Revenge 1577 by Loracs - Amati - 1:64

[Baker]

Did it on my main and fore mast this way.

[Loracs]

@Baker  Thanks for the pictures...  I like it a lot!  thanks

[Loracs]

Off topic:  The collection of Lecouvie-Dery du Quebec.  Model ship in Ivory. Very interesting.  I may try to see it once of those day.

 

 

[Loracs]

hello all, with the heat wave here... I'm making very slow progress.  I hope to come back with few update pictures soon.

[Loracs]

Hello all, I fixed some of the issues mentioned before.  I could not tie the rope to the lower block because the shrouds are in the way now... but, like @Baker to the deck rail, which pretty much solved the issue.  

 

Second, I then complete the shrouds to the bow. I'm working my way to the Mizzen and Bonaventure shrouds, which are incomplete for now.  Slowly but steadily.

 

 

[Knocklouder]

Those are very impressive,  I wish I could do that.  Nice work   

Bob M.

[Loracs]

@Knocklouder, thank.  Believe me, if I can do it, you most certainly can.  Only a matter of time and pacing yourself.  Of course, all the tips and know-how found here are quite helpful too.  There is nothing more useful than seeing people's logs.

[Baker]

Nice work  👍

[Loracs]

Futtock-staves and catharpins: With all the lower shrouds completed, it was time to tackle the futtock-staves and catharpins.  What a pain... at least for me.   I tried doing it with blocks but with so many knots, it is quite difficult to adjust.  The second approach (which may not be quite right for the Revenge) was to do the catharpins as described by Boubriot.  It involved treading a single rope between the futtock staves.  It looks easier on paper than done.

 

After several trials and failings, I settled on a variant.  Rather than having two passes every second shroud, I alternate 1-2, in a single pass.  It just holds in place better for me without constant adjustment.  The end result is a trapezoid pattern rather than a parallel layout.  After working several days on that...  I decided to just keep it.  Not perfect but it worked, move to the second one and be done with this.   Please pardon the deviation.

 

 

 

Edited July 17 by Loracs

[Loracs]

Mainstay Collar: Amati provided little information on how to anchor the mainstay.  Lennarth Petersson drawings (Rigging period ship model) were used as a reference.  A 2mm rope, the same size as the mainstay, was served and attached through the hole in the bow.

 

 

Edited July 19 by Loracs

[Loracs]

Ratlines and Stays: Starting to work on the ratlines.  Not as difficult as anticipated but... it will take a while.  A few everyday while doing other things. It is still quite hot middays, which limits my time.   Note: dark ratlines, rather than tan, were a choice based on preference.  I just did not like the tan... too much contrast.

 

The 2mm main and fore stays are quite big when compared to the ratlines.  The pendant/loop is made by incorporating a block into the cable before serving.  Here a before and after.

 

 

 

Edited July 26 by Loracs

[Loracs]

Was about to post progress on the Revenge but found a small mistake.  When I set-up the Stays, I pass-through the stays through the space that the secondary masts will sit ... obviously the masts do not fit anymore.  The STAYS had to be taken down.  No room for mistake there, it simply won't fit otherwise.  Luckily, it is just a matter of cutting the sizing and doing it again, passing the rope through the outer edge.  Dry fit ok now.

 

Beside this... more of the same - ratlines.  Knots 400 of ~1600.

 

Two steps forward, one step backward...  there are days like that!

 

Edited August 4 by Loracs

[Loracs]

Shrouds and Stays: Except for the front one (rigging blues), all shrouds and stays are installed.  This is a very slow process for me.  It looks straightforward but it is not always... and somewhat lengthy.  Here's what it looks like:

 

Ropes: all ropes are made using a ropewalk, 15 feet at a time. A range at 0.25, 0.5, 0.65, 0.75, 1, 1.2 and 2mm (light or dark), it adds up fast. However, I keep running out of ropes of any given size, which means that I'm doing them often.

 

Serving: All first shrouds are served to full length. It's especially important to serve the end of the shrouds around the topmasts (crow's nest).  Serving makes the rope very rigid, so it does NOT compress as you add one on top of each other.  Similarly, all blocks attached to masts/cables are served too (not quite sure if they were actually done that way).

 

Rope to length: Installing the rope is ok but it has to be sized to length on the ship before finishing.  I usually set them a good 1cm shorter, since they stretch while installing.  I like to have good tension when possible.

 

Ratlines:  so many to do.

 

Finally, I'm getting "Rigging Burn-out": Can't do too much at a time without making mistakes.  Planning on taking a short break before starting on the spars... those look quite tricky to install.

 

Edited August 17 by Loracs

[Baker]

Nice work 

[MikkiC]

She is beautiful. I very much enjoyed reading your log, and the pics are amazing. Can't wait for the updates.

[Loracs]

Stand: It is time to get back to "The Revenge" after some time off building a Greek bireme.  It's difficult to come back since I left off with only a fifth of the ratlines done. I have to say that this is not my preferred activity... by far.

 

For a change of pace, and to work with wood again, I decided to tackle the stand.  Got some pretty wood pieces and got to work.  I want a solid and heavy base for such a large ship.  The bulk is handmade using a simple design, incorporating a few pieces from the kit.

 

I may not do another update until the ratlines are done... which will take a while.  In addition there are the coming holidays.  Here it is, the stand:

 

Note:  I am having still few additional transversals with the ship picture.  Forgot, those are extra for later if i ever need them final (not glue).

 

 

 

Edited December 6 by Loracs

[Knocklouder]

What a great looking ship, and heading onto the holidays with a load of ratlines to do, it will be the best holiday ever 😀. 

  Good luck, and have a wonderful holiday. 

Bob  M.           

[kirill4]

Good day,

She looks great! Very nice work!

Some remarks - laniard color , consider they used to be good tared , and color should be dark, same as shrouds colors, and while You are busy with ratlines, I hope You to take care about their thicknest, often we could see that people made them too thick/ oversised and thus ruining overal impression of the fitted shrouds ...and color of the ratlines - need to be the same as shrouds as well...

All The Best!

Kirill

A few pictures of modern replicas - where we could see how triangle deadeyes fitted correctly and laniards tared as well - Mayflower, Duyfken, Half Moen

 

 

Edited December 5 by kirill4

[Loracs]

Hello Kirill4, fantastic pictures.  I did not know that the lanyard/shroud color.  Great information.  Not sure I can fix easily now.  

 

About the ratlines, at this scale 1:64, I'm using only 3-ply treats - the smallest I have. I did want to be very thin.

[Loracs]

@Knocklouder  LOL LOL

[Loracs]

Ratlines really up close.

[kirill4]

Good day,

Dear Loracs,

I'm sorry mentioned ratlines -it is no the case here , they are quite correct in size and colors  on your model! Sorry for mentioned ratlines...

As for the laniards of the shrouds, yes, there is steady tendency they used to be tared, and normaly should be the same color as shrouds... that what we could see on replicas and what is more interesting for us as modellers, autentic admiralty museum models , they all have tared ratlines and shroud deadeyes laniards ...practically they easily could be stained to the dark colors with suitaboe stains or deluted acrylic paints and fine brush justcright at places where they are fitted...

All the Best!

Kirill

 

[Knocklouder]

Really nice work on the ratlines, I don't think I would be brave enough for a close up lol. Very nice my friend   

Bob   M.