src Posted July 10, 2014 Share #811 Posted July 10, 2014 Rich, I have been told the same thing about hammocks. Sam HIPEXEC 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 10, 2014 Share #812 Posted July 10, 2014 The hammocks were used to help protect from snipers. splinters and falling rigging. More men were killed from these than anything else. David B augie and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 10, 2014 Share #813 Posted July 10, 2014 Including Admiral Lord Nelson! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share #814 Posted July 10, 2014 Anchor chain or line? Constructo shows I should use line to attach the anchor to the ship, while the USS Constitution in Boston has chain. I like the look of chain...what do you think? Of course I'll use line between the block and cathead. Aussie048, canoe21, MarisStella.hr and 2 others 5 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 10, 2014 Share #815 Posted July 10, 2014 If you have the proper chain, and that's what you like ----- why not? HIPEXEC 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 10, 2014 Share #816 Posted July 10, 2014 It depends on the period you are going for. My understanding was the Connie in 1812 had lines rather than chain for the anchors. In "The Anatomy of a ship: The 44-Gun Frigate Old Ironsides" it said that the anchor in 1812 was connected by a strong hemp line. The anchor chain was introduced into the British Navy in 1817 and Humphery's papers do not indicate there was any use of chain yet. Not sure when the chains were introduced to the Connie. HIPEXEC and mtdoramike 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted July 10, 2014 Share #817 Posted July 10, 2014 The stern look great. I would sand down the anchor collars a bit though they look a bit beefy. I would go with rope. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share #818 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Augie, It didn't help that Nelson wore his full dress uniform with all decorations......kind of like a juicy target for snipers. Edited July 12, 2014 by Hipexec MEDDO and augie 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share #819 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Here's one of my experiments for hammock nets and stanchions. It's the strongest of all my experimenting since it stanchions are pinned deeply into the top rails. My other attempts were weak since the stanchions were just glued. Edited July 12, 2014 by Hipexec Aussie048 and WackoWolf 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share #820 Posted July 12, 2014 Constructo gives me some pins with very large loops at the top to make handrails. I've never seem handrails with these very big loopes to hold rope much smaller. With this experiment I glued (CA) line to pins. I'm not sure I like this either. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 12, 2014 Share #821 Posted July 12, 2014 You might consider making the rails themselves out of wire? src, HIPEXEC, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share #822 Posted July 13, 2014 The quality of Constructo's stanchions and cleats is poor. The brass pin is their version of a rail stanchion. Pretty puny. The small cleat in my photo is constructo's cleat which is poor quality. There's too much over flash and the parting lines are terrible and difficult to file flat and even. The dark cleat came with my Artesiania Latina Swift and is excellent quality. Any ideas where I can get good accessories? Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 13, 2014 Share #823 Posted July 13, 2014 I tried to find a source for cleats and even emailed Mamoli. Their cleats were great, but I had just enough. I was concerned if I broke one I would be screwed. No one was able to tell me where I could find any replacements. The 1:93 scale makes it a bit difficult. Hopefully you will not be as challenged with your scale. There were a number of threads where people built their own cleats that looked good. That was going to be my fall back position if I needed to find anymore since I never heard anything back from Mamoli. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share #824 Posted July 13, 2014 It's funny...Constructo provides excellent looking wood with a great wood layout for true beauty, but all the metal parts and little extras are of very poor quality. I do not want to put these on this ship. It's too nice to hang junk on it. I'll have to go shopping. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 13, 2014 Share #825 Posted July 13, 2014 I understand totally. When I was creating the deck furniture there were a number of Mamoli fittings I threw out and made myself because I thought they were not up to the quality I was aiming for. I know you will be able to find or produce what you need. I have seen your work! HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share #826 Posted July 13, 2014 While I'm shopping for high quality parts, I'm starting deck gun production. Constructo does not show any block and tackle...only lines attaching the guns, so I'll have to design a more realistic set up. I'll be looking at all your gun rigs so I can copy them. Constructo give me a lot of raw wood that I have to cut to size. At least the barrels are made. robnbill 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #827 Posted July 13, 2014 Rich, Have you thought about making your own cleats? Floyd Kershner has a neat little method for making them: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1906-wooden-cleats/ HIPEXEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #828 Posted July 13, 2014 Rich, Take a look at some of the MS Constitution build logs for ideas for rigging guns. Also, Chuck Passaro makes some awfully nice blocks. . . Hope that helps, Thanks, Harvey HIPEXEC and Aussie048 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 14, 2014 Share #829 Posted July 14, 2014 I second Chuck's blocks. I bought the blocks and line from Chuck to rig my guns. He also was nice enough to review a photo of my planned rigging and gave me some great feedback. Looking at the photos you put in from your instructions it also appears that you may want to solder a ring to the top end of the carronades for the breeching line. I added it to mine. The two bow chasers were rigged with the breeching line wrapped around and seized to the cascabel per the AOS. I will have to say I was VERY happy once I got all of my cannon rigged and on the ship. Happy day! Aussie048, capnharv2 and HIPEXEC 3 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share #830 Posted July 14, 2014 Thanks for all the tips....now I'll have to start to work on them. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 14, 2014 Share #831 Posted July 14, 2014 You might also wish to consider not attaching the lines to a common eyebolt on the bulwark. robnbill and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 14, 2014 Share #832 Posted July 14, 2014 That is an interesting point. I did not use the common eyebolt and wondered if I should have. Water under the bridge for me at this point. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share #833 Posted July 16, 2014 Progress in my shipyard is slowed while I try to fabricate, invent, purchase, or...... cleats, hammock stanchions, deck rails and cannons. Constructo drops the ball here and I only want stuff as good as what I see on all your ships. On top of this, my Admiral insists we leave this Arizona heat for a week, so we're heading for the beaches of Cancun. We'll be leaving Saturday. Aussie048 and src 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted July 16, 2014 Share #834 Posted July 16, 2014 Enjoy your trip Rich. Sam HIPEXEC 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted July 16, 2014 Share #835 Posted July 16, 2014 Have a great time in Cancun! HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 16, 2014 Share #836 Posted July 16, 2014 Have fun. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share #837 Posted July 16, 2014 Goeff is right...I never stop thinking about my ship. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 16, 2014 Share #838 Posted July 16, 2014 Enjoy the trip. I'll bet you come home with 2 good ideas for the ship! HIPEXEC 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted July 16, 2014 Share #839 Posted July 16, 2014 The cleats you show in the photo from Constructo aren't all that bad. They look decent. Any material you use will require some finishing like filing or sanding. Once installed and line wrapped around them, you won't really notice them. So if push comes to shove, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 16, 2014 Share #840 Posted July 16, 2014 I would have to agree. I have seen worse cleats over the years. Once cleaned up and painted they would probably work out well. If not you can make your own from a piece of boxwood or apple. David B HIPEXEC 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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