Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted January 31, 2023 #1 Posted January 31, 2023 Hello, My friend wants to work on an ocean liner project together, and I'm getting a few ideas. I'd like to avoid the ubiquitous Titanic, and probably want to go with some of the larger, later ships like the Queen Mary, Normandie, or such. Or the Imperator Class (later Berengaria, Majestic, and Leviathon). Does anyone know of any such large ocean liner kits available in card or, suitable plans to build from? I will rescale whatever I build to 1/700 and possibly 3D print most of the tiny parts. - Meriadoc mtaylor 1 Quote
DavidG Posted January 31, 2023 #2 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) try to browse the scalemates database, there are several ocean liner kits out there, while I know very little of them. Passenger ships (Ships) | Scalemates Edited January 31, 2023 by DavidG Meriadoc Brandybuck and mtaylor 2 Quote Past builds: Prins Willem, Amati Coca Current Build: Occre Diana
ccoyle Posted January 31, 2023 #3 Posted January 31, 2023 JSC, Schreiber-Bogen, and HMV are the publishers that come immediately to my mind when thinking of ocean liner kits. Canute, Meriadoc Brandybuck and mtaylor 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
amateur Posted January 31, 2023 #4 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Scaldis has some nice ones also. or Wilhelmshafener: https://www.papermod.com/D-Shop-23/contents/de/d8.html Jan Edited January 31, 2023 by amateur mtaylor, Canute, Meriadoc Brandybuck and 1 other 4 Quote
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted January 31, 2023 #5 Posted January 31, 2023 As a teen, I made a dandy model of the liner United States out of paper that was about 2 1/2 feet long. With everything I made in those years, there is no notion what happened to it (other than a parent 'cleaning house' while I was away). I went to a dock on the Philadelphia waterfront some years ago to see the once-proud liner moored, neglected and showing rust. 'Guess with everything already stripped from her - as well as all the asbestos still inside - it turned out to be cost prohibitive to get her ship-shape to cruise again. People game for cruising prefer those mega 'love boats' afloat these days. mtaylor, Canute and Meriadoc Brandybuck 3 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
GrandpaPhil Posted January 31, 2023 #6 Posted January 31, 2023 Taubman’s has ocean liner plans. If you follow the links for card model sales sites in the Intro To Card Modeling thread, there are multiple liners. Meriadoc Brandybuck, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
shipman Posted January 31, 2023 #7 Posted January 31, 2023 Airfix had a nice range of 1:600 kits, including 'Mauretania', 'Queen Elizabeth', 'QE2', SS Canberra', SS France', possibly others? Meriadoc Brandybuck, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
Roger Pellett Posted February 1, 2023 #8 Posted February 1, 2023 United States was built with a healthy subsidy from the US Government, that required her to be fitted with a power plant to propel her at speeds higher than required for a normal TransAtlantic passenger liner. Her top speed was a classified military secret that I don’t believe has ever been revealed. State of the art for a high speed marine propulsion plant at the time of her launch was high pressure (600-900 psi) steam turning steam turbines. State of the art marine engineering for new cruise ships is “all electric;”. Large Diesel engines generating electricity. Electricity is then dispatched to operate electric propulsion motors and to satisfy the huge hotel loads. Even if United States could be cleaned up, her propulsion plant would be uneconomical to operate and probability expensive to replace. This assumes that a crew could be found that would be qualified to operate it. Roger Meriadoc Brandybuck, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote
Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted February 1, 2023 Author #9 Posted February 1, 2023 Thanks for all the information! I see there is a Vaterland and several other offerings in the paper market, and lots of plans. I've known about the Airfix liners and built several of their warship kits in high school, but now everything comparable I have is in 1/700... I'll have to do some thinking. Cheers! Meriadoc mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted February 1, 2023 Author #10 Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Roger Pellett said: Even if United States could be cleaned up, her propulsion plant would be uneconomical to operate and probability expensive to replace. This assumes that a crew could be found that would be qualified to operate it. Still somewhat uplifting that that they haven't scrapped her. Maybe they're keeping her in mothball in case they ever do need a rapid fireproof transport. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
Roger Pellett Posted February 1, 2023 #11 Posted February 1, 2023 The Steam plants in the Iowa Class Battleships are similar to that in the United States. Several of these were brought out of mothballs in the 1980’s as part of the Regan era navy buildup. The cost to return their power plants to operating condition was major. The condition of United States’ power plant today is probably much worse and costs to restore it would be huge. It is also possible that some repair material and replacement equipment is unavailable. As the ultimate in ocean liner design she was a beautiful ship, but her days are long past. Roger Canute, Meriadoc Brandybuck and mtaylor 3 Quote
Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted February 2, 2023 Author #12 Posted February 2, 2023 Hello, After some discussion, enthusiasm was found for building the Aquitania! ...if anyone can find a good set of lines plans for her frames. Nothing on Google or Taubman's that I can find. I thought of using the available deck plans to reverse engineer the hull shape, but that's an iffy prospect likely to cause many headaches. Anyone know anything I don't? Appreciating the help, Meriadoc mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
Papa Posted October 26, 2023 #13 Posted October 26, 2023 It is kind of late for my two cents worth, but JSC has a United States that I have almost completed. GrandpaPhil, Meriadoc Brandybuck, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote
Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted October 27, 2023 Author #14 Posted October 27, 2023 17 hours ago, Papa said: JSC has a United States Hello, your United States is looking good. I did discover the JSC kits. I understand they are all waterline kits. Do they include plans or parts for below the waterline as well? Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
Papa Posted October 27, 2023 #15 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) My only experience is with the United States. And it is a waterline model. To be clear about your question: no plans or parts below the waterline Edited October 28, 2023 by Papa Canute, Meriadoc Brandybuck and mtaylor 3 Quote
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