripped off the t. gallant rails.. They came off very cleanly, actually.. now I can fix the scaling problem with the white panels. It's always a good idea, when you're away from a build for awhile, to stare at the plans for a good minute or two (or hour) to re acclimate yourself to the ship and plan your next move; or else you'll be tearing pieces (or your hair) out. ~Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 6, 2014 Share #584 Posted September 6, 2014 If you have hair. What I to tear? Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share #585 Posted September 6, 2014 After 40, plenty of hair comes out of all sorts of weird places... clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted September 6, 2014 Share #586 Posted September 6, 2014 That may be true but what if you do not have any left to pull out? David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 6, 2014 Share #587 Posted September 6, 2014 Or not enough ... only 3-4 pulling left? Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share #588 Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) I wear a very convincing wig.. No railing pictures yet, but I made a small measuring stick based on Campell and went from panel to panel, sanding along the length of the bulwarks in order to get the proper height. Why I didn't do this before? I have no idea... (forest and tree scenario, most likely..) After this frustration, and while the new rails' stain is drying, I revisited my cathead prototype, decided it was o.k., and started another... These are the laminar pieces to replicate the sheave slots, that I have posted before.. Edited September 10, 2014 by rfolsom popeye the sailor and NenadM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share #589 Posted September 10, 2014 Cathead proto to the right, with sheaves, end iron, and eyebolt, (hard to see) and the wood only twin on the left... GuntherMT, popeye the sailor, dgbot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 10, 2014 Share #590 Posted September 10, 2014 neat way to do the catheads Bob. I really like how the inner bulwarks came out Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share #591 Posted September 12, 2014 Thanks, Popeye; hope to show the "new and improved" inner bulwarks soon... and more detail on the cats before installation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share #592 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Alright, CS Fleet; this is probably the #1 problem I can't get my head around... I'm working on the catheads, and I'm not getting any consistency between Campbell and the actual ship. Right now, I'm limiting my cathead attention inboards... There is a "pin" and a cleat that show up in radically different positions in regard with my two references (Campbell, and actual photos (courtesy of Lou). Also the taper of the cathead is not shown on the C. plans, but is evident with the pictures... This is the easy part... I still have to do the cat stopper tumbler and the whisker booms yet... SOS.. Which would be correct? Edited September 12, 2014 by rfolsom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share #593 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Compare these to Lou's CS090 picture...(which I can't reproduce here). Edited September 12, 2014 by rfolsom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 12, 2014 Share #594 Posted September 12, 2014 To thicken the soup ... Here are Lou`s and another present stage pics rfolsom 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share #595 Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks, Nenad; Campbell's plans are semi consistent with the actual ship... This goes for the cathead detail only... the 1/8":1' detail shows the cleats inboard of the pins; as in reality. His deck plans show the opposite; and indeed if you match the scale (from the same plan sheet!) nothing lines up. (Too much scotch for Mr. Campell that night, perhaps?..) Anyway, I'm done with diddling with this, so I'll be using the 1/8":1' plans; and adapting them as I see fit to the pictures of the actual ship.. Moving along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 13, 2014 Share #596 Posted September 13, 2014 Go on, I am watching Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share #597 Posted September 13, 2014 Progression with cathead fabrication cannot continue until I make the step to cut out the bulwarks where they fit on the ship. I affixed a template to the deck and used a razor saw to cut out the bulwarks. As I thought, the thin basswood broke on one side, but was an easy fix. These holes will have to be cleaned up before the catheads are installed. also, the masking tape and scrap wood shows where I protected the deck from my saw cuts. (Margin plank will be notched in this area.) Final photo shows my progress with the tumbler release handle for the cats... ~Bob popeye the sailor and tasmanian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share #598 Posted September 13, 2014 Inside bulwarks modified; see my post 586 for comparison popeye the sailor, clearway and tasmanian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted September 13, 2014 Share #599 Posted September 13, 2014 That looks a lot better Bob Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted September 13, 2014 Share #600 Posted September 13, 2014 Inside bulwarks modified; see my post 586 for comparison Very nice. As you are on deck. I like it. Think you have got right proportion of panels as on photos. Keep with good work Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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