Shazmira Posted April 30, 2013 Share #91 Posted April 30, 2013 Randy, I think the CA would actually make them more brittle while the PVA is absorbed into the grain and offers strength. When I did mine I did not use glue at all because stain and poly seem to show the dried glue, so instead I just used the clear poly to coat them and help hold them together. I have one corner of those beak gratings that still broke, I have no more to redo it, and I just decided to heck with it, I will "cover" the hole with a coil of rope or something when she is all done. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timhoffman Posted April 30, 2013 Share #92 Posted April 30, 2013 Hey, I am new here, and I am not the greatest modeler (though I hope to become one over the coming years). I just wanted to comment on the blackening of brass: washing all of the parts with detergent and then acetone may help a lot. Even the slightest bit of oil, even if it is just from your skin, will impede the blacking process (called bluing in other disciplines). Shazmira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted April 30, 2013 Share #93 Posted April 30, 2013 Acetone (100%, not finger nail polish) is the universal organic solvent. Hydrochloric Acid is a good metal etch that doesn't corrode copper or brass at a very fast rate. For best results, wash with acetone and then HCl (muratic acid at stores, for cleaning masonary). Nitric acid works well also with many metals but is hard to get. Ive also seen Phosphoric and Acetic (vinegar is 3%) Acids used in car prep. It helps paint adhesion to metal. Welcome to MSW Tim. Brittleosity... I think you mean an increase in the brittiolitic coefficient.... thats the Most correcterest way of saying it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted April 30, 2013 Share #94 Posted April 30, 2013 Speaking of Acetone and its organic properties reminds me of this "Mr know it all" in my organic chem class (no not me). Anyway he'd bought these REALLY expensive safety glasses and was bragging on how much they cost. I then watched the doofus clean them with Acetone (always in an organic lab). Can you say "permanent FOG", The lens when opaque instantly.... I never laughed so hard... I stayed on the opposite end of the lab as this guy. He was good at heating closed containers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garward Posted April 30, 2013 Share #95 Posted April 30, 2013 Speaking of Acetone and its organic properties reminds me of this "Mr know it all" in my organic chem class (no not me). Anyway he'd bought these REALLY expensive safety glasses and was bragging on how much they cost. I then watched the doofus clean them with Acetone (always in an organic lab). Can you say "permanent FOG", The lens when opaque instantly.... I never laughed so hard... I stayed on the opposite end of the lab as this guy. He was good at heating closed containers. The chemist - he also is the chemist, slightly that - organic solvents, acids... Quote Best regards, Garward Is under construction Montanes Ready models Golden Star Corsair San Francisco II Bronze 24-pdr canone Le Fleuron Bronze 24-pdr canone Le Fleuron (second version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted April 30, 2013 Share #96 Posted April 30, 2013 One of the analytical post doctoral professors at my university told me one semester (he was from the Ukraine, Garward) that at one interview they took him into a lab with ditry glasware and a stocked cabinet and said wash that glassware and they would be back in 1 hour. Cleaning glassware can be a challenge if one does not know the correct methods. Dr Nazarenko taught me much about analytical chemistry. I was his teaching assistant for one semester of quantitative analysis. That was the class that made me chose analytical as my field as an undergrad. I loved teaching the lab as a grad student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garward Posted April 30, 2013 Share #97 Posted April 30, 2013 I agree, without knowing the correct methods and receptions of performance of any work, anything good you won't make . Dr Nazarenko well taught you! Quote Best regards, Garward Is under construction Montanes Ready models Golden Star Corsair San Francisco II Bronze 24-pdr canone Le Fleuron Bronze 24-pdr canone Le Fleuron (second version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timhoffman Posted April 30, 2013 Share #98 Posted April 30, 2013 Thanks for the welcome lamarvalley, my current project is a Revell Cutty Sark (1:96) that I started years and years ago. I know that isn't much being plastic and all. I am about to graduate college next month and then I am starting another Revell Cutty Sark. My main goal there is just to get good at painting and such and I will do a build log. My overall goal is to begin modelling in wood maybe next year or so. The main thing holding me back is just cost. I am following your build log and several others too so that I can learn all I can about modelling with wood. I am extremely impressed with your workmanship too! Please, keep posting lots of photos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted April 30, 2013 Share #99 Posted April 30, 2013 ROTFLMAO - .....Randy said, Yes... yes, that's it... that coefficient doohinky (technical verbiage) was just the phrase I was seeking... like my word was any more realer then yours, I just love butchering the english language. Robbyn may not like that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 1, 2013 Share #100 Posted May 1, 2013 @timhoffman Don't worry about the Revell Plastic, most of us have done plastic models and a Cutty Sark 1:96 deserves a log, plastic or wood. There are some GREAT plastic models on MSW. Don't think less of your efforts because of its type. Plus there's no place like a log to get any help you need. Congrat's on Graduating also, WOW can't believe tomorrrows May... just think one more round and then NO MORE FINALS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 1, 2013 Share #101 Posted May 1, 2013 Realer???? really now Gee, I thought I felt my ears burning earlier today...should have known it was you two talking about me Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 1, 2013 Share #102 Posted May 1, 2013 not just realer but more realer, at least I didn't say it was the most realerest. I once had one of the HS grammar teachers grade one of my intra-class memo in front of her class (she even used a RED pen ). My scholar bowl students that were in that class told me about it later that day at lunch. I laughed. I use to spell and use horrible grammar just because it annoyed that particular teacher. SCORE! HAHAHAHAHHHHAHHhhhahahahhhahah :dancetl6: worth a chorus line of dancing pirates. Of course we're not trying to anger your wrath. Just make you smile, Reading is PHUNdumental! Hooked on Fonic worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted May 1, 2013 Share #103 Posted May 1, 2013 Geesh. Youse guys is enuff too cause someone of us to gotta laugh or sumtin. What're ya gonna do when you need to connect that whatsit on the front end to the thingy that hangs from the stick? You guys are certainly more better at reinventerating things than my kids are! Shazmira 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted May 1, 2013 Share #104 Posted May 1, 2013 Say, who learned you guys to spoke so good? Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 1, 2013 Share #105 Posted May 1, 2013 .............. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 1, 2013 Share #106 Posted May 1, 2013 ROTFLMAO that audio sample is hilarious. and I dont get it - spanish is spoken phonetically corrrect and thye use almost the same alphabet. Thats why I went math/science. Who came up with that silent "K" you no what I mean... jlheureux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 2, 2013 Share #107 Posted May 2, 2013 very nice!! and no broken bits to hide with a rope coil SkerryAmp 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport29652 Posted May 2, 2013 Share #108 Posted May 2, 2013 lookin good. Your bow lines are great Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted May 2, 2013 Share #109 Posted May 2, 2013 beautiful. and yeah a tweezer where th ebeak is padded with something would be great . i had the same issue installing th eshutters on my kom . had to get the small brush out to retouch them Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 3, 2013 Share #110 Posted May 3, 2013 I have seen some tweezers with a rubberized tip for sale on some site or another, but sorry I can't tell you where. I swear I have been everywhere on the internet when it comes to modeling supplies and tools. I like your ladders, sailors wont have trouble with the stairs being too close to the guns now. Major diff between this kit, and one Chuck has written instructions for...in his, he has included the forethought. Instructs you to drill here, or drill there, and then 30 steps later when it is time to install something, the holes are already there! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 3, 2013 Share #111 Posted May 3, 2013 Elders rotflmao...wonder if Chuck will be told about that post Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 3, 2013 Share #112 Posted May 3, 2013 Elder, is that a nice name for Old Fart? I like the ladder change and I'm with Robbyn on the It prevents the Ladder gun cramping.Try wrapping your tweezer ends with cloth medical tape. Tammy also has this plastic dip stuff, you dip then let it dry to a rubber coating. That way you can coat any tool. kinda like this http://www.amazon.com/Rubberized-Plastic-Coating-Black-Coating/dp/B000VS2HMK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 3, 2013 Share #113 Posted May 3, 2013 Oh nice work on the beak gratings also. Thats got to be a hard part to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 8, 2013 Share #114 Posted May 8, 2013 I recall a discussion, probably on the place to be, Robbyn's , about NOT fixing the deadeyes in until the angle could be set with the 'raising of the mast ' ceremony... That will be next week or so and I'm hoping my wife and college age girls will attend and salute for such and occasion but I fear there will be little pomp and absolutely no circumstance for the event. They have no real appreciation for the sea and the shipyard... go figure Last night when I completed the lanyards on my first shroud, I let out a whoop and a fist pump. Other half just looked at me from the recliner and asked me if I was hurt Some people just don't get it Randy , good thing we have MSW The deadeyes and chainplates are looking good. When I got my masts and the shroud lines up, then I could see the angle the chainplates needed to go. I was also at that time able to see where they would fall in regards to the gun ports. I had a couple that would have extended right over the center of those ports, so I just shortened the chain. I did this by sticking one of the brass nails between the twist above the port and nailing it to the ship. a spot of CA to keep it all together and an unceremonious snip of the excess chainplate. I know, I know, NOT historically accurate, but without a magnifying glass you can't see that the nail is not driven through a "loop" at the end of the chainplate anyway. I only had a tiny channel between the rubbing strake and the port frame anyway. mtaylor and Cuda1949 2 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 11, 2013 Share #115 Posted May 11, 2013 seriously, wood or metal? dont make me break out the double dog dare again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 11, 2013 Share #116 Posted May 11, 2013 BTW, Nice job on her so far. Gun rigging looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport29652 Posted May 12, 2013 Share #117 Posted May 12, 2013 I triple dog dare you ; ) Lookin good, have you though about what your next build will be? Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 12, 2013 Share #118 Posted May 12, 2013 When in question, your asking yourselve for permission. Only you know, permission for what? Just remember, it isn't a race and the last one done IS NOT a rotten egg. The longer it takes, the more economical the hobby is also. Unless you spend extra on wood, but I can justify that as this is MY hobby and ALL my excuses are OK. So are YOURS. Do what you feel. In the infamous word's of that great statesman Jimney Cricket - ....and always let your conscience be your guide.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted May 12, 2013 Share #119 Posted May 12, 2013 its a beautiful build Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 13, 2013 Share #120 Posted May 13, 2013 Looking very nice Randy, keep it up and I know you will be proud of her! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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