lamarvalley Posted February 25, 2013 #1 Posted February 25, 2013 This is my first build of a sailed ship and my first build log. I am sure help will be needed along the way. Randy SkerryAmp and maddog33 2 Quote
fish Posted February 25, 2013 #2 Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Hey Randy, I am also working on this build. It looks like you are off to a good start, I see that you have beveled down the bulkheads near the bow. Have you considered using balsa to fill in the space between bulkheads 1 & 2 and 2 & 3? It will make a big difference when you get to installing your planking. Also have you spent some time studying the planking tutorial on this site? This model is single planked which can be unforgiving and difficult. I opted to change my build to double plank because of this difficulty. If you are looking for logs as a reference, check out Shazmira's log as well as mine. We are both working on this kit and she has also changed to double plank. Also you can search for vulcanbomber's build, she built the SF I, but a lot of the same procedures apply. -Aaron Edited February 25, 2013 by fish Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
fish Posted February 25, 2013 #3 Posted February 25, 2013 Randy, I dont blame you on wanting to keep it single planked, there were a lot of single planked kits on here and they all turned out nice. Feel free to message me if you have any issues or concerns. -Aaron Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
Shazmira Posted February 26, 2013 #4 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Randy, looks like she is coming along nicely. And you will probably want to follow Aaron's advice and fill inbetween those bulkheads, especially since you are going to single plank her. It gives you much more surface to glue to around thoses dangerous curves at the bow and stern. Good luck, I will check in often to see how you are progressing. Edited February 26, 2013 by Shazmira Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
fish Posted February 26, 2013 #5 Posted February 26, 2013 Randy, Is there a Michaels craft store or HobbyLobby near you? They usually sell balsa and basswood. -Aaron Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
fish Posted February 26, 2013 #6 Posted February 26, 2013 Randy, There is a new log up today of a VERY nice single planked SF 2. Check it out, it looks like the author is doing a superb job. -Aaron Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
DesertWolf Posted February 27, 2013 #7 Posted February 27, 2013 Randy, You are off to a good start. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Very nice keel holder. Did you buy it at a hobby store? Wolf Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL)
fish Posted March 1, 2013 #8 Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Randy, Is your balsa sanded down enough? Check it by holding up a plank right under the bulwark and one right above it on the bulwark, they should be flush. Also, if you haven't done this already, hold a plank up to the bulkheads and make sure the plank rests on each bulkhead. Do this a several locations. If it doesn't sit flush, bevel it so it does, this will make a huge difference once you start planking. Aaron Edited March 1, 2013 by fish Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
Shazmira Posted March 2, 2013 #9 Posted March 2, 2013 Randy, she looks ready, and so are you.....just remember this is a long slow process, and there is a learning curve to it. Take your time and you will do fine! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
DesertWolf Posted March 5, 2013 #10 Posted March 5, 2013 Good luck with the planking! Patience is all you need. I added a filler block at the stern as well - it made it a lot easier to get planks to sit flush with one another throughout the curves. Wolf Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL)
sport29652 Posted March 5, 2013 #11 Posted March 5, 2013 When I planked my hull the tough curves were made easier by only doing the bullheaded at a time. Later in the build I would use planks that were full length. In hindsight I wish I would have kept the shorter plank patten going it looks allot better with the contrasting colors on the hull Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
sephirem Posted March 6, 2013 #12 Posted March 6, 2013 What I did for mine is soak then bend around a can like a corn can then clamp till dry. Once dry its easier to form around the hull and nail/glue in place. Butting the head of a tack in the keel helps hold in place as well. Quote TimCurrent builds: San Fran II AL, Santa Maria AL Finished Builds: Sharpie Shooner Midwest
Ashen Posted March 6, 2013 #13 Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Hi Lamarvalley, I did the same as you, no nails and staggarded plank, I think you'll find it will work well! In regards to bending planks, is it quick and/or easy to soak and clamp around a can? I used a method of soaking in boiling water, then bending it with a soldering iron. Later on I found a laundry iron also worked and was reasonable quick. I'm not sure if this is the best way as i'm not an expert, but it seemed to work. Hope to see more updates soon. Ashen Edited March 6, 2013 by Ashen Quote
Shazmira Posted March 7, 2013 #14 Posted March 7, 2013 Randy she is looking good!!!! You have a great start!!! Kudos for being brave and doing a single plank, my hat is off to you. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
