dafi Posted May 6, 2015 #61 Posted May 6, 2015 The trick is, that there are two rings being used: The eyebolt in the hull (usually vertical) and a ring 90° turned (usually horizontal) to which the breech or tackles are fixed ... So what do you represent? The eyebolt or the ring ;-) XXXDan Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html
Lukasvdb Posted May 6, 2015 Author #62 Posted May 6, 2015 I would like to represent the ring Maybe bent it down a little to try to imitate gravity and the weight of the breaching rope Quote
Lukasvdb Posted May 10, 2015 Author #63 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Portside cannons installed! I trying to rig the breeching ropes but I'm having a lot of trouble doing this in an unmessy way... can anyone help me with this before I proceed with the other cannons? It would be very helpful! Is there any tutorial available on how to tie off these breeching ropes? Thanks! Edited May 10, 2015 by Lukasvdb docidle and egkb 2 Quote
Lukasvdb Posted May 11, 2015 Author #64 Posted May 11, 2015 Well I have tried something and I like it better! It's much more work but it's doable and has a better result than my first try. The first two are the result of my second try and the last one is my first try. What do you guys think?! foxy, egkb, Barbossa and 2 others 5 Quote
dgbot Posted May 11, 2015 #65 Posted May 11, 2015 Better looking and neater. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
popeye2sea Posted May 11, 2015 #66 Posted May 11, 2015 Top two are much better looking. And more realistic too! egkb 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
Beef Wellington Posted May 11, 2015 #68 Posted May 11, 2015 Not sure if it helps you now Lucas, but I've found that if you seize the breech ropes to the eyelets off the model, you have more control over the end result. The eyelets can then simply be glued into pre-drilled holed once the guns are placed. You did a great job with your second effort, looks so much better. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Lukasvdb Posted May 12, 2015 Author #69 Posted May 12, 2015 Thank you Jason! It is too late to do this at this stage but I will defintely keep this in mind for the cannons on the quarterdeck, waist and forecastle. Still a long way to go but many thanks for the positive comment! Quote
Lukasvdb Posted May 26, 2015 Author #70 Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Yes finally some progress to report again! The breaching ropes of the starboardcannons are attached to the bullwarks! Wow that was a tedious job But I like the result! Only 15 to go Pictures: Edited May 26, 2015 by Lukasvdb Barbossa, Beef Wellington, docidle and 2 others 5 Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 10, 2015 Author #71 Posted June 10, 2015 Hi everyone! Just a quick update, all the breaching ropes of all 30 cannons have been installed with A LOT of patience but it worked out ok. I'm much more happy about the starboard side cannons than the port cannons. I used a different production process and to change the port side cannons would mean I would have had to rip out all the cannons again. But now at least I know which process to use on the guns for the small guns that will be fully visible. And that's what really matters right? I have also upgraded the capstan that was provided by heller. On the upper gun deck you are supposed to install a capstan also but this will not be visible in the end. So I have decided to use this capstan on the forecastle instead as it is much more better looking than that odd shaped thing that you are supposed to use... Pictures will follow! Further work on the cannons is halted for the moment as I am waiting for some building materials to come in. In the mean time I'm doing some small things like painting & such. egkb and docidle 2 Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 16, 2015 Author #72 Posted June 16, 2015 Okay..., so I officially have a problem... I recently bought some new material, blocks etc, to rig the tackles for the cannons. Everything I use is massively over scale. Even the smallest blocks (2/2mm) are too big! Actually they are okay but the distance between the two blocks is just too small... It's not working! Aaaargh! I can't believe this. Does anybody have any tips? Any suggestion will be helpfull from here on, because I'm desperate! Quote
dafi Posted June 16, 2015 #73 Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Well done so far! I think for this scale, faking would be a much more appropriate way ;-) Here a nice version on a Airfix Prince. it is in german, but the pictures are sufficient I believe :-) 420 444 Also he gives a nice solution for the deadeyes a bit further on. Cheers, Daniel Edited June 16, 2015 by dafi docidle 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html
Lukasvdb Posted June 16, 2015 Author #74 Posted June 16, 2015 Thanks for the advice Dafi! I'm afraid you are right, unfortunately... I will try to find a solution that is both realistic and pleasing to the eye! Quote
