fmodajr Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #91 Posted May 2, 2014 Hola Frank, you really made a good job with the cannon and carriages, they look very nice. By the way I use the Patina product that are sold for stained glass to make the bronze cannons look older and it works pretty well. Saludos, Karl Hi Karl, Thanks for the information about the Patina product. I started diluting my paint about 5 to 1 and it went on too thin so I went with a ratio of 3 to 1 and I think it went on too thick!! Oh well. P.S. I stopped by your log today and I loved the work you did on the stern lantern. I will need all the help I can get when I reach that stage of the build. Great job! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted May 2, 2014 Share #92 Posted May 2, 2014 Thanks Frank. Indeed the BB lantern looks much better than the Corel one, and besides the upper part of the lantern I think the rest can be done with no problem. If I can help you don´t hesitate to ask. Saludos, Karl Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share #93 Posted May 3, 2014 Nice look to the rope coils.I hung mine on the sides of the carriages to keep them off the deck - just my preference.Makes it easier to clean any dust off the deck surfaces. /Mark Hi Mark! Thanks for you input. It is appreciated! Yes, I agree hanging the coils on the sides would have been better. However, I made the carriages a little bit smaller lengthwise, in order to have them stay some distance from the grating. So with this situation, they would have been hanging off the back wheels, hence I put them on the deck! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted May 3, 2014 Share #94 Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) I see what you mean.I always seem to have trouble making the coils look neat like yours. Mark Edited May 3, 2014 by marktiedens Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share #95 Posted May 8, 2014 Now I turned my attention to the pin rails. Notched out the wood to fit the railing posts. Added belay pin holes Mounted over the cannon Kevin, md1400cs, Aussie048 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share #96 Posted May 8, 2014 I did not use the kit ladder assemblies, but made my own (hopefully more to scale!) Ladders are made from walnut. Ladder to lower deck Assembled ladders WackoWolf, marktiedens, Lin Feng and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted May 8, 2014 Share #97 Posted May 8, 2014 Very neat & clean look to your decks. Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share #98 Posted May 8, 2014 Very neat & clean look to your decks. Thanks Mark! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share #99 Posted May 20, 2014 Made some more progress on the model! Started work on some of the deck fittings. I cut out the slots for the sheaves and made the bottoms for the stanchions. Now I inserted the sheaves, pinned the bottoms (to help keep them in place on the deck), gold leafed and fit the head figurines to the stanchions, and made the belay pin racks. Some photos of the finished assembly's on the deck WackoWolf, marktiedens, Aussie048 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share #100 Posted May 20, 2014 The Corel kit plans call for a small railing behind the foremast, where the ladder to the lower level is, and a larger railing in front of the mizzenmast (above the 2 doors on the main deck. I do not see these railings on the Vasa Museum plans, the 1/10 scale model or in Landstrom's book. Am I missing something? Or should I install them or leave them off? Any thoughts would be most welcome! Thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted May 20, 2014 Share #101 Posted May 20, 2014 All depends Frank, if you want to be a purist dont put the railings, otherwise is your model and make what you think looks better. Saludos, Karl WackoWolf 1 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted May 21, 2014 Share #102 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I didn`t put those railings on mine - just my preference.After thinking about it - it does seem a little strange that they would have no railings around these areas.One false step & down you go! /Mark Edited May 21, 2014 by marktiedens Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 21, 2014 Share #103 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) From what I've read safety wasn't very important at that time. /Matti Edited May 21, 2014 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share #104 Posted May 21, 2014 All depends Frank, if you want to be a purist dont put the railings, otherwise is your model and make what you think looks better. Saludos, Karl Thanks for the fine input Karl! I know there are so many areas of my model that don't match the original (and I'm sure there will be other areas when I start the rigging ) However, if I can change something to make it closer to the original, I probably should do it! We'll see. I have some thinking to do! Thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share #105 Posted May 21, 2014 I didn`t put those railings on mine - just my preference.After thinking about it - it does seem a little strange that they would have no railings around these areas.One false step & down you go! /Mark Hi Mark, Thanks! Yes, It is strange! I Guess the Vasa didn't last long enough for the ship builders to get enough data on whether or not railings should be added Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #106 Posted May 22, 2014 From what I've read safety wasn't very important at that time. /Matti Hi Matti, How true!! I'm sure a sailor's life in the 1600's wasn't very romantic! