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Hello everyone.

Yes, I am starting my second project. First one is in rigging stage and i love working with wood, so.... I bought this kit a while ago and i couldn't wait to unpack it and start modeling. My first ship of the line. I wanted to build this one 5 years ago but i knew i didn't have enough knowledge or practice so i had to start with something smaller like endeavour. The wait is over, lets get to the work. 

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As you can see this kit does not have interior for the cabines included so i will try to do it my self. I am trying to find the right blueprints of the ardent class 1764 for it and reference photos of simmilar ships. I guess the interior design is simmilar than the one on victory. 

I did found the blueprints of the quarterdeck but the upper gun deck is still the mystery to me. If ANYONE has any information, please feel free to jump in.

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Blacky,

I have all of the  Ardent (1764), Ardent (1782) and Anson 1781 plans in high resolution downloaded as they are  available on the Wiki Commons site. With the deck plans and Inboard profile you should have everything you need.   I would attach here for you but each is 35mb to 70 mb.  Go to the Wiki site  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich   Pages 1 and 4  have all the drawings for the above vessels in high res.   You can also contact Bucklers Hard to see what information they have on Agamemnon.  They were very helpful in the past when I was doing a lot of research on Euryalus which was also built at Bucklers Hard.  

Allan

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Lower gun deck painted in black to reduce visibility since there are only gun barrels. I plan to plank only middle part that can be seen through the upper deck. Last two bulkheads are finally glued so i can't work on it today anymore.

Frame for the lower cabin is also glued and reinforced and I also managed to cut the 0.8 plywood for the floor. The original plywood (which wasn't included in the set,  i think the one i got is for hms victory) stops at the cabin so i had to extend the deck. I contacted Jotika support and they told me that they cannot sent me missing part directly if i dont spend 150£. 

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There do not appear to be any marks on the bulkheads for the widths of the strakes of planking.  It is best explained in the Articles database here at MSW and in the planking videos by Chuck Passaro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWooJ1o3cM   Hope you don't mind the right side up pic of your model......😀

Allan

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Update, still working on the first layer. Using methods that Chuck explained and adjusting them as suits me. Should be more than good enough forthe first planking layer. I want it to be solid base for the second layer and get the curves right. 

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Perfect start. Love this ship. I will eventually get one myself. Planking looks smooth and even. Nice job.

Regards, Scott

 

Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli

 

Completed builds:

1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli  -  1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli  -  1:54 Adventure, Amati  -  1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL

1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli  -  1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel  -  1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal

 

Awaiting construction:

1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL  -  1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard

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This might help.  From the Shipbuilder's Repository 1788 which should be close for Agamemnon 1781:

Fourth futtocks moulded at the upper deck 9 3/4" 

Top timbers <at the top end> moulded in the range of the forecastle 5 1/4"  The dimensions below are what they would be if made to scale 1:64  This would apply to the forward frames as well.

 

It looks like the forward most frames moulded dimension is too heavy.    Perhaps the kit has it extra thick due to the pressure of the planking bend in that area.

 

Allan

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Thanks @allanyed. I think you are right. Now that the first layer is finished i think it is safe to trim the first three to the right dimension.

But first, sanding, cutting the gunports and then i am moving to the interior. I also plan to do custom version of the agamemnon figurine but all in its time

 

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Question: how do you usually make gunports when the deck is narrow? The blueprint suggests C. 

I tried using gunport blueprint but it is way off so. My ship dimensions are off 1mm from the blueprint so i am marking ports myself. Actually find it a lot of fun.

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This is the current state of my agi. I have done the sanding and it seems quite smooth. Found only one incorrection that i will need to fill with filler and sand again

 

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After spending a few hours finding the best approach to border the gunports I have decided to add an additional 2 planks from the inside of the gunport to make better support for the lower border and then the rest 3 sides were easy to add. 

I used the mitre cutter tool for precisely cutting borders and it proved to be a good investment. I highly recommend it. 

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Hi Blacky. I just came across your Agamemnon. I tried this build a few years ago and failed. I didn't have the skills I have learned since then. Looks like you are doing a great job with her and i look forward to following your progress!

 

Patrick

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Thank you @Patrick Haw

I went on a vacation and took a little break from work but did bring some wood and tools with me 😉, modeling is not work right. I saw that vanguard models is selling 3d printed version of furniture so i wanted to see how good i can make the same from wood. Here is my first attempt. I used swiss pear. What do you think?

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