DesertWolf Posted May 25, 2013 Share #151 Posted May 25, 2013 Your build is coming along nicely. It looks fantastic. Now will you stop it will all the spectacular modifications? Every time I see one of your mods I think to myself "yeah I need to do that too..." - and right there another month to completion is added Shazmira 1 Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tophog Posted June 4, 2013 Share #152 Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks for the nice Birthday wishes it is always nice. Quote Geoffrey Watson (aka Pigdaddy) Current Build - Viking Ship: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14393-viking-ship-by-geoffrey-watson-hobby-line-scale-140-second-wooden-ship-build/#entry446396 Past Builds - The Nina by (Mini) Mamoli: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/gallery/album/295-nina-by-tophog-mini-mamoli/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 4, 2013 Share #153 Posted June 4, 2013 Ok Randy....where are the pics and the updates???? Inquiring minds and all Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 5, 2013 Share #154 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Hum after all the rope discussion I decided to see what AL was putting in the SF1 kit for roping. Hum, looks semi-decent, but those crows nest are SO bad and that boat is even worse. But the old style cannons are one of the reason I decided yes on the SF1. Edited June 5, 2013 by themadchemist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 5, 2013 Share #155 Posted June 5, 2013 Oh BTW, ME has the lifeboats on sale again with code free13 for $2 http://www.modelexpo-online.com/search.asp Figured that 3 3/4'' one would work for the SF kit. Shazmira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted June 5, 2013 Share #156 Posted June 5, 2013 that boat looks like the same one in my endeavour kit . atleast the idea there is to plank it completly lol Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 5, 2013 Share #157 Posted June 5, 2013 are the gunport doors 2 piece on the SF2? Frame and door? I wonder how many kits they used that one in Adrieke. I've actually been rather impressed with the AL parts, but both the swift and SF1 were older versions. How much has AL changed over time on parts quality/design I wonder. I nearly bought an AL Endeavor for $50 off ebay, it was local enough to drive to pickup. What stopped me was the bulkheads had been glued and looked twisted, I didn't want the headache of fixing that. Isnt the AL Endeavor discontinued now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 5, 2013 Share #158 Posted June 5, 2013 At least those crow's nests are made of wood...easy enough for you (Keith) to modify to no look so clunky. Rope looks much better than the crap I got. The boat sucks, get the $2 one, or make your own, you know you can. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted June 5, 2013 Share #159 Posted June 5, 2013 Isnt the AL Endeavor discontinued now? i know it wasnt available for awhile. thats why when i saw they had it in stock again at the hobbystore i bought it (without informing the admiral ) Shazmira 1 Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted June 6, 2013 Share #160 Posted June 6, 2013 wow what a difference . hmm Randy not fair now i am thinking of having to buy better thread for the "endy" Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted June 7, 2013 Share #161 Posted June 7, 2013 ill decide this weekend get a good close up look of the thread provided to determine how good or bad it is Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 7, 2013 Share #162 Posted June 7, 2013 Trust me Adriaan, it is worth it...sooo much nicer rope than what Al gives you!!! Shrouds look very nice Randy, good and even too. Great start!!!! Got my second order from Morope today...I ordered .80mm and 1.5 mm, this stuff now is closer in size to what the kit provided. I think its nice tight twist will make all the standing and running rigging look much more neat and clean. I will have to wax and stretch it all tomorrow, so it will be ready to go when I am ready next week. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 7, 2013 Share #163 Posted June 7, 2013 Wow, huge difference on the two ropes. Thats will make a huge difference in the finished Florencia and after all she deserves only the best. Guess I'll have to add rigging rope to my list now. Shrouds look good and no more fuzzy caterillars. Most Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted June 10, 2013 Share #164 Posted June 10, 2013 going well Randy Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 11, 2013 Share #165 Posted June 11, 2013 She still looks clean and neat, even though the deadeyes are twisting on you. I used a couple drops of CA on the lower deadeyes to stop that, trade off...close ups show the glue Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport29652 Posted June 11, 2013 Share #166 Posted June 11, 2013 Looks good randy. I noticed some line tags on the shrouds. I used a good sharp pair of fingernail clippers to get mine close Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 11, 2013 Share #167 Posted June 11, 2013 Hi Randy, SF is clearly improving in beauty... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 13, 2013 Share #168 Posted June 13, 2013 Looks good with the shouds all tied down. Excellent work my friend. It's sometimes aggravating to always be upgrading a kit. I'm looking into boxwood or holly for the MS Pinnace and the wood will be more then the kit....but thats my problem due to my exacting standards and the look I want. I don't even want to know what that cheapo $32 Swift kit from ebay has cost me due to extra parts, because by golly I love it and it loves me back. sorta like a dog. Somethings you just can't price.... Building a great ship isn't easy, especially as one soon learns all the upgrades available, its hard not to want better. Money is only dirty green paper anyway and a ship build is a family heirloom of pride for years to come or maybe just an outlet of artistic out-pourings, either way, no one but you forces excellence upon yourself in a hobby and I find it better to forgive myself for indulgences. Guilt ruins the hobby aspect/effect. Besides, you used the OEM planking at least and it's still beautiful (page #5, post 62... I view it often, just magnificent) sport29652 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 13, 2013 Share #169 Posted June 13, 2013 I flashed back to #62 to check the post number and I agree. She's darked a bit, guess that tung oils settling in the wood. I love that stuff. Being a good steward over money is a given, but