Bounty Boat by boerscht - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:24

[Boerscht]

After the Endeavour J-Class my next little project will be the Occre Bounty boat 1:24. 

Not that big and beutiful like the Endeavour but the history behind it is fascinating…

 

So let‘s start:

 

false kiel is set. And damn it’s not plane, slight left bend, saw this after assembling. Lets hope this will not be a big problem later on.

 

 

Really like the ocre colours to stain the wood! They look great.

 

 

 

thats it for the beginning. Some kiel parts and stabilizers next and then the happy planking part begins…I find the Occre planks much thicker than the amati ones, will probably be harder to work with.

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Boerscht

[JacquesCousteau]

Looks like you're off to a great start!

 

It may be too late, but regarding the slight warp in the keel: would it be possible to attach the keel to a straightedge of some sort and use the glued floorboards to hold it in position? It may not be much of an issue, though.

[Boerscht]

1 hour ago, JacquesCousteau said:

Looks like you're off to a great start!

 

It may be too late, but regarding the slight warp in the keel: would it be possible to attach the keel to a straightedge of some sort and use the glued floorboards to hold it in position? It may not be much of an issue, though.

 
Thank you! 
 

yes already tried that with the floorboards. Went better but it’s still not perfectly straight. Maybe with the planking I can get it in shape.

 

stabilizers at the bow and rear are in place:

 

[iMustBeCrazy]

3 hours ago, Boerscht said:

the Occre Bounty boat 1:24

I have been trying to work out what size boat this model depicts, could you do one measurement for me?

 

Thanks,

[Boerscht]

12 minutes ago, iMustBeCrazy said:

I have been trying to work out what size boat this model depicts, could you do one measurement for me?

 

Thanks,

Hi Craig, 

 

just measured from the 1:1 plan. The length your questionmark shows is in the plan 29,5 cm. So in 1:24 this would be 7,08 m length. Seems reasonsble for me?

[iMustBeCrazy]

15 minutes ago, Boerscht said:

The length your questionmark shows is in the plan 29,5 cm. So in 1:24 this would be 7,08 m length. Seems reasonsble for me?

So, 23 feet give or take. Thankyou!

 

[allanyed]

The Bounty launch was about 23' 0" long with a breadth of 6' 9".  With this narrow breadth there is a likelihood she was single banked, not double banked as in the posts above. 

The Bounty launch model has been discussed in great detail here at MSW based on quite a bit of research by members.

Below is a drawing that may be of help as well as the scantlings for a 23 foot launch that you can compare with the kit to see what you may want to change or add such as the number of frames, and tholes.

The drawing below shows the davit and winch which were likely removed before starting the famous voyage as they would have taken up a lot of space and were of no use anyway.

Allan

SCANTLINGS

Length  23- 0”

Breadth 6’ 9”

Depth    2’ 9”

                                                                                                            Feet      Inches

Room & Space                                                                                     1          2⅜

Stem, sided                                                                                                      3⅜

Keel, Square Midships                                                                                      3¾

Post sided at the tuck                                                                                       3⅜

                           below                                                                                     2⅞

                          fore and aft at the keel                                                           8¼

Transom             thick                                                                                        2½

                           sided                                                                                       2

Floor timbers    sided                                                                                        2¼

                          moulded - at the heads                                                           2⅛

                                         -at the throat                                                            3¾

Futtocks                sided below                                                                          2

                              square at the heads                                                           1⅞

Keelson               thick                                                                                      2

                            broad                                                                                    9½

Footwaling           thick                                                                                     1

Bottom planking   thick                                                                                    ⅞

                              broad                                                                                  7   

Landing strake     broad                                                                                    7

Upper strake          broad                                                                                   7½

Gunwale                deep                                                                                     3

                              Thick                                                                                    3¼

Washboard broad at the bow, if included                                                           6      

Rising                  thick                                                                                          1

                            broad                                                                                   5½

Thwarts    fixed     thick                                                                                     2

                              broad                                                                                     10

Thwarts    loose    thick                                                                                     1½

                              broad                                                                                     8

Knee on  three fixed thwarts sided                                                                      3

Benches                thick                                                                                     1½

                              broad                                                                                   11

Deadwood           sided                                                                                    3

Breasthook            sided                                                                                    3

                              length       (each arm)                                                    1    10

                              moulded at the throat                                                          6

Windlass               diameter                                                                                 8

Chocks                  thick                                                                                        3

                              broad                                                                            1     1½

                            up and down                                                                         11¼                                

Ears                       sided                                                                                    6

                              length                                                                        1          3

Rudder                 breadth at the heel                                                     1          4¾

                            breadth at the hance                                                  1          0

                            breadth at the head                                                                6¾

                            thickness                                                                               1

Rudder pintle        thick                                                                                     ¼

and gudgeon         width                                                                                    1

                             quantity                                                                              two

 

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by allanyed

[Boerscht]

Did the rudders and some accessories…

 

Also the planking goes easily:

 

[Boerscht]

First layer of planking is finished and the cutouts for the rudders are done.

Not much woodfiller needed.

Next up is the sanding.

Should I apply the kiel before the second layer of planks or afterwards?

[Keith_W]

Some comments: 

 

1. I would apply the keel before the second planking. That way, if the keel is mis-shapen or does not fit properly, it will be partially hidden by the second planking. In fact, I would have done it before the first planking, but too late for that now. It also depends on the keel thickness - if it is too thick, it can be sanded down. But if it's too thin, there is no way out. So check the keel thickness as well. 

