Isaiah Posted April 25 Share #1 Posted April 25 (edited) I like how Thukydides organised his log so I’m copying his. You will be able to easily find any part of the build. Table of contents (CURRENTLY NOT WORKING) Pre-building Log #1: research and preparation Log #2: Unboxing and review Hull Construction Log #3: Frame assembly Log #4: Transom, Fairing and Keel Log #5: Bulwarks Log #6: First planks ——————————————————— Log #1: Research and preparation This is the start of the Sherbourne build log, the kit won’t be arriving for another 2-3 weeks but anything that I should be aware of or extra parts I should get please let me know. I will be replacing all rope with Ropes of Scale and the kit blocks with Syren blocks. I will also get thimble blocks from Syren for the backstays. I don’t have an airbrush and I don’t like the idea of using spray paint for the hull. I just bought white acrylic paint so what I might do is only use spray paint as a base coat, then apply a thinned down white acrylic. I’m already thinking about gun tackles and I know I’ll need at least 2mm blocks. I don’t think there’s really any available though. Only Vanguards blocks but they’ll be different to Syren blocks. Will I just have to make them? Edited Sunday at 03:43 AM by Isaiah Thukydides, GrandpaPhil, mugje and 6 others 9 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted April 25 Share #2 Posted April 25 Would you like to do some research on the real ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 25 Author Share #3 Posted April 25 Yes I would, even though I want it to be accurate, I’m going to focus more on making a good looking build. I don’t mean compromise accuracy, obviously I’ll try my best to have both worlds. Ferrus Manus and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 25 Author Share #4 Posted April 25 And I also bought the fore and aft rigging book by Lennarth Petersson. Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted April 26 Share #5 Posted April 26 An accurate build is a good looking build. When it comes to ships, usually accuracy equates to beauty pretty well. Thukydides and Lee Spender 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted April 26 Share #6 Posted April 26 Going to watch, this will be different even for a new kit. I stand to be corrected, but, I thought Vanguard uses Ropes of Scale? Though the supplied standing rigging is black in this kit, and you may want brown? Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted April 26 Share #7 Posted April 26 p.s. While you are replacing stuff, have a look at the belaying pins, see what you think. Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 26 Author Share #8 Posted April 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pitan said: I stand to be corrected, but, I thought Vanguard uses Ropes of Scale? Though the supplied standing rigging is black in this kit, and you may want brown? I’m following your build as well. It’s not Ropes of Scale. I think it might be Amati cord. Ropes of scale rope only comes in 6 metre lengths. Good point about the standing rigging. Coal or black tar came much later so brown or pine tar would be better. Edited April 26 by Isaiah Pitan 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 26 Author Share #9 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Pitan said: p.s. While you are replacing stuff, have a look at the belaying pins, see what you think. What would you say’s wrong with the pins? Are they too small? Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted April 27 Share #10 Posted April 27 10 hours ago, Isaiah said: What would you say’s wrong with the pins? Are they too small? The kit supplies flat etched brass belaying pins. Personally, I'd prefer round pins. Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvdhee Posted April 27 Share #11 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Pitan said: The kit supplies flat etched brass belaying pins. Personally, I'd prefer round pins. File the edges, paint them black and they look perfect imho. Thukydides and Isaiah 2 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted April 27 Share #12 Posted April 27 8 minutes ago, wvdhee said: File the edges, paint them black and they look perfect imho. Thanks, I'll try that wvdhee and Isaiah 2 Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted April 27 Share #13 Posted April 27 2 hours ago, wvdhee said: File the edges, paint them black and they look perfect imho. This is true of a lot of the PE. You can make it look significantly better by filing them or in some cases glueing two pieces together to make them thicker. Pitan, wvdhee and Isaiah 3 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 1 Author Share #14 Posted May 1 On 4/27/2024 at 10:46 PM, Pitan said: The kit supplies flat etched brass belaying pins. Personally, I'd prefer round pins. I’ll have to see when I get the kit. If they look too flat even with filing I’ll just buy some. Pitan 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 4 Author Share #15 Posted May 4 