HMS Beagle by Patrick - OcCre - 1/60

[Patrick B]

Thanks RossR, my moto is:

 

Why lose your time practicing, when you can just take your time over one great project.

 

By myself, (I think)

[Patrick B]

Hi guys, its been a while. I made the "anchor's rubbing protection" ?, as well the anchor chain holes we mentionned earlier. I glued the sleeping bags, the sides and the little design triangles.

After that, I hand painted the whole thing. I am very happy with the "water line" ?, because instead of using tape, which could potentially leak, I freehanded it. In my opinion, it couldn't have been better with tape.

To finish off, I glued on the catheads.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Patrick B]

The bow's decorations are finished. They where hard to do, because of the curves and the end loops you had to give the brass rods.

Speaking of them, as some mentionned in their build logs before, this kit doesn't have enough of 1 mm rods. I just commander them, and by occre's police, they should be free of charges. I don't know if there are other material issues you have encountered. If yes, let me know.

 

 

 

After that, I painted the barge and the stern.

 

 

[RossR]

Great work on the bow.   I struggled with that on mine.  Yours looks fantastic.  
 

I remember being short on one size of wood on my Beagle, I think it was the 2x4 mm sapelli  and Occre sent more no questions asked.   I made a mistake on my Diana and they even replaced those parts.   It does take 2-3 weeks to get the replacement/missing items shipped from Spain to the US, so be ready for the wait if you are in the US.  

[The Gimps Chimp]

Hi Patrick, 

 

Your build is coming along well and is looking great. 

 

Regarding kit materials I've found them to be variable.  The timber for the first and second planking I had enough to build two kits.  As you say, the brass wire is limited.  The 0.7mm brass eyelet (part B ) was in short supply so I got some brass wire from Amazon for a couple of pounds and made my own.  There are a couple of instances where you have to open up the eyelet to join it to chain and I found the one's supplied with my kit weren't malleable enough and would snap.  The one's I made from wire were fine.

 

Regards, Chimp

[Patrick B]

Hi, its been a long time.

In the meantime I ordered 5 more brass rods, which weren't the right size. Luckily, occre agreed to send me an other package, for free.

 

 

While waiting, I drilled the holes for the nails of the keel (is that the word? ), which turned out pretty good. The hard part was to carefully bend the sides to fit the curvature of the stern.

 

 

 

Next, I made the windows from leftover wood, because the kit supplied one woudn't fit, because of how flat they where. They still servent as a good guide, to get the size right. I then bended and glued the metal decoration piece.

 

 

 

To finish of, I drilled and glued the eyebolts arount the mast hole. I think I might have placed the one at the left a bit too close to the one beside it. After that, I started the trapdoors.

 

 

 

bye guys, until next time. I will try to post more often.

[Auger]

Nice work with the eyebolts. 

[Cathead]

21 hours ago, Patrick B said:

I drilled the holes for the nails of the keel (is that the word? ),

Since you asked, technically, the part you're referring to is the sternpost. The keel is just the horizontal beam at the very bottom of the hull, while the sternpost is the vertical(ish) member that supports the rudder.

[Patrick B]

Hi everybody, some progress has been made during the holidays, and more is to come. The central trap doors are finished, as well as a crank, wich I still don't know the use. Since the pins where too far forward, I had to glue it at the back. I also covered the feet with a mahagony veneer I curved around, making them much better looking than the naked plywood.

 

 

I forgot last time to show you the bow figure, wich I painted with gold testor enamel paint.

 

 

Then came the chainplates, very fastidius to make the end loops. I invented a method to glue the beam over all at once, consisting of placing a wedge under the cutting mat to elevate the deadeyes. 

 

 

I haven't nailed them to the hull yet, I am waiting to place the mast in, to align them with it.

 

At first, I hadn't realise that the 3 deadeyes at the stern where supposed to be the small size. I realized that a bit too late. I had to open them and replace them. Now nobody could notice that this mistake was made.

 

 

I attached some blocks to eyebolts on the deck, but made a small mistake. For one of them, the hole was upside down. I managed to take it out of the loop and put it back, without loosening the loop too much I think.

 

 

 

The last part where the gun ports. I took some scrap 2 x 5 wood and oiled it to match the inner sides. I covered them with mahagony and painted them. I glued the hinges a bit off the center, to give the impression of real hinges. This is why I also added a small x-acto line to simulate a 2 part organ. You better be carefull with those, as they fly off tweezers easily and they give you only the exact amount necessary.

 

 

 

I did a 90 degrees bend, to compensate with the loss of space caused by the deadeyes placement.

 

 

To finish off, I read somewhere that the gun port at the bow was only painted, to make it seem like they had more canons than they really had. In fact, it lines up with nothing, this door leads to a wall. Maybe this isn't true, I don't know.

