Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #571 Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Kevin when you get a chance could you check your kit to see if it has a part? I am searching for part #98 (see photo). It is called the Half Crown and is supposed to be on pack #8. I have scanned it and all the other packs and don’t find it. Curious if I am just not seeing it, I lost it somehow, or Heller no longer uses it. I am assuming this is what it is. Thanks Edited October 30, 2021 by Bill97 Hubac's Historian and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #572 Posted October 30, 2021 Thanks Ian. All the help is certainly appreciated. Yes I did get Daniel’s knight head. Will study all your suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 30, 2021 Share #573 Posted October 30, 2021 You are making hewr proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin-the-lubber Posted October 30, 2021 Share #574 Posted October 30, 2021 It's there on mine Bill, on sprue 8, the number is on the back side. Very small part. What is it with Heller, did they see no virtue in locating pins! Hubac's Historian 1 Quote Current builds: 1) HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/ 2) Bluenose II 1:100 (Billing) - paused, not in the mood https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30694-billing-bluenose-ii-1100-no600-by-kevin-the-lubber/ 3) Cutty Sark 1:96 Revell https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196 Stash: Revell Cutty Sark 1/96 (a spare for later) Revell Beagle 1/96 (unlikely to ever get built!) Revell Kearsage 1/96 (can't wait to get started on this) Revell Constitution 1/96 If at first you don't succeed, buy some more tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #575 Posted October 30, 2021 Thanks Kevin. I will look again. If it is on yours it has to have been on mine. Hope I have not accidentally discarded it when I cut off other pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #576 Posted October 30, 2021 Well this is a disappointing and unfortunate first for me. Apparently I must have discarded the piece of sprue 8 (both) that had this part😟. Never done that before. I always make it a habit to examine each piece of scrap sprue prior to discarding it. Kevin in your photo it appears part 98 is in the general area of the ladders. I have passed that area and installed all the ladders so I can only conclude it went with the scrap pieces of sprue. Lessons learned! Keep all scrap pieces of sprue until model is completely finished. Fortunately it is not a critical piece, more decorative. I will just attempt to hand paint the crown on the end. On a happy note, I have completed the stern and quarter galleries except for the lanterns which I plan to hold off on until closer to finish. Hubac's Historian, Ian_Grant and dafi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #577 Posted October 30, 2021 Ian in your previous comment you speak of the slots in the marine's walk. I am not familiar with the term. Are you referring to part #340 in the picture of the instructions? Heller calls it the bowsprit grating. Want to make sure I am following your advice. Hubac's Historian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted October 30, 2021 Share #578 Posted October 30, 2021 Yes, #340 is the "marines' walk". She is looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share #579 Posted October 30, 2021 Thanks Ian. Looking at the part I can see what you are meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted October 31, 2021 Share #580 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Look here in some pictures you can see the mariners walk and count where the 3 holes have to be. For the missing crown: As my research in my own building report shows that there should not be a crown but the Most Honorable Order of Garter, if you would like have 2 of those I could just send it to you 🙂 All the best, Daniel Edited October 31, 2021 by dafi Hubac's Historian and Ian_Grant 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share #581 Posted October 31, 2021 Good morning Daniel. If I am understanding you correctly, you say there is a picture on your build log that shows the mariners walk and where the rigging holes should be? Also, what is the Most Honorable Order of the Garter? Have not heard of this beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted October 31, 2021 Share #582 Posted October 31, 2021 Most Honorable Order of the Garter? Honi soit qui mal y pense 🙂 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30106-british-catheads-in-about-1800/ XXXDAn Ian_Grant 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted October 31, 2021 Share #583 Posted October 31, 2021 Wow, very nice catheads Daniel! And I love all the crew members on your gun decks. You should consider doing a cutaway on one side (or maybe get Kevin to make a part-hull side in clear resin? 😉) to show your outstanding detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin-the-lubber Posted October 31, 2021 Share #584 Posted October 31, 2021 I think Daniel would be more than able to do that himself if he wanted to, and probably make it look a lot easier than any attempt made by me. Bill, this probably isn't hugely helpful but, if you had a mind to do so, you could probably carve replacement parts from evergreen. Whatever you do they'll be an absolute pain to paint. Quote Current builds: 1) HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/ 2) Bluenose II 1:100 (Billing) - paused, not in the mood https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30694-billing-bluenose-ii-1100-no600-by-kevin-the-lubber/ 3) Cutty Sark 1:96 Revell https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196 Stash: Revell Cutty Sark 1/96 (a spare for later) Revell Beagle 1/96 (unlikely to ever get built!) Revell Kearsage 1/96 (can't wait to get started on this) Revell Constitution 1/96 If at first you don't succeed, buy some more tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted November 3, 2021 Share #585 Posted November 3, 2021 Just found by chance in the vaults, the mariners walk. I used the cutouts of the new holes to make up the old ones 🙂 XXXDAn Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share #586 Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Thanks Daniel. That is fantastic help! I was just now studying Longridge’s book for help with that. So the one on the left (black) is the correct hole placement? Getting some nice work done on the bow. Will be adding your resin figure head later. Edited November 3, 2021 by Bill97 Jeff T, dafi and Ian_Grant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share #587 Posted November 4, 2021 Daniel I replicated