Here’s a couple things I’ve made while waiting for the kit to arrive. Crosscut jig, pre-bought ones are never as good. And an adjustable jig to hold the false keel and keep it straight. Pitan, BenD, Mr Whippy and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted May 4 Share #16 Posted May 4 Looks interesting. The kit has a hull cradle sized to support the hull at the frames (even before planking), but I can see other stages in the build where your jigs will be useful. A modification of your cutting jig might be very useful when working on my mast and spars. I wonder? Pondering ... Thukydides and Isaiah 2 Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 4 Author Share #17 Posted May 4 I just realised I have to add blocks to the jig to fit in between the bulkheads. Otherwise the bulkheads won’t be able to slot all the way down. Pitan 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted May 4 Share #18 Posted May 4 Think you are overthinking this. At least, for a Vanguard kit. Follow the instructions in Vanguard's manual, and your hull should be fine. Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted May 4 Share #19 Posted May 4 3 hours ago, Isaiah said: I just realised I have to add blocks to the jig to fit in between the bulkheads. Otherwise the bulkheads won’t be able to slot all the way down. Absolutely no need. The Vanguard system makes jigs etc. superfluous. Pitan 1 Quote Simon. Current build HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Previous: Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre In the stash: HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted May 4 Share #20 Posted May 4 8 hours ago, Isaiah said: Here’s a couple things I’ve made while waiting for the kit to arrive. Crosscut jig, pre-bought ones are never as good. And an adjustable jig to hold the false keel and keep it straight. You will not need any of that Pitan, Craigie65, DB789 and 3 others 6 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 4 Author Share #21 Posted May 4 Good to know, most other kits I’ve seen require keeping the keel straight while planking. Glad I won’t need it then. Mr Whippy and Knocklouder 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted May 5 Share #22 Posted May 5 51 minutes ago, Isaiah said: most other kits I’ve seen require keeping the keel straight while planking You can prevent this by using filler blocks in some places, which also give the planking a greater surface area to adhere to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted May 5 Share #23 Posted May 5 No filler blocks required. There are 17 bulkheads with a space of around 13mm between each one. Skeletal assembly is rock solid and virtually impossible to have the banana keels of old. Ferrus Manus, Thukydides, DB789 and 3 others 6 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 8 Author Share #24 Posted May 8 Log #2: unboxing and review I’ve just picked up the kit today. I’m amazed at the quality and precision in all the parts and how well everything is packaged and labeled. You literally can’t go wrong, let alone all the extra plans and diagrams. This is a big step up in quality from my Perseverance. Craigie65, Thukydides, Ferrus Manus and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 8 Author Share #25 Posted May 8 (edited) Log #3: Frame assembly Here’s where I’m up to since I unboxed it. Having the engraved markings on the bulkheads really helps with pre-bevelling. The Dremel did a great job with this task. Everything went together nicely and had a perfect fit. Edited Saturday at 10:01 AM by Isaiah Thukydides, BrochBoating, ccoyle and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted May 9 Share #26 Posted May 9 That looks like nice progress, Isaiah. That hull should be nice and straight by now? Quote Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 10 Author Share #27 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Pitan said: That looks like nice progress, Isaiah. That hull should be nice and straight by now? The hull had a slight twist along the length. I’ve currently got it under tension while the glue around all the bulkheads dries. Should work. Pitan and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 14 Author Share #28 Posted May 14 (edited) Log #4: Transom, Fairing and keel Here is an update after I fixed the slight twist in the hull: Edited Saturday at 09:39 AM by Isaiah Pitan, GrandpaPhil, Lee Spender and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted May 14 Share #29 Posted May 14 Fairing looks nice! Going well Isaiah and Thukydides 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted Saturday at 08:24 AM Author Share #30 Posted Saturday at 08:24 AM (edited) Log #5: bulwarks Bulwarks bent and glued, ready for planking. I made this jig to bend the bulwarks to the exact radius. I used the top deck piece as a template. Edited Saturday at 09:54 AM by Isaiah Thukydides, Pitan, Lee Spender and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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