Blacky Posted February 29 #1 Posted February 29 Hello everyone. Yes, I am starting my second project. First one is in rigging stage and i love working with wood, so.... I bought this kit a while ago and i couldn't wait to unpack it and start modeling. My first ship of the line. I wanted to build this one 5 years ago but i knew i didn't have enough knowledge or practice so i had to start with something smaller like endeavour. The wait is over, lets get to the work. ccoyle, chris watton, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted February 29 Author #2 Posted February 29 As you can see this kit does not have interior for the cabines included so i will try to do it my self. I am trying to find the right blueprints of the ardent class 1764 for it and reference photos of simmilar ships. I guess the interior design is simmilar than the one on victory. I did found the blueprints of the quarterdeck but the upper gun deck is still the mystery to me. If ANYONE has any information, please feel free to jump in. Bill Morrison, KARAVOKIRIS, Mr Whippy and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
wvdhee Posted February 29 #3 Posted February 29 Nice! good luck with it Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
allanyed Posted March 1 #4 Posted March 1 Blacky, I have all of the Ardent (1764), Ardent (1782) and Anson 1781 plans in high resolution downloaded as they are available on the Wiki Commons site. With the deck plans and Inboard profile you should have everything you need. I would attach here for you but each is 35mb to 70 mb. Go to the Wiki site https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich Pages 1 and 4 have all the drawings for the above vessels in high res. You can also contact Bucklers Hard to see what information they have on Agamemnon. They were very helpful in the past when I was doing a lot of research on Euryalus which was also built at Bucklers Hard. Allan Mr Whippy 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Blacky Posted March 2 Author #5 Posted March 2 Thank you @allanyed. Those plans are just what i needed. Looking at them i noticed that the last bulkhead on the model is no wide enough. I will have to make new one in order to have correct inner wall curve. GrandpaPhil, KARAVOKIRIS, Bill Morrison and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 3 Author #6 Posted March 3 New bulkhead fits perfectly. Cabin wall curve is now correct on both sides and the outer proportions fit also Bill Morrison, KARAVOKIRIS and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 3 Author #7 Posted March 3 Lower gun deck painted in black to reduce visibility since there are only gun barrels. I plan to plank only middle part that can be seen through the upper deck. Last two bulkheads are finally glued so i can't work on it today anymore. Frame for the lower cabin is also glued and reinforced and I also managed to cut the 0.8 plywood for the floor. The original plywood (which wasn't included in the set, i think the one i got is for hms victory) stops at the cabin so i had to extend the deck. I contacted Jotika support and they told me that they cannot sent me missing part directly if i dont spend 150£. KARAVOKIRIS, Bill Morrison, Mr Whippy and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 6 Author #8 Posted March 6 Checking bulkheads one more time and adding some width so the planking goes as smooth as it can be. I am suprised that the bulkheads have so much error. Mr Whippy, GrandpaPhil, KARAVOKIRIS and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 6 Author #9 Posted March 6 Aaand the first plank goes on 🍻 Mr Whippy, KARAVOKIRIS, Bill Morrison and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 9 Author #10 Posted March 9 Little update. Mr Whippy, GrandpaPhil, KARAVOKIRIS and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted March 12 Author #11 Posted March 12 (edited) I have followed instructions for the upper half. Now i have to figure the best way to plank the rest. Feel free to comment. Edit: just cant get the picture right on my smartphone Edited March 12 by Blacky Bill Morrison, Mr Whippy and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
allanyed Posted March 13 #12 Posted March 13 There do not appear to be any marks on the bulkheads for the widths of the strakes of planking. It is best explained in the Articles database here at MSW and in the planking videos by Chuck Passaro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWooJ1o3cM Hope you don't mind the right side up pic of your model......😀 Allan KARAVOKIRIS, Bill Morrison and Knocklouder 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Blacky Posted April 13 Author #13 Posted April 13 Update, still working on the first layer. Using methods that Chuck explained and adjusting them as suits me. Should be more than good enough forthe first planking layer. I want it to be solid base for the second layer and get the curves right. Mr Whippy, GrandpaPhil, wvdhee and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
S.Coleman Posted April 13 #14 Posted April 13 Perfect start. Love this ship. I will eventually get one myself. Planking looks smooth and even. Nice job. Mr Whippy 1 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