your marine walk holes. Also got your resin figurehead painted and installed. Ian_Grant and Kevin-the-lubber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share #588 Posted November 4, 2021 Ok my friends a sequence question. The Heller instructions have me moving into building the masts soon after I complete the bow and the bowsprit (with a little rigging). Looking ahead in the instructions I do not get to the cannon hatch doors to a good bit further along. I am thinking about going ahead and doing that before starting the masts. Would kind of like to pretty much finish the basic ship structure before moving vertical with the mast. Going to thicken them with some Evergreen, paint them red on the inside and in keeping with the hull colors on the outside. Also going to add eyebolts for the lines I already have in place to tie to. This will be a slow time consuming effort. Wonder if any of you have experienced a reason to postpone installing the hatch covers at this point other than the obvious risk of knocking them loose during future rigging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share #589 Posted November 7, 2021 Wanted to enhance the strength of the bowsprit by putting a wood dial rod inside before gluing it together. I decided since I was working on it I would go ahead and do the same with the bottom section of the 3 masts. That worked out well so after dry fitting them on the ship off to my makeshift spray box they went for a coat of primer. dafi, Jeff T, Ian_Grant and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share #590 Posted November 9, 2021 Daniel, or any of you guys that have used Daniel’s hammock cranes, I have a question. Today I have been working with the different etched hammock cranes. Making sure I knew which cranes went each place. I noticed in the photo from plate #4 instructions for the forecastle cranes that there appears to be an added piece of plastic under he cranes. This is not something I find in the Heller parts. Is this maybe a piece made from Evergreen and attached along the edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin-the-lubber Posted November 9, 2021 Share #591 Posted November 9, 2021 Bill, did you shape the dowels or did they drop straight in? Quote Current builds: 1) HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/ 2) Bluenose II 1:100 (Billing) - paused, not in the mood https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30694-billing-bluenose-ii-1100-no600-by-kevin-the-lubber/ 3) Cutty Sark 1:96 Revell https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196 Stash: Revell Cutty Sark 1/96 (a spare for later) Revell Beagle 1/96 (unlikely to ever get built!) Revell Kearsage 1/96 (can't wait to get started on this) Revell Constitution 1/96 If at first you don't succeed, buy some more tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share #592 Posted November 10, 2021 Kevin I had to shape them a bit as I got closer to the top. I took the three masts to my local hobby shop and selected dowels that most closely fit. Then I cut them to length and sanded a little where necessary to get them to fit snugly. Then ran a bead of CA glue and clamped them up. Not difficult at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share #593 Posted November 10, 2021 Kevin these are the 3 dowel sizes. The larger one that I used for the mainmast and foremast is 1/4”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted November 10, 2021 Share #594 Posted November 10, 2021 When I was doing that, the mizzen was so small inside I used a bicycle spoke. Not a great idea when it came time to drill a hole for a pin to hold the cro'jack yard, LOL.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted November 10, 2021 Share #595 Posted November 10, 2021 Bill your are doing a Really fine job of you Vic, and so good you are using the wood dowels inside your masts (you will notice so much difference in tortional strength) if you can also replicate your spars as well with dowels - they to will reward your fine build and stop and sag or bend with the kit plastic spars/yardarms. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share #596 Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Thanks OC for your nice compliment. Yes it is definitely my plan to strengthen the spars as well. Edited November 10, 2021 by Bill97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted November 10, 2021 Share #597 Posted November 10, 2021 The board underneath the hammock cranes from teh forecastle is in deed an ectrapart mabe out of 0,5 mm sheet material 🙂 It protects the hammocks a bit from the spray fom the bow. Wonderful job you are doing. all the best, Daniel Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin-the-lubber Posted November 10, 2021 Share #598 Posted November 10, 2021 Dowel/kebab sticks will be my fallback for the spars if resin doesn’t work, but I’m fairly sure the masts themselves will go well in resin as there’s more meat on them and lots of room for a stiffener. Quote Current builds: 1) HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/ 2) Bluenose II 1:100 (Billing) - paused, not in the mood https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30694-billing-bluenose-ii-1100-no600-by-kevin-the-lubber/ 3) Cutty Sark 1:96 Revell https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196 Stash: Revell Cutty Sark 1/96 (a spare for later) Revell Beagle 1/96 (unlikely to ever get built!) Revell Kearsage 1/96 (can't wait to get started on this) Revell Constitution 1/96 If at first you don't succeed, buy some more tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share #599 Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Installed the hammock cranes down the port side and the two interior places. As you may remember I have decided to leave all Daniel’s etched brass pieces shiny brass and not blacken them. Also followed Daniel’s lead and added a piece of Evergreen under the forecastle hammock cranes. Also dry fitted the foremast and attached a thread to the channel and around the top of the mast to simulate the future shrouds. Wanted to make sure I widened the fore channel enough that the shrouds will not interfere with the forecastle hammock cranes. All is well and with the addition of the deadeye height I think the shrouds will be just fine. Edited November 10, 2021 by Bill97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted November 11, 2021 Share #600 Posted November 11, 2021 Bill, I continue to be amazed at your speed. One note, though, those brass "whiskers" across the taller cranes near the top are meant to be removed. Regards, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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