 

2. I suggest you remove all those nails before you sand for the second planking. It will interfere with your sanding and make the surface irregular. 

 

3. You used way too much filler! No drama, it can be sanded off. But filler should be used sparingly. I sand the hull with #80 grit first, and then inspect for dips and holes. I wipe on some filler, and immediately wipe the excess away. I hate sanding, and I especially hate sanding filler - so I use as little of it as I can. 

[Boerscht]

1 hour ago, Keith_W said:

Some comments: 

 

1. I would apply the keel before the second planking. That way, if the keel is mis-shapen or does not fit properly, it will be partially hidden by the second planking. In fact, I would have done it before the first planking, but too late for that now. It also depends on the keel thickness - if it is too thick, it can be sanded down. But if it's too thin, there is no way out. So check the keel thickness as well. 

 

2. I suggest you remove all those nails before you sand for the second planking. It will interfere with your sanding and make the surface irregular. 

 

3. You used way too much filler! No drama, it can be sanded off. But filler should be used sparingly. I sand the hull with #80 grit first, and then inspect for dips and holes. I wipe on some filler, and immediately wipe the excess away. I hate sanding, and I especially hate sanding filler - so I use as little of it as I can. 

Hey Keith, 

 

thanks a lot for your points.

 

1. Yep I will apply the kiel before the second planking.

 

2. thats what I already did 

 

3. you are probably right. I had one or two height differences in planks to cover but yes it was too much of the good and I am sanding till my arm falls off 

[allanyed]

3 hours ago, Keith_W said:

I suggest you remove all those nails before you sand for the second planking.

Totally agree with Keith's comment.   There is no need for nails to hold properly shaped planks.  They can be held with finger pressure for a minute or so if  using PVA or for a few seconds for those using CA glue.  Same can be said for filler.   If the planks are laid in tight as they should be,  no filler is needed.   Worst case is to smear a little PVA glue in there SLIGHT gaps and then sand while the glue is wet.  The sawdust will fill the gaps and match in color pretty closely for many species of wood,

Allan

[Boerscht]

Sanded the filler down, attached the Kiel and already finished one side of the second planking.

 

fitting the last piece:

 

done 

 

started rigging the masts:

[Boerscht]

Planking is finished. Yeaha! 

 

and there is enough material left to build a second one…

[Keith_W]

Great work! Looks neat and tidy. I see you sanded 99% of your filler off, that must have taken you quite a while. 

[Boerscht]

Acrylic clear coat in gloss is sprayed on. Looking sharp I think:

 

 

also the rudder is mounted:

 

Launch mechanism is added:

 

and winch installed:

 

next up was setting the already stained and clear coated masts:

Now it starts to look like a really fine little boat!

 

Let’s begin with the standing rigging. First time for me to rig deadeyes:

 

 

current state of the build is now looking linke this:

[Boerscht]

Only 11 days since I starten this fun little build and it is already finished. 
 

The rest of the rigging was pretty straight forward and there were no problems with it. 
 

I added to every line a coiled rope at the end and also some tied up rope on the masts. Also added some spare coiled ropes with the bigger brown line to add some more „life“ to the model.

 

Here are the pictures of the finished Bounty launch boat:

 

 

 

 

and the details:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Keith_W]

Congratulations! She's a beauty! You work really fast, it seems as if it was only a few days ago you were sanding the hull! In the same time, all I managed to do was complete ONE spar on my model! Where are you going to display her? 

[Boerscht]

17 hours ago, Keith_W said:

Congratulations! She's a beauty! You work really fast, it seems as if it was only a few days ago you were sanding the hull! In the same time, all I managed to do was complete ONE spar on my model! Where are you going to display her? 

Thanks a lot Keith!

I actually don’t know yet where to place it. There is no stand provided in the kit so I have to build one or let it just sit there without a stand.

Probably will end up in my office on the window side besides my desk…

[ccoyle]

Nice work!

 

One little suggestion I would make, though (and I don't know if you can implement it at this point), would be to improve upon the oars. The blades should be faired into the handles, and they should taper in thickness toward their tips. I point this out only because the un-faired oars stand out in an otherwise nicely done model.

 

Cheers!

[Boerscht]

2 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

Nice work!

 

One little suggestion I would make, though (and I don't know if you can implement it at this point), would be to improve upon the oars. The blades should be faired into the handles, and they should taper in thickness toward their tips. I point this out only because the un-faired oars stand out in an otherwise nicely done model.

 

Cheers!

 Thanks Chris!

 

you are totally right with this. I have to admit that I Just was to lazy to do this. But now in the finished Model I also think it looks a bit off and I will probably fix it later.

[Smok_Baltazar]

Hi Boerscht,

I'm working on the same model as my first wooden kit. Now I'm faceing with a little problem with lining. Could you advice me, what technique you choose to provide laning in stight line instead of arch line? I'm looking for soolution but nothing specific.

[Boerscht]

36 minutes ago, Smok_Baltazar said:

Hi Boerscht,

I'm working on the same model as my first wooden kit. Now I'm faceing with a little problem with lining. Could you advice me, what technique you choose to provide laning in stight line instead of arch line? I'm looking for soolution but nothing specific.

 

 

You can see my planking in this picture: first 5 planks from the top in straight line then aligned the rest from the keel onwards straight.

 

[Smok_Baltazar]

Thanks for inspiration. I think that I shaped bow of boat in little more narrowly way. That brought me a problem with shaping planks of lining. Anyway, think that dealt with it enough.

[Knocklouder]

Great work Boerscht,  Congratulations           Bob M.