allanyed Posted November 18, 2023 Share #1 Posted November 18, 2023 The below drawing happens to be the Artois, but it is similar to many others. Is there a name for the line marked below. I have traced it in magenta on the profile plan to see if I could figure it out, but it does not seem to hold any significance. I am sure it has significance as lines were not arbitrarily drawn on these plans so I am curious to know what it is about. The deck line can be seen in red on the original plan so it is not the deck. TIA Allan Line question AAA.PDF Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 18, 2023 Share #2 Posted November 18, 2023 I can't tell which line you are referring to, Allan. Can you add an arrow or something, please? mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate adam Posted November 18, 2023 Share #3 Posted November 18, 2023 Allan, I am not an expert in this area, but I have encountered the same line on my Crocodile draft. I have interpreted it as the top of the moulding that is even with the bottom of the midship rail. Once the moulding diverges from the rail at the waist it continues aft to the quarter galleries and forward to a point above the stem. I'm not sure if that moulding is called the "drift rail?" Adam mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted November 18, 2023 Share #4 Posted November 18, 2023 Given that there is not all of the interior drawn in red, that the line shows no reference to the outside rails and mouldings, that it is all on the same level, and that it is at the correct distance above the gunports - I believe that it is the underside of the deck at the side. mtaylor, bruce d and iMustBeCrazy 2 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMustBeCrazy Posted November 18, 2023 Share #5 Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaager said: I believe that it is the underside of the deck at the side. BINGO! I knew that....once. mtaylor and bruce d 1 1 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share #6 Posted November 18, 2023 Sorry guys it is not the deck. The deck line (top and bottom of the planking) is shown in red on the original draft. I will zoom in further to see if it helps. Will mark the line in question with arrows Druxey, good point. Thanks Allan Line question BBB.PDF mtaylor 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Craigie65 Posted November 18, 2023 Solution Share #7 Posted November 18, 2023 Don’t know if this helps, but in the AOTS for Diana this is labelled as the sheer line Cathead, allanyed, tmj and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted November 18, 2023 Assuming you are correct Craig, and I think you are, I cannot believe how stupid of me not to just take the line all the way through to see such a basic thing by myself. Allan mtaylor and Craigie65 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 18, 2023 Share #9 Posted November 18, 2023 That is the sheer line, as opposed to the toptimber line. mtaylor, tmj and allanyed 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted November 18, 2023 Share #10 Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) My first given was incorrect. There are red lines. I missed that. Struck out! Drift: I can't think of any use that I would have for the shear line? Edited November 18, 2023 by Jaager mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMustBeCrazy Posted November 18, 2023 Share #11 Posted November 18, 2023 6 hours ago, allanyed said: I cannot believe how stupid of me not to just take the line all the way through to see such a basic thing by myself. How do you think I feel? I worked this out months ago and then forgot tmj, mtaylor and allanyed 3 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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