rfolsom Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share #451 Posted July 23, 2014 ...and laminated to the three pieces that will be the top of the rail; grain flows lengthwise; time to cut it out and see if it will fit... dgbot, popeye the sailor, clearway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share #452 Posted July 23, 2014 These tangents, by the way, (catheads, rails) will all have to be (in my build at least) simultaneously assembled with the oval augmentation strips, all capped off with the continuous topgallent rail, assemblies painted or stained, then masked off and coated with protective finish... I can then proceed in any direction I like, (deckhouses, freeing port covers, scrollwork (how the h#@# am I going to do that??). Nenad; I see you are also pondering scrollwork; maybe I'll sit back and see what you come up with... ~Bob NenadM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 23, 2014 Share #453 Posted July 23, 2014 Nice fix on the rail Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 23, 2014 Share #454 Posted July 23, 2014 maybe I'll sit back and see what you come up with... Ah, Bob, my idea was to sit back and see what you come up with steps in front of me .... Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #455 Posted July 24, 2014 Outside curve of the stern topgallent rail has been cut and sanded to shape. I am very satisfied how it follows the curve of the hull. Now I just have to get the courage up to cut out the inside curve, and hope my structure is strong enough to survive the cutting process... Out comes a new #11 blade... clearway, dgbot, coxswain and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #456 Posted July 24, 2014 What a party, Bob ! I was there ... Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #457 Posted July 24, 2014 Rail survived the cutting process... and snapped during the sanding process... hopefully the cyano glue joint will hold during the rest of the sanding; just need to get the rail a uniform 1/8" all around, and sand round the inside edges.. The party continues... Aussie048 and clearway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #458 Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Try with medical pean and little pieces of sandpaper. Slow, but under magnifier, precize and it works well From one of my older posts I needed little rasp (2 mm) to correct traces of glue, to thin hinges, and to round corners of hinges. It was impossible on table before glueing ( less than 1x2 mm). I am blind for that, and hardly find that little pieces on desk, so I take my hidden toy, make some jig-rasp with sandpaper 280, and it works well I hope this helps N Edited July 24, 2014 by Nenad M Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #459 Posted July 24, 2014 Test fit of rail pretty much ok. Still needs sanding to make the even 1/8" all around. Masking tape is protecting main rail and deck from the white background paint for the ovals, waiting for strip installation.... Aussie048, 3qq, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #460 Posted July 24, 2014 It is time to engage your brain again See next picture It is clear that on places shown by red arrows, second planking layer is present And considering to the places where green arrow is appointed, this is metal, and there is some riveting .... Aussie048 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #461 Posted July 24, 2014 Wow. Actually Nenad, as you were posting this, I was looking at the same area (only on the INSIDE of the bulwarks) and it shows the same three plank scheme. I decided to do the inside planks to thicken the bulwarks.. Not sure if I can do both inside and outside; Maybe more walnut veneer... Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #462 Posted July 24, 2014 Consulting Campell's plans; the bulwarks in this area are still made of iron, with plain varnished teak panels on the inside. Giving thought to where this extra thickness would "reconcile" , I could not see a point on the exterior; but consulting Lou's photos, the interface between the inside teak panels and the sternmost vertical uprights on the oval panels would account for the thickness. johnwie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #463 Posted July 24, 2014 As for the riveting details on the outside, I will be working on this area, including all the freeing port doors, after the bulwark railings are complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #464 Posted July 24, 2014 Nenad; looks like you have a good technique with the hemostat; I am just roughing out all my pieces and parts right now., soon, (I hope), all this railing stuff will come together, and I can start giving the final finishing touches to everything; (and hoping for the best).. ~Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted July 24, 2014 Share #465 Posted July 24, 2014 I love watching Nenad play devils advocate with cutty builders . She is coming along great Bob. Keith rfolsom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #466 Posted July 24, 2014 Thanks, Keith. I know that when Nenad clicks the "Post" button, many times he has an evil grin and chuckle... Right, Nenad? (Pictures of fluffy persian kitties can't hide you now...) dgbot, popeye the sailor and clearway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 24, 2014 Share #467 Posted July 24, 2014 I appreciate that you are trying this rail in one piece, but would it not be in more than one, I love this build Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #468 Posted July 24, 2014 Four pieces, Kevin; with cross-grained structure, it never would hold up otherwise.. Thanks for looking in; ~Bob Kevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #469 Posted July 24, 2014 Thanks, Keith. I know that when Nenad clicks the "Post" button, many times he has an evil grin and chuckle... Right, Nenad? (Pictures of fluffy persian kitties can't hide you now...) So, you suggest me to change avatar ? For instance clearway, popeye the sailor and rfolsom 3 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted July 24, 2014 Share #470 Posted July 24, 2014 that would be very appropriate Nenad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #471 Posted July 24, 2014 It's good that Nenad gets us to think! Well, now it is finally panel mounting day for Bob. After 8 months of fiddling and ignoring these things, off and on, they are going on the ship, regardless of what they look like. I must say, with the many dissatisfactions of the build that I can live with, this one is the worst so far. Without mechanical help, however, I could never make these accurately, even if I practiced for 100 years. Some are better than others, and I plan on targeting the worst 5 or so and cutting them out for remaking, but then I will be done with it. Pictures will follow, and yes, some will be macro, just to show you why this is driving me crazy... But like I said previously, at least the build (hopefully) will be enjoyed, mistakes, blemishes, imperfections, and all; and not sit in a box to rot in an attic, forever incomplete... "Don't give up the Ship!!" clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #472 Posted July 24, 2014 "Inpatiente am I" said Yoda to Luck Skywalker ... Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #473 Posted July 24, 2014 8 months of dealing with these things? 5 mm x 130 cm? I think that speaks patience! (Darth Vader may lose his head in the process...) clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #474 Posted July 24, 2014 Bob, you were obviosly under influence by some kind of force from the dark side Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #475 Posted July 24, 2014 "No, That's not true.. That's impossible!!" "Come with me, it's the only way..." -Luke finds out about Dad... Now that 8 months of the dark side is shed, the starboard side is finished... (No close ups yet, gotta take a deep breath) popeye the sailor, clearway, bhermann and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #476 Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Extra fine and nice work, my friend. You have to be very very proud and satisfied. I like it very much. Nice straight line you have got. I can imagine this with toprail, nails and deadeyes and ropes ropes ropes What is next ? Edited July 24, 2014 by Nenad M Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #477 Posted July 24, 2014 During test fitting, I noticed my bulwarks were going to be a little short when the strips were installed; I'll be adding a 1/32" shim all along the edges to compensate, then sand everything even in preparation for the topgallent rail. (View is from the outside, showing the strip overhang) "...reckless is he, now matters are worse" dgbot, 3qq, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 24, 2014 Share #478 Posted July 24, 2014 Who can/could see this, Bob ? Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #479 Posted July 24, 2014 Nenad, if I sand this down as it is, the inner panels would lose their proper dimensions (i.e. the ovals would appear way to close to the top of the rail) Imagine my post #486 with two millimeters shaved off the top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolsom Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #480 Posted July 24, 2014 Nenad; Thank you for the kind words, my friend. You see the good picture; I'll be posting the frustrating pictures later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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