jack.aubrey Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share #271 Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Tuesday, August 30th, 2016 Having recently finished another model (the Gokstad Viking Ship) I have resumed the shipyard of HMS Guadeloupe . . my long term project. I needed some time to reorganize my mind about the tasks to be accomplished and I decided to complete the elements that I was working on before temporary closing the shipyard: the ship boats, launchs and lifeboats. Now I'm workin' on the longboat, the larger of the three. Before closing the yard this was the situation: 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100393_zps7wuwc84s.jpg So, I started to double the hull frames, as shown in the following picture . . 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160827_105221_zpstw7zhvhn.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160827_105229_zpswznoyasa.jpg and then began to set up the internal fittings . . 04 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160830_085054_zpslv6l2nvw.jpg 05 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160830_085045_zpshibifvqk.jpg 06 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160830_085103_zpsqxjwbq6x.jpg After this step, I applied my usual wood oil on the internal sides, to hughlight the wood colour, last three images are shot after this task. Regards, Jack.Aubrey. Edited September 9, 2017 by jack.aubrey yvesvidal, cog, Bob Legge and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share #272 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Sunday, September 4th, 2016 I've been three days in the hospital for an invasive medical examination. So my modelling tasks had a stop for a while, but yesterday I resumed the ship boat and added some new elements . . . Here below some of them. Rgds, Jack. 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160903_190438_zpsg1c4e7pk.jpg 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160903_190355_zpslwju1qq1.jpg Edited September 9, 2017 by jack.aubrey mtaylor, yvesvidal and Bob Legge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 4, 2016 Share #273 Posted September 4, 2016 Sorry about the delay in responding to your post of June 14, but somehow I missed it. The draught must represent the ship as she appeared at the date on the plan. Were the guns added after the date of the lines being taken off? She has sufficient ports pierced for 16 guns. mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted September 4, 2016 Share #274 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Often, fitting out had much to do with proper internal accomidations. Many "foreign" brigs lacked a full berth deck, having only a fore and aft platform. (The technical difference between a "brig-sloop" and a "gun-brig" in British service is the presence of a full berth deck.) French vessels, even public navy ones, did not have the proper, permanent cabins and bulkheads below ships. One of the things that the RN changed at the first opportunity, was adding proper gun-deck and berth deck knees. The French just dove-tailed the beams into oversized clamps, and dispensed with most of the knees. This saved weight to gain speed, but did not make them strong or durable. The RN put proper knees in, because they had some hard-grinding blockading to do . The draught above does show gun-ports made for carronades, as they have no upper cills, the sides just mortised into the bottom of the cap rail. This was done to gain height, so the fully elevated carronade would clear. Did she have carronades when taken, or long guns? Edited September 4, 2016 by uss frolick mtaylor, Bob Legge and druxey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share #275 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Sorry about the delay in responding to your post of June 14, but somehow I missed it. The draught must represent the ship as she appeared at the date on the plan. Were the guns added after the date of the lines being taken off? She has sufficient ports pierced for 16 guns. My thought (o assumption) is that the original guns (although if it seems that Le Nisus ordnance wasn't complete) were totally replaced by the english carronades. In fact I have prepared the english pattern carronades (14 pieces) plus 2 x 6pdr long guns at prow. Edited September 6, 2016 by jack.aubrey druxey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share #276 Posted September 5, 2016 Did she have carronades when taken, or long guns? The right armament, when taken by RN, is unknown. The only info known it that the armament was "imcomplete". This because the ship was sent on sea, not fully equipped, probably in hurry with a strategic mission to bring to Guadeloupe some supplies in relief of the attacked island. Rgds, Jack. mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted September 5, 2016 Share #277 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) William James, in his "Naval History of Great Britain", Vol. 5, page 45-6, says: "...The French 16-gun Brig Corvette Nisus, Captaine de fregate Jacques-Gabriel La Netrel, was observed lying at an anchor, under the protection of a fort ...the Nisus had sailed from Lorient on the 30th of October with a cargo of flour, had arrived at the Hayes on the 1st of September, and, when captured, was agin ready for sea with a cargo off coffee. Being a fine brig of 337 tons, the Nisus was added to the British Navy, under the appropriate name of Guadeloupe ..." If James says "16-guns" then she probably mounted that number, as he was usually very accurate about such things. Edited September 5, 2016 by uss frolick mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share #278 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Monday, September 5th, 2016 Another small step forward on the ship launch . . 