Palm Gouges

[Boatsinc2000]

I have a set of chisels and would like add some palm gouges and would really appreciate suggestions.   I'm a novice here, so I don't know if I should buy individual tools or a set?  Also would appreciate specifics on which set or individual tools.  Right now I'm building a kit, but have plans to continue to scratch building with hardwoods.  I tend to purchase good quality tools so I was thinking of Pfeil or similar tools as appropriate ones.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

[Wahka_est]

Hi

 

Not sure what sizes you are looking but you maybe wanto to check this topic here: 

Vahur

 

 

[jimbyr]

Jeff

 

I use Two Cherries micro chisels

https://www.craftsmanstudio.com/Two-Cherries-Micro-Carving-Tool-Set6_p_353.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwr56IBhAvEiwA1fuqGgOwMvoBlyTXykDOBJExwO5mdlrDPqYwSPoq7x7BJIzHDHj2SWDn-hoCltAQAvD_BwE

 

And i also have this set from Lee Valley

 

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/carving-tools/gouges/47816-hirsch-micro-carving-tools?item=61S0015&utm_source=free_google_shopping&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=shopping_feed&gclid=CjwKCAjwr56IBhAvEiwA1fuqGus4E3_D77hTumBLfRIPwzYWPGiSwH8bzOB1bOwKsYabm2a9USn98hoCXGMQAvD_BwE

 

They are not palm chisels but are only 6" long and go down to .5mm and are excellent quality

 

Used them on this

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jimbyr]

Jeff

 

If you're interested in these I'll make you a list of the ones I use the most,  only about 5 of them

 

Jim

[TBlack]

Jim,

can you buy them individually, or do you buy the set?

Tom

[Jack12477]

35 minutes ago, TBlack said:

Jim,

can you buy them individually, or do you buy the set?

Tom

The Hirsch can be bought individually.  Lee Valley also has these sets of palm gouges

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/carving-tools/111761-palm-handle-basic-carving-set?item=57D0602

 

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/carving-tools/31121-henry-taylor-palm-set?item=58D9100

 

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/carving-tools/31106-u-j-ramelson-block-cutters?item=57D0102

 

[jimbyr]

Tom

 

Yes you can buy them individually

 

Jim

[jimbyr]

Tom

 

I bought both sets 5 years ago when they were 1/2 price.  Haven't seen it since

 

Jim

[Hsae]

Jeff,

 

Here are some more carving tools. I believe Fine Tools are shipping to the US, or you try to find these tools elsewhere in the US.

 

https://www.fine-tools.com/japcarv1.html

 

Hermann

[Boatsinc2000]

Hi Everyone and thanks for your replies.

 

Vahur, Thanks, I did see the thread on the Russian micro carving set started by Druxey and that was what got me interested in some additional tools and I may pursue that route.  Does anyone know if they are still available?

 

Jim, thanks for taking the time from your busy schedule to respond.  Great to see a pic of your Conny and your wonderful workmanship.  I've often wondered if you had continued that build.  If you wouldn't mind letting us know which ones that you use the most, that would be really helpful.  I'm tempted for both sets, but if you mainly use only 1/2 of them then that might be a little pricey at my skill level.

 

Jack and Hsae, thank you for helping out!  A lot of information for me to digest and I really appreciate your taking the time to help a novice.

 

Thanks, 

[Jaager]

Jeff,

 

The size of the chisel is determined by the job it is being used for.

Dockyard micro chisels are a size for decorative carvings - usually 17 century and first half of the 18th century.

For larger jobs there are FlesCut and UL Ramelson. 

FlexCut are not difficult to find.

Mountain Woodcarvers  sells both Dockyard and Ramelson.

This company is having a sale on factory seconds from Dockyard. 

 

UL Ramelson has a web site and individual chisels are available there.

 

It is a pain to wait and frustrating not to have what you need , when you need it.  The economical way would to get to a task, guess the size and shape of chisel needed and buy just those.  This advice that I cannot practice myself,

[Bob Cleek]

Making your own works, too. They probably won't be as nice as "store bought" ones, but the price is right. Everybody has a box full of old Allen wrenches and broken drill bit shanks.  See: how to make micro chisels - YouTube

[jimbyr]

Jeff

 

These are the ones I use most,  they are all Two Cherries

 

5303-10  1mm wide

5306-10  1 mm wide

5301-15  1.5 mm wide

5311-05  .5 mm wide

5339-15  1.5 mm wide

5311-10  1 mm wide

 

Jim

[Boatsinc2000]

Jim,

Thanks so much.  I'll probably pick them up.

I believe that they may have changed their numbering system, so after I receive the current model numbers from Larson, I'll post them here.

 

Thanks again! 

[Boatsinc2000]

Here's the response from Larson:

 

Hey ~ those are the manufacture part numbers  ~  I'll add our numbers to your list  ~ if you need anything further ~please let me know. 

 

5303-10  1mm wide  512-0310

5306-10  1 mm wide 512-0610

5301-15  1.5 mm wide 512-0115

5311-05  .5 mm wide 512-1105

5339-15  1.5 mm wide 512-3915

5311-10  1 mm wide -512-1110 

 

BTW the above is what is included in this set:  https://twocherriesusa.com/product/micro-carving-tool-set-of-6-octagonal-hornbeam-handle/

 

Thanks Jim!  

Edited August 5, 2021 by Boatsinc2000