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On 11/5/2023 at 10:26 PM, Loracs said:

hello knightyo,  thanks for the comment.  you are right. I was thinking about carving the door frames...  but I fail badly at it. I just don't have the right tool for it. 

 

Maybe I should have painted the door only, keeping the door frame brass.  I'm just running out of idea, so I painted red.  Likely not the best?  Maybe another color that does not stand out so much?  Red look like a good idea at first....  but now i just don't know!  hehe!  Maybe off-white? 

 

Let me know what you guys think.

 

Hi Loracs,

 

I think your door frames are good as well!  I was just thinking that the doors themselves might look better if you made them out of wood as well.  Although then that would also require you to create hinges, etc.  It never ends how much detail we can put into these projects.  :D

 

Alan

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Hello @Fishooks,  I'm sorry for the unclear statement...  my bad.  The deck comes in two parts (cut in the middle) for easier installation.  It is a very tight fit otherwise, and you may break the bulkheads.

 

Since I was planking the deck outside the ship, i set up each deck side-by-side and carried on with planking.  The very middle plank, however, at the junction of the decks was glued to ONLY one deck part but not the other.  This way they can be kept separate. Once installed on the ship, everything is seamless.

 

cheers,

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More deck planking, many more...  All three levels installed and glued. A few more curves with the concave decks...  Not much to worry beside having a tight fit.  As mentioned in the manual, I glued in position 6 cannons that will later be closed by the side panels, which will install soon.

 

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As you can see earlier, I'm deviating from the kit color scheme. Again, it's just a matter of taste.  This includes the palisades (upper parts of the side panels).  Rather than paint it white, I chose to plank it with walnut.  The vertical stakes are from walnut strip that I reduce to a thickness of roughly 0.3-0.5 mm to retain the 3D look and feel.  Both sides are planked since they will be visible. More work...  but I like it so far.

 

Walnut strips source from: Modeler's Sawmill is a custom wood milling shop located in New Jersey, that caters to hobbyists and model shipbuilders (modelerssawmill.com).

 

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Carving Decoration: I'm not completely giving up on carving...  I just need some help (in the form of laser cutting) to get me started.  The following is currently available from https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/.  So I decided to practice...  and very likely add them to the Revenge.  

 

The left side is uncarved, while the right side is my first attempt.  It's a little challenging since you can't sand imperfections.

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Loracs,

 

Good on you!

 

Those are looking good!

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Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
 

On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans)

 

On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury

 

Favorite finished builds:  1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia

 

Goal: Become better than I was yesterday

 

"The hardest part is deciding to try." - me

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  • 2 weeks later...

Slow progress (the ship is emerging from the dark): Working on the last segments of the ship. This is the time where all the small imperfections start to haunt you.  1 mm here and another there, curved deck not perfectly glued or wood taking back its original shape (does not want to be curved), missing a couple grooves in the deck for the inner walls changing slightly the angle of the upper deck, etc...

 

This means that several hours are spent making small adjustments before considering adding the final side panels.  In addition, I have to plan the changes in decorations carefully, with all the risk it entails (i.e. not really knowing if the end results will be ok... or not and potentially jeopardizing hundreds of hours of work).  Here's what it looks like now.

 

Note: @Ferrus Manus, @Darivs Architectvs, I did not have the courage to remove the monograms...  they were already glued when you posted.  ;_)

 

Note 2: I took the liberty to reenforce the mats junction to the decks (plywood + hardwood).  A little thicker but a tradeoff I'm ok to accept. The reason is that the mats won't be glued.  They need to be temporary (but really solid), since they will need to come off (and part of the rigging) when we move in few years from now.  Currently, it is a thigh fit and will hold really well.

 

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Final look with the side panels up and planked.  This is a moment I have been waiting to see for quite a while now.  Wood inlays were incorporated as I planked so they don't stand out too much.  Walnut strips from 1mm to 5mm complete the overall layout.  It adds a little dimension to the sides. Overall, I'm pleased with the result.  Ready to complete planking inside and tackle the bow and the stern.

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Completed planking inside the deck and stated to tackle the bow.  In keeping with the color theme, both areas were planked using walnut strips.  The bow was quite fragile... and thus was reinforced underneath, above and on the sides.  Here's what it looks like so far.

 

Note: the bow side panels are not glued yet.  I still need to add the canon door first.

 

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Shaping Mats: Build a rig for shaping mats.  It is basically a holder for interchangeable v-groove pieces (a couple with different depth/width) for shaping using a plane or rounding off with sandpaper using a variable-speed drill.  Hope it works... first time shaping round dowels.  Now, I have to figure out how to accurately square the end of the dowel (likely a little table saw).

 

 

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Rigging Cannons: A year ago, I could not deal with less than 5mm blocks and 0.5mm rope.  Fast forward 2.5mm block and 0.25mm rope are now manageable.  Start rigging the cannons.  Using a 3mm hook from Syren. Seen ok in terms of proportion, 30% less would be great but may not hook very well.  It is still a go as is. First two blocks done...  54 more. 

 

Patience Loracs, Patience.

 

 

 

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Small Palisade: This turns out to be a real pain.  It's hard to align and provides only a small surface area to set in place. This is a recipe for a disaster down the road.  So, I decided to modify my approach.  I planked the side facing inward with interlocking sections to act as a guide to keep everything straight and increase strength when fixing later.  Pictures show the design. Dry fit (no glue) is reasonable.  Time to finish planking outside.

 

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Small Palissade is finally done... only a few cosmetic touches once the glue cured.

Made more progress but only in building small pieces to be fixed later.

Gunport doors look tricky to place and remain put on the ship.

There are times like now where not much is "seen" to be happening but it is advancing slowly.

 

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Nice work.

 

Oops?😉

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Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Eyebolts, Racks and Cleats: Various small parts are installed on the ship.  Those are quite a challenge. Each is re-enforced with nails for stability.  A comment on Bibetou: I seriously hate this wood.  It is far too fragile to be used as construction material.  So far each piece has been strengthened by planking it with walnut strips... it is almost a requirement.

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You are doing some awesome work, it's looking amazing.     :cheers:

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:            The  Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 ,                                                Hannah Ship in a Bottle -1:300  The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,The Mayflower Amati 1:60

non Ship Build:   1972 Ford Sport Custom Truck

 Current Build:    Viking Ship Drakkar -Amati-1:50

On Hold:            HMS Pegasus: Amati 

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Deadeyes racks and gunport doors installed to the ship.  This is no small task...  amazing the number of little parts... all having to be fixed with nails.  The good news, it is done and no major break (couple of minor ones though). Mark, drill and push in... all the while holding my breath that nothing fall apart.  And those little corner parts on top of the racks!!  each need to be adjusted to fit, what a pain.

 

With this done, this officially start the rigging segment of the build, starting with the deck cannons.

 

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Very nice work 👍

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Question:  Likely one of many as I started thinking/working on rigging the ship.  I'm reading that the fore-most shroud on the fore and main mast are typically served the whole length of the rope while the others only at the portion around the mats...  why only the first? there must be a practical and/or functional reason it was done that way.

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I think I read somewhere, that this was because yhis shroud can most come into contact with the sail and ropes.

 

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Another Question on RATLINES:  I often see the cross section (horizontal segments) in light colored rope rather than dark like the vertical section.  Is it a preference from the builder (for contrast) or those were never coated with Tar back then?

 

Same for the rope between the two deadeyes...  always light colored or they were coated with tar usually?

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Ratlines 

what do you prefer to hold in your hands?
a tarred rope.
or one without tar.

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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