 

 

 

I do not remember showing some pictures of, well, those. I don't remember the name of the entrances. I know some people put staircase on the hull that lead to them but occre doesn't seem to make us put them. Anyways, I glued mahagony strips there to cover the layer of the sides.

 

 

 

 

One last thing, do you guys know how the canons on the HMS Beagle where rigged to the deck. Altough occre shows a way, it doesn't convince me that this was the way. Otherwise they would be moving back and forth on these ropes.

 

 

 

Thank you all again for following me on this journey.

[Patrick B]

Hi guys, last post I forgot to show you the method I used to make the end loops easily for the deadeyes.

 

 

while holding the pin vise, I take to tweezers with my free hand to form the loop around an upsidedown drill bit the size wanted for the loop.

[Cathead]

On 12/29/2023 at 6:19 PM, Patrick B said:

One last thing, do you guys know how the canons on the HMS Beagle where rigged to the deck. Altough occre shows a way, it doesn't convince me that this was the way. Otherwise they would be moving back and forth on these ropes.

Companies like this don't care much about accurate details or rigging. That's a ludicrous way to lash down a cannon. One option would be to rig them at the gunports like any normal naval cannon. Guns could also be tightly lashed sideways, as in a severe storm or just for a ship that really didn't intend to need them very often (like Beagle). I went looking for a diagram for you and had some trouble, but this post on MSW shows one possible way to do it (click the link to see the drawing; the third illustration is what you're looking for).

 

 

[Snug Harbor Johnny]

  Patrick, looking at your series of photos got me thinking on yet another way to strop a block to an eye ...  It seemed to work on a 4mm test block - it is an OcCre block that I worked on just a little to enlarge the hole and round the corners to make it look better.  The line was made with Chuck's 'Rope Rocket' and just 3 strands of brown Gutterman poly sewing thread.  'Could have used tan, but the batch was for Vasa to be rigged in brown.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Snug Harbor Johnny

[Patrick B]

Thanks a lot Cathead, like you I struggled to find a diagram that put the canons parralel to the sides, like showed occre. This will be helpfull I'm sure.

 

I thanks Snug Harbor Johnny too for his idea, although these many twists seem harder than the half hitch I use.

 

I would like to use the most accurate knots in rigging my ship, but I struggle a lot with holding the knot itself, the working end and the block I'm trying to seize. Inevitably, I release one of the above, having only two hands. I cross my fingers that nothing will slip out of place and, with good luck I'm sometimes able to finish the knot.

[Patrick B]

Small update here is a beam that will next be glued on the poop deck. The bend on the CNC machined plywood part was not fitting with my version of the ship. I tried straightening it But it broke in 2 different places. So I replaced it with some leftover wood.  Even after putting it in hot water it wouldn't bend. I decided to cut some slots to facilitate the process and mitigate the risk of breakage.

 

 

In the end, I glued a small veneer strip from leftover wood to cover the holes.

 

 

A bonus of that is that when I will dye it, it will come out the same color as the strips on the side, as it is the same wood as opposed to the plywood part.

 

I hope you guys had a merry holiday filled with time in the shipyard !

[JFMJr]

Hello Patrick... My first build..Just starting the HMS Beagle...very helpful following build logs like yours. Looks great

[Patrick B]

On 1/12/2024 at 10:27 AM, JFMJr said:

Hello Patrick... My first build..Just starting the HMS Beagle...very helpful following build logs like yours. Looks great

 

Hi JFMJr, I'm happy to hear that my build log will be helpfull. Feel free to ask me questions, but keep in mind that this is my first ship, so I'm in no way an expert. Your planking looks neat, are you planning on making a build log? It still not too late. 

[JFMJr]

Have had a lot of bad weather here in the mountains... Left time to work on the ship. Made good progress. Trying to figure out what wood sealer to use on the hull...

[Patrick B]

Hi guys, I have a question before gluing a piece in place. Do you know what was the purpose of the beam with a hole in it? I know it has two metal loops to attach some chain, but the hole seem a good place to put a flag pole. The instructions don't show you its purpose and I can't find anything on the internet. I'm sure someone here knows what it is, the time period associated with it, the history of it's name and the specific hole dimensions haha.

 

 

 

Thanks, Patrick B

[Cathead]

The eyes on that piece are where they eventually suspend the anchor chains from (via some rope loops), but darned if I can tell why the wooden post has a hole in it. Can't be for a flagstaff, that would directly interfere with the rigging plan.

[DonSangria]

According to th AOTS-Book of the Beagle, it actually is for a flagstaff. It was probably only rigged in port and not when under sail.

[JFMJr]

Love to see a current picture of your build.

[DonSangria]

She is nearly finished. I plan to upload a gallery with pictures, hopefully soon😊

[DonSangria]

I finally found time to upload some pictures here:

 

 

Edited February 26 by DonSangria

[Patrick B]

Hi, I haven't posted in some time.