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #107 Posted June 4, 2014 Working on the Capstan. I drilled out the holes of the Corel Capstan and squared them up. Installed the base for the capstan I removed the large base from the Corel capstan, added the 6 vertical pieces and shaped in-between. Installed the capstan to the base Finished capstan WackoWolf, Kevin, Aussie048 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #108 Posted June 4, 2014 I decided to add the small railing around the opening to the lower deck and leave off the stern railings (in front of the mizzen mast) that the Corel kit called for. Stanchions pinned to deck. Finished railing Now turning my attention to the channels! Thanks, Frank Kevin, edmay, md1400cs and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJonas Posted June 5, 2014 Share #109 Posted June 5, 2014 Hello everyone! I am a bit of a novice here, though I have built a lot of model airplanes. But some years ago I started with a Corel Wasa and completed most of the hull with an acceptable result for planking and finish. I have now retired from work and will have a lot of time. Therefore I thought I would start with Wasa again. But the stern is hopelessly inaccurate and I missed making the interior of the gunports before planking. So, shall I buy a new Corel and start from scratch again, using all the excellent blogs here? But then I got a fantastic idea! I will buy a Billing Wasa, which cost considerble less than a Corel boat, probably because of better details in Corel. The hull of Billing's Wasa is, as I have understood, more accurate. And after that I can use all the excellent details and rigging stuff from my first Corel model. But I have to learn the best way to make tree-nails, and also find a way to get black metal-nails. Perhaps using some small round Nails and cut off the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share #110 Posted June 6, 2014 Hi Tom, Thanks for visiting my log! When I started my Corel Vasa 2 1/2 years ago, I didn't realize how inaccurate it was. If I had to do it over again, I would have done a lot more research into kit selection. I understand from other logs that the Billings kit is more accurate, but I am sure that the members who are building the Billings version can speak more knowledgeably about how the kit is to build! As for the metal nails, I just order mine from micromark.com. Once I get the sizes I need, I dip them in a chemical blackener to turn them black. The product I use is " JAX Pewter Black" but I am sure there are plenty of other products out there. If you decide to continue with the Corel kit, I think there must be ways to get the interior of the gun ports installed after the fact. Will have to think on that a bit! Thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted June 6, 2014 Share #111 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Frank, Nice update. Nice job squaring the capstan holes. Your pre-inserting the upper and lower deck gun carriages sure is getting the attention that it deserves. Brilliant idea. Also tooooo late for my build (:-( I'm mentally running ideas on how to incorporate at least the carriage sides when I insert the dummies. Hmmmm solution TBD. Your idea was visionary. Michael Edited June 6, 2014 by md1400cs Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share #112 Posted June 6, 2014 Frank, Nice update. Nice job squaring the capstan holes. Your pre-inserting the upper and lower deck gun carriages sure is getting the attention that it deserves. Brilliant idea. Also tooooo late for my build (:-( I'm mentally running ideas on how to incorporate at least the carriage sides when I insert the dummies. Hmmmm solution TBD. Your idea was visionary. Michael Thanks for the post Michael (and the help with the capstan)! I am now cutting and shaping the wood for the channels and figuring out what I need to install the deadeyes and chain plates. I hope your cannon rigging is going well! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted June 18, 2014 Share #113 Posted June 18, 2014 Hola Frank: I know that your kit is different from mine but I would like to know how are the ropes of the higher spars of the Main mast are fixed to deck because I found two versions in the instructions of my kit, one in the Manual and the other in the Plan (nothing new) as you can see in the picture. The same applies to the foremast. Saludos, Karl Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #114 Posted June 20, 2014 Hello Karl, You are ahead of me in the build, but I think I found what you are looking for. The Corel plans shows the rigging of the mainmast yards onto the deck. (I don't know how accurate the Corel plans are. I know that the Vasa Museum is supposed to be coming out with a rigging book soon). Here is pictures of the mainmast from the Corel plans. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #115 Posted June 20, 2014 Karl, Here is the Corel plan for the yards on the Foremast. (If you have trouble viewing, sent me an email and I will send you a PDF. Thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanV Posted June 20, 2014 Share #116 Posted June 20, 2014 Hello Karl, You are ahead of me in the build, but I think I found what you are looking for. The Corel plans shows the rigging of the mainmast yards onto the deck. (I don't know how accurate the Corel plans are. I know that the Vasa Museum is supposed to be coming out with a rigging book soon). Frank Hello Frank, latest information concerning the book that the date of publish is delayed. Museum cannot give a timeframe http://warshipvasa.freeforums.net/thread/57/vasa-ii?page=2&scrollTo=784 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #117 Posted June 20, 2014 Hi Jan, Thanks for the update. Sad to hear that there will be a delay in the book. I'm thinking about adding some sails to the ship when I get to that point, but I would hesitate if I didn't have any plans for the sail rigging. We'll see! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted June 20, 2014 Share #118 Posted June 20, 2014 Frank: Thank you very much for your answer and for taking pictures of your plans, will be of great helpful and besides they are not as in the original ship they give a better idea than my BB plans. In the meantime I found this link of Clayton´s that can be of great help also. https://sites.google.com/site/clayton707/swedishwarshipwasa Muchos saludos, Karl Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #119 Posted June 20, 2014 Hi Karl, Glad to be of some help. Thank you very much for pointing me to Clayton's link. What a beautiful job he has done! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share #120 Posted June 25, 2014 I went back over to the stern of the ship to tidy up a few loose ends. Installed the curved pieces above the center ornamentation. Then I gold leafed the two tall figurines and attached to the ship. Added the figurines to the lower part under the galleries. md1400cs, Kevin, JPett and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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