Barrel/Keg making

[AntonyUK]

Hi.

I have done a search on the forum looking for methods of making wooden barrels/ kegs.

The only result pointed me to :- http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/300-le-bonhomme-richard-by-jeronimo/page-7

Post 105

I do have a lathe and a bench saw and I would like to make my own.

My question is :- is there a method that we use ?.

As I need something like 8 barrels I would like to jig it up and do it properly

I am able to cut my timber @24 degrees and to spiral join them to give me 18 segments to make each in barrel.

Will post a photo tomorow when they are dryed.

 

Regards Antony.

[JPett]

Ahoy Anthony

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2843-index-of-helpful-links/?p=78215

 

I have one link for barrels

[mtaylor]

Anthony,

 

Have you seen this:  http://www.arsenal-modelist.com/index.php?page=accessories∂=39ℑ=0

 

If you click Accessories at the top of the page, there's a whole list of items.   If you click Articles, there's more... sadly, the Articles section isn't complete.

[AntonyUK]

Hello Shipmates.

That's basically the methods I was looking at

The only diffarance being is I cut my wedges to form a compleate wedge and I spiral'ed my wedges onto a mandrel.

 

Thanks for the replys.

 

Regards Antony.

[AntonyUK]

Hi.

Photos of Method. Barrel shape not yet done.

 

 

 

 

Regards Antony.

[Q A's Revenge]

Interesting technique Antony, looking forward to seeing how you progress!

[NMBROOK]

Interesting process Antony.The only problem I can foresee is when you turn the barrel to shape,the staves will appear a funny shape,hard to explain the geometry on the keyboard,but if the barrel tapers top and bottom the staves will be crescent shaped,due to the way the wedges are orientated.I do hope I am wrong,but I would turn one before making the others up

Kind Regards Nigel

[AntonyUK]

Hi shipmates.

Nigel.... You are spot on with you're analyses of the idea.

I put the test piece in the lathe tonight and turned and polished it the put some Danish oil on to show the joins.

The joiners are ALL curved the same way.

So made another set up slightley bigger with mat black paint between the wedges hopefully to look as if they have been sealed.

And I will NOT spiral them

 

Update tomorow.

Regards Antony.

[druxey]

The wedges need to be cut with the edges radiating from the axis. So, glue up the sections with the points meeting at the axis. Your prototype will only make "Go home, barrel - you're drunk."

Edited November 9, 2013 by druxey

[dvm27]

Here's my technique, Antony. It's very simple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AntonyUK]

Hello shipmates.

Thanks for showing me that.

The only issue I had was the cutting of the wedges to the correct angle. But I have that sorted now

Produced one today and it turned out spot on.

Just need to adjust the size a little and I have my barrels/cask/kegs.

 

Thanks again.

Regards Antony.

[Q A's Revenge]

Is there a way of enhancing the joints in some way, perhaps colouring the glue?

[AntonyUK]

Hello shipmates.

I painted the top edges of the wedge before assembling with Matt Black paint to show the joints a little more.

Worked for me

 

Regards Antony.

[AntonyUK]

Hi.

A photo shows what a painted joint looks like

 

Every other Joint is Painted.

 

Close up photo.

 

Regards Antony.

Edited November 10, 2013 by AntonyUK

[bushman32]

They are looking really good. I cheat though, I turn the shape of the barrel, mark out the staves, then scribe them, then add the rings with thick black construction paper. I am going to try your technique, but how do you cut the wedges?

  Ron W.

[AntonyUK]

Hi Ron.

I use a band saw and a table saw to cut the wedges.

I choose the number of segments I require in the cask.

Example 10 degrees gives me 36 segments.

              10 degrees gives me 36 segments.

              15 degrees gives me 24 segments.

              10 degrees gives me 18 segments.

              20 degrees gives me 15 segments.

              24 degrees gives me 12 segments.

 

The drawing is better than a hundred words :-

Wedge cutting.bmp

 

Hope this helps.

Regards Antony.

 

[bushman32]

Both were a big help Antony, I appreciate it. I am going to give this a try and see how I do.

  Ron W.

[Q A's Revenge]

Hhm, I only have a bandsaw so I'll have to give this some thought! :-)