life is short and hobbies/fun is an important budget concern. I'd never suggest taking food from the mouth of your children (don't even know if you have kids), but I'd rather spend it on Ship stuff then cable TV, which we disconnected in 2005. Its all a matter of priorities and everyones different. I never considered roping and use to think who'd need a rope walk, its funny how 6 months changes you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 13, 2013 Share #170 Posted June 13, 2013 Florencia is a she also WOW, 3 college educations. Thats more then the GNP of some poorer nations these days. Neuroscience is some really cool stuff. My analytical chem bordered on bio-chem/pharma type stuff. There's alot to still learn about how it all works. Its funny to think that when I started my education they were just starting the Human Genome project and it finished before I did. I started school in 94 at the age of 30, I was a slow starter. It's tough to keep up, I was just pricing a Lehninger Biochem text just the other day as we've learned a lot in the decade since my Text edition was published a decade ago. After the Victoza thing I've been restudying the metabolic pathways. Sadly most research scientists are 15 years ahead of health care and MD's. MD's forget they are scientists and must keep up. I tried to get a PubMed access from many MD's and none pay for it. So who reads all the journal literature I can't access and was paid for by tax money, sheesh! Seriously, I'm twice published in Analytical Chemistry journal and I can NOT access my own papers, and they were funded by NSF and NIH grants. I had to change diagrams in my thesis or ask the journal permission to use my own diagrams. ARGH! Thats why hobbys are necessary, life sometimes can get heavy and one needs to know when to work and when to play. lamarvalley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted June 13, 2013 Share #171 Posted June 13, 2013 Loving this build, the color is so good. Nice and rich!! And am learning too... learning that I need to learn about ropes I guess. The AL vs morope comparison should be used as marketing for whatever the heck morope is. Off to try to get some learning on ropes. I think I may have to see about upgrading my strings Thanks a lot!! :P :P :P :P -Adam Shazmira 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 13, 2013 Share #172 Posted June 13, 2013 Just came across your log Randy, some excellent work and a fine looking model. I also live around Cincinnati, near Lebanon, and wondered if you knew if there was a modeling club nearby? All I have seen is the RC clubs. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 14, 2013 Share #173 Posted June 14, 2013 Yeh, that sounds about right! The model shop at Dayton mall is about the same, a big selection of plastic models but about 1/2 dozen wooden ones which never seem to change. We should ask around MSW and see if there are any more people around that we maybe able to start our own little club??? I know there is a club in Columbus but I dont want to travel that far. Ben Pm me if you wish to discuss. Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 22, 2013 Share #174 Posted June 22, 2013 Poor Randy...I just don't know what to say...honestly, tying the clove hitches using a needle really is very easy. I had no difficulties at all with the ratlines, unlike the stupid shrouds lol. Maybe whe should ship each other our SF's, you do the shrouds and I do the rats As for psychiatric hospitals, I believe ANYONE involved in this hobby should probably be committed to one, after all, I think we are gluttons for punishment aren't we. Besides, isn't the very definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, and each time expecting a different result? I'd say that pretty much covers you, me, Keith, Sjors, and I don't know how many others who do it, tear it out, re-do it, and then maybe tear it out again lol Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 23, 2013 Share #175 Posted June 23, 2013 Good decision Randy... Your courage and patience are worthy of esteem... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 25, 2013 Share #176 Posted June 25, 2013 I apologize. you see I may have inadvertantly caused that - One snip, and down the hole we fall, It seems to take no time at all, 4 momentary lapses of reason..... I kinda was hoping you'd pull the shrouds and my thoughts could have influenced your scissors. Not that it was poorly done, its just Florencia deserves the best. She's headed for greatness. As far as the insane asylum, I thought that was MSW's role in all this. So who plays the role of MSW's nurse Ratched? We're all One Flew Over The Crow's Nest around here, Ship building drive one mad, luckily I was already infected, typhoid tmc. Let the madness ensue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 25, 2013 Share #177 Posted June 25, 2013 WOW 2 hits. - 2 for 2. I hated those twisted wire chains also. I think we must think alot alike. IIRC I've remember you complaining about them before. I question if that one snip wasn't accidently on purpose. Insane people sometime need to have a justifiable reason and a cut shoud, well what better reason to NEED all new roping. All this is going to make Florencia an amazing first build. Stepping backwards isn't always the wrong thing and the AL rope wasn't wasted, just think of it as practice roping, another great justification. Never underestimate the human ability to justify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 25, 2013 Share #178 Posted June 25, 2013 Have a look here: http://www.agesofsail.com/ecommerce/fittings.html?limit=99&order=name&dir=asc&p=6 Take your pick Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 25, 2013 Share #179 Posted June 25, 2013 Doing a bit of research, here's a nice looking chain setup, of course its about 100 years newer also as the San Felipe is late 1600's vs. Florencias later 1500's. Don't know if its historically correct either, but then does anyone? http://sanfelipe1690.blogspot.com/2012/12/gun-port-lids-and-chain-plates.html and another on a 1:1 replica http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?163691-Spainish-galleon-replica-visits-St-Augustine-FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 25, 2013 Share #180 Posted June 25, 2013 if you follow that link on the replica ship it says The ship is owned by Nao Victoria Foundation in Spain and is an authentic 495-ton wooden replica of a galleon that was part of Spain's 16th century West Indies fleet.So its closer to the correct time period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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