jim_smits Posted November 2, 2016 Share #871 Posted November 2, 2016 I ditched all the cast items and photoetch and used strips and tubes of styrene instead. Bit of effort but looked better. Think there should be some pics in my snake log. drtrap 1 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share #872 Posted November 2, 2016 Finally I bought those copper sheets of 0,3mm and 0,5mm. No brass sheet or strips in the area to deal with.. It;s better to handle and cut the 0,3mm using simple scissor, so tha's my choise. Beef Wellington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share #873 Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I'm quite satisfied from my first attempts to stimulate the boom irons. This is my 1st cut strip of 22mm to stimulate the irons. I've tried two methods just to see wha's the best for me in practise... I'm showing you the consecutive steps of the first one. I think that these steps is easy do be understood. Making the iron of the yard dummy and after that the respective one for the stunsail dummy Taken from another angle... Could you tell me what;s the indicative best distance "x" between the red lines, for my Snake?? Another pic And here you are the preliminary result.. Of course in need for iron soldering Edited November 6, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share #874 Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) The second method is by calculating the distance of every circle for the iron using the yard diameter and the rule of "3,14"... Here without space or distance between the yard and stunsail dummies... The iron for the yard first using clockwise turn I've used a tape to stabilize the two dowels how you see Here is the counterclockwise turn for the iron of the stunsail, from a posterior view And the anterior view Thank you for your comments in advance, just to help me how to proceed. Edited November 2, 2016 by Stergios Beef Wellington and mort stoll 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share #875 Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) My main concern is about the strength of those 0,3mm strips against possible tension and other forces from the rest of rigging etc...?? Of course I'll stabilize the yards to the masts using 1,5mm brass wire. Edited November 3, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 3, 2016 Share #876 Posted November 3, 2016 My main concern is about the strength of those 0,3mm strips against possible tension and other forces from the rest of rigging etc...?? Of course I'll stailize the yards to the masts using 1,5mm brass wire. The stuns'l booms don't have any rigging so nothing to worry about there,they are really just decorative in this simplified representation. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share #877 Posted November 3, 2016 Thank you Jason. I know that you follow the whole literature regarding the rigging and the other procedures. have you any idea about the distance "x" between the yards and stunsail boom? I think to go with the second method (no space between them) to fit the irons. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 3, 2016 Share #878 Posted November 3, 2016 You will need a gap, much smaller toward the center of the yard, but increases on the outer boom iron - simply because the yards are tapered, but the stuns'l booms should be horizontal. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share #879 Posted November 3, 2016 That;s my final approach for the yards stunsail boom irons. Of course the fittings of these pics are unpainted and in need of touch up... Thanks. mort stoll, foxy, Robin Lous and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted November 4, 2016 Share #880 Posted November 4, 2016 Nice work and very fitting, I assume these are for port and starboard yards, as you know you only need one per side, with a boom ring at each end. Looking good. Frank drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share #881 Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Nice work and very fitting, I assume these are for port and starboard yards, as you know you only need one per side, with a boom ring at each end. Looking good. Frank Hi Frank and thanks for the comment. Those are just two dowels dummies just to stimulate in practice yard's and stunsail's assembly. The real dowels are in a safe place!... Edited November 6, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share #882 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Hi everybody the yards factory has started. Thinking to go with the blocks first and to continue with the foot ropes. I'll leave the section of the irons for the final stage. I hope to have your agreement on those steps. Thanks PS: The main yard with its marked blocks-ropes and irons attachments. I'm thinking to fix three foot ropes at each half yard at a distance of 2,5 cm. Edited December 10, 2016 by Stergios jim_smits, egkb, mort stoll and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 10, 2016 Share #883 Posted December 10, 2016 Seems a good approach Stergios, good luck. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share #884 Posted December 11, 2016 Seems a good approach Stergios, good luck. Hey Jason thank you for the support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share #885 Posted December 14, 2016 Hi Snake-partners May I ask you about those J-L-B-J fittings..... those are two seperate sets of fittings/ropes or a single one with all the blocks included? Any idea or tutorial on how to deal with them? Thank you in advance!!Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share #886 Posted December 15, 2016 Hi Snake-partners May I ask you about those J-L-B-J fittings..... those are two seperate sets of fittings/ropes or a single one with all the blocks included? Any idea or tutorial on how to deal with them? Thank you in advance!! Stergios ...any help for the J-L-B-J block-complex guys? I can't find any tip... Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share #887 Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) ...any help for the J-L-B-J block-complex guys? I can't find any tip... Thanks again. I think I'm looking a tip for that main yard's lift... Edited December 15, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 15, 2016 Share #888 Posted December 15, 2016 I'm not near my model or plans, but I can tell you that Peterson rigging book is much more usefully illustrated, I used the plans only for belaying locations as the details are not completely clear. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted December 16, 2016 Share #889 Posted December 16, 2016 from what I remember - it was over 2 years ago - I mostly followed the plans with Peterson at my side the entire way. I probably made the lifts per the illustration but I don't recall, the model is at my sister in laws house. mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share #890 Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Jason, Mort Thank you my friends, I do appreciate so much your assistance. In the meantime, the yards-factory is running.. Edited December 17, 2016 by Stergios jim_smits and mort stoll 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share #891 Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) This is my personal point of view for the double blocks of 5 and 7 mm at each edge of the main yard... Edited December 17, 2016 by Stergios mort stoll and Beef Wellington 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share #892 Posted December 17, 2016 ...and for the lifts.... egkb, mort stoll and Beef Wellington 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share #893 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) That's my 1st (main) yard with its boomsail irons in place. I'm quite satisfied witht the initial results. Thank you. PS: The 3mm dowel is just a guide for the right placement of all the irons. A 45 degrees inclination is required. Edited December 19, 2016 by Stergios Beef Wellington, jim_smits and mort stoll 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted December 20, 2016 Share #894 Posted December 20, 2016 Looks great Stergios! Remember feeling accomplished when I got my first yard fully done. Just have to look forward to fitting the parrals....! drtrap 1 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share #895 Posted December 24, 2016 Looks great Stergios! Remember feeling accomplished when I got my first yard fully done. Just have to look forward to fitting the parrals....! Thanks Jim, it was a really great experience to have almost done the main yard. Go ahed for the parrals!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share #896 Posted December 24, 2016 Almost done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share #897 Posted December 24, 2016 Now, it's time for the foot ropes... Jason, finaly did you go with four or six stirrups per yard? Thank you. Merry Christmas to everybody!! Tadeusz43, Beef Wellington, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 24, 2016 Share #898 Posted December 24, 2016 Stergios - went with three stirrups on the main yard only becasue of its size, just two in the foreyard. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share #899 Posted January 8, 2017 A couple of pics showing the initial progress with the basic yards. In need of a final touch up, of course... ccoyle, Tony H, coxswain and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted April 5, 2017 Share #900 Posted April 5, 2017 I just ordered my HMS Snake a few day ago, I will definitely be following you build! drtrap and Tony H 2 Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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