Blue Ensign Posted June 17, 2015 #75 Posted June 17, 2015 Hi Lukas, I only rigged the side tackles on the very small Foc'sle and Quarterdeck guns. The only option for me other than driving myself mad was to fake the tackles. I used very small square section styrene rod (for the blocks) and very small gauge wire. (for the tackles) The wire was threaded thro' the styrene and ca'd at the right distance apart. The wire was then used to form both the tackle lines and the hooks either end to attach to the gun and bulwark. At the scale involved it worked for me. B.E. dafi, foxy, egkb and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
dgbot Posted June 17, 2015 #76 Posted June 17, 2015 Looking good. A nice way to make a difficult part good job. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
foxy Posted June 17, 2015 #77 Posted June 17, 2015 Cracking work Luke, that size is very difficult to work with. B.E. has the solution . Frank Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 18, 2015 Author #78 Posted June 18, 2015 Thanks for the compliments guys! B.E. your option looks really great. For the moment I have two possible scenario's in my head. Yours and one personal which involves 0,3mm eyelets converted to hooks, 0,1mm thread and some white glue to make blocks. I will try tonight! Thanks guys! Always stay positive! When something doesn't work, leave it be for a moment, think, take a few breaths and let the solution come to you Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 19, 2015 Author #79 Posted June 19, 2015 Good evening everyone so I have made a first attempt to rig the tackles for the cannons. What do you guys think. It looks quite pleasing to the eye but I need something for fake blocks... Harvey, egkb, Waitoa and 1 other 4 Quote
Barbossa Posted June 21, 2015 #80 Posted June 21, 2015 Hi Lukas, Nice work and very pleasing indeed as finding blocks or even faking them at 1/150 scale is quite challenging, I'm afraid. If I were in your place ( but you' re the captain ) why not use a smaller caliber of thread/wire ? As far as you can prevent the thread from twisting, of course. Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement)
Lukasvdb Posted June 21, 2015 Author #81 Posted June 21, 2015 Thanks Christian! The problem is that is is the finest thread I have: 0,1mm but it thikker in reality I think... I have bought some copperwire of 0,3 mm which seems much finer that I am planning to use on the smallest cannons. The thread is fine for the 18 pounders and because it will be hard to see when it's all coverd up. I tried with the copper wire but I'm not experienced enough to handle it at this moment. That's why I decided to use the thread, for the sake of progress and avoiding frustration Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 26, 2015 Author #82 Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Hi everyone, possible last post for a couple of weeks, because I will move to my own place in two weeks. I have gotten to a point where I can let the beauty rest for a while. I am happy with the progress! This is how she is now: (mind that I still have to tidy up the ends of the tackles and stuff) Thanks and see you in a couple of weeks! grtz Lukas Edited June 27, 2015 by Lukasvdb Beef Wellington, docidle, dgbot and 6 others 9 Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 27, 2015 Author #83 Posted June 27, 2015 Thank you for the likes dgbot & Barbossa! Quote
stevetuck56 Posted June 30, 2015 #84 Posted June 30, 2015 hello lukasvdb , just started following your build of the superbe you are doing a wonderful job ., I have just received mine , hope I can do as fine a job., I have also been following blue ensigns ., your right there is a gold mine of information there ., I really like your figure head , could you tell me , where you buy these from please ., cheer,s mate steve. Quote
Lukasvdb Posted June 30, 2015 Author #85 Posted June 30, 2015 Hi Steve, Good luck with your build! I'm sure you will do a great job just be patient and if you get frustrated or upset that something is not going the way you like to, let it rest for a while and continue a couple of days later. She is a beauty if you put some time and patience into her I bought the figures for the figurehead here: http://www.amazon.de/Zvezda-500788068-Historische-Figuren-Set-Spartiates/dp/B004VUL24S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1435694212&sr=8-4&keywords=zvezda+figuren here you can see a very clear review: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/review.aspx?id=1848 I just combined some parts of different figures until I had one that was to my liking! Regards, Lukas. Quote
stevetuck56 Posted July 1, 2015 #86 Posted July 1, 2015 thankyou lukasvdb ., I had a quick look on the zvezda sight ., but didn't see them., I should have a bit if fun with these , cheer's steve Quote
Lukasvdb Posted February 18, 2016 Author #87 Posted February 18, 2016 To be continued soon! docidle 1 Quote
Lukasvdb Posted March 4, 2016 Author #88 Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Hi everyone! So I have finished rigging the cannons on the upper gun deck. Now I have to finish them off by making rope coils laid out on deck. Does anybody have an idea how to make them? I have tried but am not satisfied with the results. Thanks! Edited March 5, 2016 by Lukasvdb Quote
Lukasvdb Posted March 5, 2016 Author #89 Posted March 5, 2016 Some update pictures! ScottRC, coxswain, WackoWolf and 7 others 10 Quote
Ray1981 Posted March 6, 2016 #90 Posted March 6, 2016 Looks very nice Lukas! Seems like a great job Quote
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