 

This is due to me procrastinating when I should take photos. In the last weeks, I worked on many different small thing on the deck. They didn't seem like worthwhile to make à post about. But when you add them up together, it makes a good chunk to show and talk about.

 

First, I made the rails with eyebolts and rope. It was quite tricky to get the knot at the right place for it to be tight. I also glued the back catheads after removing the char and making pulley holes in them. 

 

 

 

Then, I secured the launch to to deck, and I'm pretty happy about how that turned out. I was unsure about the rope placement after its knot to the eyebolt. I could have done concentric rings of leftover rope, but it looked weird. I chose to leave it clean after the knot.

 

 

 

 As you might already have seen through the earlier photos, I made all the ladders, but I opted to leave them unpainted. I find it too Tricky to paint in all those tiny areas between the steps and I felt like this brass color fits the overall deck ensemble pretty well.

 

After that, I focused on the water pumps. I wanted to give an iron look but I failed and it looks too shiny and plastic. Still, it doesn't look too bad.

 

 

 

To finish off, I nailed the chain plates along the sides. To do that I placed temporarly the masts to get their angle right.

 

 

 

I almost forgot, I also installed the chains at the stern, which drove me crazy. They were so fiddly and kept jumping off from my twizzers.  I lost 3 links and for a good 20 minutes I thought the carpet monster had stolen them but after a while, I found them at the complete opposite side of the room where I thought they were.  Those efforts were rewarded because in the end,  they look great.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for following along guys. The next update will be about the storage compartments on the deck and maybe something else.

 

Patrick

[brunnels]

Looks great, fantastic work. 

[Capella]

Looks great, Patrick. 

 

You put the alignment of the deadeyes on my chainplates to shame! 😉

 

(I too have made a decent amount of progress, but have been too lazy to post it here recently) 

Edited March 12 by Capella

[Patrick B]

Good evening everybody, I forgot to post in some while, but progress has happened in the mean time. I did the small houses on the deck, with great care to adjust the planks that cover them. The contours have received particular attention, so that the ends match up with the thicker plank around. 

 

 

 

You may have spotted a new crank, which I plan on passing a rope through, with a simulated lead weight to its end. I struggled on finding a reference for that, so if anyone out there knows how this was done, let me know. I painted and glued to the deck the two small pillards, not sure about their name.

 

 

I have painted and glued the anchors too. They are glued with CA, but I am not sure if they will hold up with even a small tension on the ropes.

 

 

The chains on those where so finicky, I think their installment took me 2h, and I lost one link to the carpet monster in the process. Just like the back chains, I counted the number of links so that they sag the same way.

 

Of course, you may have seen already bits of masts here and there. They are finished, the beams will come soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were some beads I had to nail to the mast, not sure how historically acurate this is, but it does look good.

 

 

I broke the tip of it while pushing the nail in. With the hole in the middle and the size of the tip, it wasn't a surprise.

 

 

I think they are pretty straight. Seeing them aligned this way made me think of Ulysse's Odyssey feat where they align 12 axes and he had to shoot an arrow through them.

 

 

The three pins were difficult to align this way, and it might not look like at this distance, but they are quite close. Putting a knot through them will be a problem for futur me though.

 

Sanding the char off these pieces was a pain, and breaking these delicate edges was unavoidable. Luckily, from afar it doesn't look too bad.

 

 

 

 

 

I glued all the mast with wood glue, as its long drying time gave me enough time to align the in the best way I could. 

 

I will finish the beams before starting the rigging, unless one of you knows a better order to follow for the shipwright to not contravene with previous installments.

 

See you soon next time,

 

Patrick B.

[Snug Harbor Johnny]

  I love the bead at the mast top !  ... something I'll copy later.  Now you are embarking on the "other" half of building the model ... the rigging.  Have you considered using scale rope?  Several sizes and colors are easily available and can really make rigging look sharp (way less fuzz and realistic look).  Some builders also run kit blocks a few seconds in a block sander to 'round' the sharp edges somewhat, as well as use a fine drill to be sure the through hole is clear for ease of rigging ... or consider Syren blocks as an upgrade.

[Cathead]

Yay, I'm glad you haven't stopped on this. Great progress.

[Patrick B]

I did consider it Snug Harbor Johnny, but I would like to make my first model at least with the kit ropes, in order to make my own idea out of it. If I haven't worked with bad ropes, I won't apreciate as much third party scale rope. I intend to buy some for my next project, perhaps HMS victory if Amati ever releases it. Or else Maris Stella seems to have impressive material quality. I liked Occre although their rigging plans left to be desired, so the Santisima Trinidad and the Endeavour remain good options. The best ones would be the Sphinx or Indefatigable by Vanguard, with their extremely detailed plans. I always redrill the blocks with a 0,5mm hand drill, but I don't want to sand them in a tumbler, because they would loose their shine and be uneven. I wouldn't want to risk it.