New to boat building

[Newboats]

Hi all

 

i just got my 1st boat and it is a Billing mayflower  

 

anyone else doing the same boat?

[Keith Black]

 NB, welcome to MSW and congratulations. Good to have you aboard. There is a search function on the main page where you can search 'Mayflower' and see who maybe currently working on the same project or those who have worked on the same project in the past. 

[allanyed]

Welcome aboard!!!

 

If you do a little search here at MSW you will see other builds of this ship (it is not a boat) 😄,  including comments on the Billings kit materials and instructions in particular.   Take at look at the post https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18657-new-to-ship-modelling-but-what-do-you-build-first/?tab=comments#comment-573653 before jumping into your build.    Whether  you decide to stay with the Mayflower or decide to return it for a more appropriate first build,   spend some time reading up on the particular real ship you go with.   It usually adds to the enjoyment of the build as well as gaining an understanding and appreciation of the ship you choose.

 

Allan

Edited October 21, 2021 by allanyed

[Baker]

Welcome,

 

I found one Mayflower from Billing Boats

 

 

[Roger Pellett]

This assumes that you intend to build your Mayflower kit instead of first trying something simpler.

 

There are two Mayflowers, the one that brought the Pilgrims to the New World and the replica built in England in 1957 now docked at Plymouth Plantation.

 

All that is known about the original vessel is her tonnage (an approximate measure of her internal volume).  No pictures, drawings, etc. exist.

 

The replica was designed by William A. Baker, a Naval Architect employed by the shipbuilding division of Bethlehem Steel.  His avocation was researching ships of the American colonial period and he enjoyed writing about his findings.  

 

I would assume that your kit builds a model of Baker’s replica.  There are at least two books written by Baker describing his design and the process that he used to design her.  These books can be found on used book sites.  They will also include Baker’s plans for the ship.   Either would be a great supplement to the kit information.

 

Roger

 

 

[acaron41120]

Roger. Thanks for the info. I'll have to get one of the books. The plans in the kit leave a lot to be desired.

[mtaylor]

[Jim Lad]

Hello, and a warm welcome to MSW from 'Down Under'.

 

John

[AON]

Welcome to MSW from near Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada.

We were all new once.... and some of us still don't know what we are doing!

(that would be me more than half the time)

[Keith Black]

12 minutes ago, AON said:

and some of us still don't know what we are doing

 Alan, you talking to me? 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Keith Black

[mtaylor]

2 hours ago, Keith Black said:

 Alan, you talking to me? 

I thought it was me?   

[Jaager]

I have Baker's books and I made a start on building the Colonial Bark of 1640 as a way to approach Navy Board framing. It taught me that Duco was not a glue worth using on wood to wood that is subject to external shaping force, even if it would be easy to debond with acetone - a pity is that. 

 

ANYWAY - there is an article in NRJ  by David Antscherl that makes a convincing argument Wm Baker was way off in his assumptions and direction when he designed Mayflower II.

 

NRJ  V.58 No.4  Winter 2013   A New Interpretation of a Merchantman, circa 1600 by David Antscherl

 

I would suggest staying far way from any Mayflower kit  unless it is the Mayflower II replica that you wish to model.

It is not really a realistic choice for a first kit unless some form of fine woodworking is in your background.

You should probably read the first two posts in this forum for a map and cold shower about what your new path involves

 

I do not wish to come across as a judge or any sort of official with the following.  Take this as a friendly and well meant suggestion should you wish to be taken seriously.

The word 'boat' defines a very specific type of watercraft. 

The word 'ship'  also defines a specific type of large vessel although it is often stretched to include large vessels that are technically not ships.

But boat and ship are not interchangeable .   Doing so here tends to rub fur the wrong way.  In your place, I would edit by post title from boat to ship as well as in the text of post 1.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Jaager