ccoyle Posted April 15 #16 Posted April 15 24 minutes ago, Tyguy35 said: How are the overall instructions for this kit? I would expect them to be very minimal, as was typical for the early Caldercraft/Nelson's Navy kits. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Blacky Posted April 20 Author #17 Posted April 20 On 4/15/2024 at 4:29 PM, ccoyle said: I would expect them to be very minimal, as was typical for the early Caldercraft/Nelson's Navy kits. Yes, very minimal. Blueprints and few pages of text Mr Whippy 1 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted April 20 Author #18 Posted April 20 Another update chris watton, Ronald-V, KARAVOKIRIS and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted April 20 Author #19 Posted April 20 Does anyone know if this bulkhead width is correct? This would mean that the inner line is not parallel with the outer. Bill Morrison and JeffT 2 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
allanyed Posted April 21 #20 Posted April 21 (edited) This might help. From the Shipbuilder's Repository 1788 which should be close for Agamemnon 1781: Fourth futtocks moulded at the upper deck 9 3/4" Top timbers <at the top end> moulded in the range of the forecastle 5 1/4" The dimensions below are what they would be if made to scale 1:64 This would apply to the forward frames as well. It looks like the forward most frames moulded dimension is too heavy. Perhaps the kit has it extra thick due to the pressure of the planking bend in that area. Allan Edited April 22 by allanyed Bill Morrison and KARAVOKIRIS 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Blacky Posted April 28 Author #21 Posted April 28 Thanks @allanyed. I think you are right. Now that the first layer is finished i think it is safe to trim the first three to the right dimension. But first, sanding, cutting the gunports and then i am moving to the interior. I also plan to do custom version of the agamemnon figurine but all in its time Knocklouder, Ronald-V, KARAVOKIRIS and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted May 12 Author #22 Posted May 12 (edited) Question: how do you usually make gunports when the deck is narrow? The blueprint suggests C. I tried using gunport blueprint but it is way off so. My ship dimensions are off 1mm from the blueprint so i am marking ports myself. Actually find it a lot of fun. This is the current state of my agi. I have done the sanding and it seems quite smooth. Found only one incorrection that i will need to fill with filler and sand again Edited May 12 by Blacky Ronald-V, mort stoll and Bill Morrison 3 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted May 16 Author #23 Posted May 16 Mesured from the inside, measured from the outside at least 2 times. No going back now. Javelin, mort stoll, Bill Morrison and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted June 5 Author #24 Posted June 5 Lower gunports cut and trimmed to the right dimensions and planked the lower part of the stern. I need to add quarter galleries in order to continue planking up. mort stoll and Ronald-V 2 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted June 5 Author #25 Posted June 5 After spending a few hours finding the best approach to border the gunports I have decided to add an additional 2 planks from the inside of the gunport to make better support for the lower border and then the rest 3 sides were easy to add. I used the mitre cutter tool for precisely cutting borders and it proved to be a good investment. I highly recommend it. mort stoll, ccoyle, chris watton and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted June 5 Author #26 Posted June 5 (edited) A little test with second layer. What do you think about beveling the edges of the planks? Edited June 5 by Blacky schooner, chris watton, Ronald-V and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Patrick Haw Posted June 5 #27 Posted June 5 Hi Blacky. I just came across your Agamemnon. I tried this build a few years ago and failed. I didn't have the skills I have learned since then. Looks like you are doing a great job with her and i look forward to following your progress! Patrick Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Blacky Posted June 22 Author #28 Posted June 22 Thank you @Patrick Haw. I went on a vacation and took a little break from work but did bring some wood and tools with me 😉, modeling is not work right. I saw that vanguard models is selling 3d printed version of furniture so i wanted to see how good i can make the same from wood. Here is my first attempt. I used swiss pear. What do you think? chris watton, RossR, JacquesCousteau and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted June 23 Author #29 Posted June 23 My second attempt brunnels, JacquesCousteau and Thukydides 3 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
Blacky Posted June 24 Author #30 Posted June 24 Round table. Few more chairs and cabinets during vacation and i can move back to ship when i come home mort stoll, Swinging the lead and Ronald-V 3 Quote Current builds: - HMS Endeavour by Occre - HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft
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