Newboats Posted October 21, 2021 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2021 Hi all i just got my 1st boat and it is a Billing mayflower anyone else doing the same boat? Keith Black and ccoyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted October 21, 2021 Share #2 Posted October 21, 2021 NB, welcome to MSW and congratulations. Good to have you aboard. There is a search function on the main page where you can search 'Mayflower' and see who maybe currently working on the same project or those who have worked on the same project in the past. mtaylor and allanyed 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted October 21, 2021 Share #3 Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Welcome aboard!!! If you do a little search here at MSW you will see other builds of this ship (it is not a boat) 😄, including comments on the Billings kit materials and instructions in particular. Take at look at the post https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18657-new-to-ship-modelling-but-what-do-you-build-first/?tab=comments#comment-573653 before jumping into your build. Whether you decide to stay with the Mayflower or decide to return it for a more appropriate first build, spend some time reading up on the particular real ship you go with. It usually adds to the enjoyment of the build as well as gaining an understanding and appreciation of the ship you choose. Allan Edited October 21, 2021 by allanyed mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted October 21, 2021 Share #4 Posted October 21, 2021 Welcome, I found one Mayflower from Billing Boats mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted October 21, 2021 Share #5 Posted October 21, 2021 This assumes that you intend to build your Mayflower kit instead of first trying something simpler. There are two Mayflowers, the one that brought the Pilgrims to the New World and the replica built in England in 1957 now docked at Plymouth Plantation. All that is known about the original vessel is her tonnage (an approximate measure of her internal volume). No pictures, drawings, etc. exist. The replica was designed by William A. Baker, a Naval Architect employed by the shipbuilding division of Bethlehem Steel. His avocation was researching ships of the American colonial period and he enjoyed writing about his findings. I would assume that your kit builds a model of Baker’s replica. There are at least two books written by Baker describing his design and the process that he used to design her. These books can be found on used book sites. They will also include Baker’s plans for the ship. Either would be a great supplement to the kit information. Roger mtaylor, Baker and Keith Black 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acaron41120 Posted October 21, 2021 Share #6 Posted October 21, 2021 Roger. Thanks for the info. I'll have to get one of the books. The plans in the kit leave a lot to be desired. Roger Pellett, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Allen Current Builds: Mayflower - 1:60; Golden Hind - 1:50 Past Builds: Marie Jeanne, Bluenose, Bluenose II, Oseberg, Roar Ege, Waiting to Build: Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 21, 2021 Share #7 Posted October 21, 2021 Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 21, 2021 Share #8 Posted October 21, 2021 Hello, and a warm welcome to MSW from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted October 21, 2021 Share #9 Posted October 21, 2021 Welcome to MSW from near Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. We were all new once.... and some of us still don't know what we are doing! (that would be me more than half the time) Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted October 21, 2021 Share #10 Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AON said: and some of us still don't know what we are doing Alan, you talking to me? Edited October 21, 2021 by Keith Black AON, mtaylor, Baker and 1 other 2 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 22, 2021 Share #11 Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Keith Black said: Alan, you talking to me? I thought it was me? Keith Black and Baker 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted October 22, 2021 Share #12 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) I have Baker's books and I made a start on building the Colonial Bark of 1640 as a way to approach Navy Board framing. It taught me that Duco was not a glue worth using on wood to wood that is subject to external shaping force, even if it would be easy to debond with acetone - a pity is that. ANYWAY - there is an article in NRJ by David Antscherl that makes a convincing argument Wm Baker was way off in his assumptions and direction when he designed Mayflower II. NRJ V.58 No.4 Winter 2013 A New Interpretation of a Merchantman, circa 1600 by David Antscherl I would suggest staying far way from any Mayflower kit unless it is the Mayflower II replica that you wish to model. It is not really a realistic choice for a first kit unless some form of fine woodworking is in your background. You should probably read the first two posts in this forum for a map and cold shower about what your new path involves I do not wish to come across as a judge or any sort of official with the following. Take this as a friendly and well meant suggestion should you wish to be taken seriously. The word 'boat' defines a very specific type of watercraft. The word 'ship' also defines a specific type of large vessel although it is often stretched to include large vessels that are technically not ships. But boat and ship are not interchangeable . Doing so here tends to rub fur the wrong way. In your place, I would edit by post title from boat to ship as well as in the text of post 1. Edited October 22, 2021 by Jaager mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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