sport29652 Posted March 7, 2013 #15 Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Get a planking iron, they are worth every penny. I tried my wife's curling iron and the clothes iron and finally after burning myself a ton I found this at a model train store. It has an adjustable temp on it and because of the flat head it really made forming on the hull easy Edited March 7, 2013 by sport29652 Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
Jean-Pierre Posted March 7, 2013 #16 Posted March 7, 2013 This planking looks excellent indeed. And with a lateral bend of rather wide planks. Congratulations. One question: do you clamp the planks to the former row of planks while drying. Wherever possible, this is the way to ensure that no plank sticks out. By the way, I just finished a second planking with no less than 102 full length planks at midships, with not a single damping/wetting/steaming/heating/burning (myself), just with my dear Amati nipper. And there also was quite a lot of side bending to do (on almost evry single plank). Keep on with the good job: your San Francisco will become one of the best around! jp Quote
sport29652 Posted March 13, 2013 #17 Posted March 13, 2013 good job, looks like youll be done planking in no time. Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
Adrieke Posted March 13, 2013 #18 Posted March 13, 2013 that looks liek a very handy tool. do you steam bend the planks with it when they are on the ship ? Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80
Adrieke Posted March 14, 2013 #19 Posted March 14, 2013 i think it could come in handy for my build (bluff bow) but i l have to think about forking out $55 for it and you are doing a great job on your ship Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80
DesertWolf Posted March 18, 2013 #20 Posted March 18, 2013 Excellent job so far! Keep it up! Wolf Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL)
sport29652 Posted March 20, 2013 #21 Posted March 20, 2013 well done sir ! Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
Shazmira Posted March 20, 2013 #22 Posted March 20, 2013 I like how your door came out. I too am creating my own. How in the world did you make your door pull? I like it much better than mine Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Shazmira Posted March 28, 2013 #23 Posted March 28, 2013 The planking looks great, I would be happy with that as well. And yes this stuff is fun Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
sport29652 Posted March 28, 2013 #24 Posted March 28, 2013 I bet your hull is going to look great with all of the contrast. Really looking forward to your progress Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
hopeful Posted March 28, 2013 #25 Posted March 28, 2013 You made the planking step look easy. It is nice to have other Sanfan II builders working with you, makes life so much better! BFN Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Posted in kit build section of forum Current: Sultana (MSW) Updating the build log and continuing on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory)
themadchemist Posted March 28, 2013 #26 Posted March 28, 2013 beautiful planking job. you made it look easy. I really like the iron and at $20 thats a steal. I also like the shorter plank effect. the mixture of the grain patterns really make her look good. Glad you now can mock that box of jewlery back HA, take that you box of future ship fittings. I'm a pack rat also and love using thing for something they were never intended. The Hula hoop I fixed the washing machine with and my ex garage door and frame made grape arbor come to mind. Looking forward to watching this one grow. I love the SF's shape, but decided to cut my teeth on smaller stuff, but then I'm not an ex-cabinet maker. She on my future list though. Quote
themadchemist Posted March 28, 2013 #27 Posted March 28, 2013 Hello again Randy BTW what is the brand on that iron? I'd like to try and find one and I cant quite make out the label in the picture. Thanks Quote
themadchemist Posted March 29, 2013 #28 Posted March 29, 2013 Thanks Randy, Yea it makes me sick to look at an early '70's ticket and see $3.50. No less then 3, Excellent! Lucky you. which tours? I would of loved the see the '77 in the flesh (animals) tour, but was to young at the time. I'll have to check around for one of those irons, if it worked like that on the SF's single plank magogany, its a miracle (Ha, Waters ref). I had first ordered a SF (lucky it was out of stock) but the single plank scared me for a first attempt. I'm glad I went with the small first projects, but if one small tool makes the SF easier to hull then maybe I need to put here back in the budget, which ATM seems to be going more towards tools and wood. I'm hoping to fit the last plank on the starboard of the Swift tonight (4 left on the larboard, ugh). I'm actually starting to get the hang of the shaping, spiling and beveling though. so are you going with a gloss or matte Tung oil? I love the way tung oil brings out the colour and graining of wood. Any colour you like (sorry, cant help myself) Thanks for including the model #, i'm sure I can fine one some where. Quote
themadchemist Posted March 29, 2013 #29 Posted March 29, 2013 found online at Tower hobbies, wonder what shipping would be? http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?I=LXL499&P=8 Quote
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 29, 2013 #30 Posted March 29, 2013 Hi Randy! Nice job of planking! I like the look of the shorter planks too. Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...
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