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160906_090708_zps4w8xzlnm.jpg 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160906_090756_zpsumfeyeyw.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160906_090714_zpstp7vxila.jpg 04 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160906_090744_zps08topydh.jpg 05 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160906_090657_zpsageocajs.jpg Regards, Jack.Aubrey PS: regarding my hospital stay, everything went well and, matter much more important, there was nothing wrong. Thanks to everybody. Edited September 9, 2017 by jack.aubrey druxey, Bob Legge, Landrotten Highlander and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share #279 Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Monday, September 12th, 2016 A new step in adding details to the longboat . . it is a very interesting, amusing and relaxing task, provided your have a lot of patience . . 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160912_122945_zpsqxbrqec1.jpg 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160912_123156_zpswnwq1wru.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160912_123209_zpsdnxjpyvp.jpg 04 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160912_123124_zpspl7igkly.jpg Edited September 9, 2017 by jack.aubrey mtaylor, Timmo and Bob Legge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share #280 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) Added the rudder and some other small details . . . now a coat of clear matt paint and then it's time to proceed with the second boat . . 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160916_205406_zpslqmygcaw.jpg 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160916_205713_zpsrj5hzvd6.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20160916_205348_zps4g1zac0d.jpg Edited September 9, 2017 by jack.aubrey Landrotten Highlander, Mirabell61, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share #281 Posted September 9, 2017 Saturday, September 9th, 2017 Important Notice Today I successfully recovered all the images of this topic so, from now on, all the images here published are well visible as before. It was a hard work, but should be complete and reliable. Thank you in advance for your patience. See you soon, Jack.Aubrey Landrotten Highlander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share #282 Posted October 14, 2017 Tuesday, October 10, 2017 I've been in Tuscany for about twenty days now. In this period I started thinking about my next model, which will begin here and, most likely, will be finished when I'll return to Cinisello (Milan). I don't want to anticipate anything about the new project right now, just think that I have already purchased the materials and I'm waiting for its arrival. In the meantime, I arranged to complete the remaining two Guadeloupe's boats. I started with the intermediate size boat. In the first image we can see the boat still fastened to its building slip. It has been in this state for almost a couple of years. . 01 P1100390_zpszajvd15m.JPG The first activity I did was to unplug the boat in order to work inside. Thanks to the use of the mini drill with a cutting tool, this happened without any problems. Then I arranged to "fix" the outer wood color with a coat of oil for wood. This operation avoids that some drops of glue not properly removed, at a finishing stage may alter the wood color. The application of the oil, however, doesn't absolutely inhibit the use of vinyl glue. The picture below shows the color difference of the timber after having applied the oil. 02 20171001_215300.jpg Then the work inside the hull began: the first activity was to double the number of hull ribs; task long enough considering their number and size but it's quite well done. Subsequently the installation of the bottomwoods. . and the longitudinal seat supports. 03 20171001_215313.jpg Then, the central seats, including reinforcements where provided, bow and stern, and finally the gunwales. Now the bigger tasks are over, although there is still enough work to be done, including the final finishing of what has been done so far. 04 20171011_102921.jpg 05 20171011_102928.jpg 06 20171011_102949.jpg But this will be matter of the next posts . . Cordiality, Jack. Bob Legge, John Allen, yvesvidal and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odival Posted July 20, 2018 Share #283 Posted July 20, 2018 Hi Jack, I hope I'm not hijacking the topic, but I downloaded most profiles and plans for these ships however its hard to interpret the lower decks and I never saw good pics of a model that actually includes that part - except for the attached picture below, from the Le Esperance. Since you seem so knowledgeable and acquired so many resources on these ships, I wonder if you could help me by sharing some details about the interior decks of the Nisus or its sister ships? aviaamator and yvesvidal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share #284 Posted July 21, 2018 Hi Odival The ANCRE plans and other materials I researched do not show the lower decks for this class of ships. But at the National Maritime Museum of Greewich I found some plans that were taken by the Royal Navy after capture of some of them. In these plans there are somo additional details such as dispositions of the lower decks, as you ask. I attach some images of these plans, that you may request to NMM, where you can see these details, so you can evaluate if this is what you need of not. Regards, Jack. el cid, Bob Legge, aviaamator and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odival Posted July 21, 2018 Share #285 Posted July 21, 2018 Thank you very much Jack! I'll try and interpret these plants the best I can! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share #286 Posted May 18, 2019 Saturday 18 May 2019 I returned from Tuscany to Cinisello a few days ago and I'am now involved in many matters raised during my absence from Cinisello. I believe as soon as possible to finally resume some real kind of dhip modeling. I am publishing the latest news about this model which, due to the various location changes, has been a little forgotten, preferring other models that luckily, were completed in a quicker time. I honestly don't know when I will resume full-time work on this model, but before I can do it, I would rather finish the Ragusian Carrack model. See you soon, Jack.Aubrey The third launch of Guadeloupe. . . there is still a lot to do. 01 IMG_20190517_114519.jpg 02 IMG_20190517_114525.jpg The other two boats are now finished, except for some small details (oars, etc.) to be nade later 03 IMG_20190517_114512.jpg 04 IMG_20190517_114504.jpg 05 IMG_20190517_114452.jpg Landrotten Highlander, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share #287 Posted September 11, 2022 Thursday, August 25th, 2022 During the month of May I moved to my new house on Como Lake and I was able to setup my shipmodeling workshop in a garage under the house, garage purchased specifically for this purpose. Once the setting up was completed, setup which was not a simple task given the quantity of material to be arranged, I resumed the modeling activities. First of all I dedicated all myself in completing the model of the Ragusian Carrack; see also my specific build log for this model on this forum. Now I have finally finished the Carrack (only the plexiglass cover is missing, a job that will however be carried out by a specialist craftsman) and, finally, I can resume this model that has stood still for several years, I think since 2017 or maybe earlier. At the moment the situation of this model is exemplified in the following two images: the hull is almost ready to be covered with cooper. I wrote "almost" because there are still several preliminary tasks to do; we'll see them later. Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100276_zpsg9mlx6or.jpg Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100270_zpsyq8orfvd.jpg Unfortunately, the two lifeboats that I built with some difficulties for the brick are disappeared, used to complete the Ragusian Carrack display stand (I explain the reasons on my post dated Saturday July 2nd, 2022 on the same thread above) and then I'll have to redo them. By lucky chance I found on the internet a kit to build a lifeboat that has exactly the same size as one of the two I have to redo. The kit is very simple: it reproduces all the pieces on plywood of adequate thickness and on thin pear tree boards; all are laser cut. This saves me a lot of work for cutting the pieces. Instead, the assembly seems to me more complex than the ones I had built, but it is certainly not an insurmountable problem. So one of the two boats will be built using this kit. For the second boat I decided to proceed by scanning the laser pre-cut tablets and using them to reproduce the project with AUTOCAD. Once I have the project on the PC, I resize everything for the second lifeboat, print, cut, assemble and so on. Maybe, just to avoid making the same of the other, I will modify some details . . . But let's get to the first one: as I said, the assembly presents simple steps but to be carried out precisely. To ensure a precise assembly of the ribs in this very first phase, I had to prepare a simple keel clamper and a tool to glue the ribs that guaranteed me perpendicularity and horizontality. You can see the keel clamper in the following image: a very simple plywood board and a couple of wood strips. 01 Brick de 24/25082022/IMG20220824182050_BURST000_COVER.jpg The sliding element for gluing the ribs is illustrated in the next two photos: with this tool their assembly has been resolved in a routinary and patience task, without unexpected problems. 02 Brick de 24/25082022/IMG20220824182227.jpg 03 Brick de 24/25082022/IMG20220824182252.jpg Once the frames were glued, I then proceeded to install the elements of the bottom. this task also "strengthened" the whole. 04 Brick de 24/25082022/IMG20220825102558.jpg see you soon, Jack Aubrey ccoyle, yvesvidal, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share #288 Posted September 11, 2022 Friday, August 26th, 2022 The fact I was successful to precisely glue the lifeboat frames, all of them well aligned and spaced apart, has enormously simplified the assembly of the next element that you can see in the two following images. The installation of this new element has also strengthened the overall skeleton of the lifeboat which, you have to believe me, is really a very delicate object to handle. 01 Brick de 24/26082022/IMG20220826185138.jpg 02 Brick de 24/26082022/IMG20220826185151.jpg See you soon, Jack Aubrey ccoyle, Paul Le Wol, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share #289 Posted September 12, 2022 Sunday, August 28th, 2022 One of the preliminary operations to apply copper to the hull of the brick is to build a tool to trace the waterline, tool I built today. It is a quite simple and handcrafted object but it has all the necessary customization possibilities. 01 Brick de 24/28082022/IMG20220828174152.jpg 02 Brick de 24/28082022/IMG20220828174159.jpg Finally, I applied new elements to the lifeboat: in particular, these are pear elements that embellish the seats for the crew as well as reinforce them further. 03 Brick de 24/28082022/IMG20220828174313.jpg See you on the next time; a cordial goodbye from Jack Aubrey mtaylor, yvesvidal, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share #290 Posted September 12, 2022 Monday, August 29th, 2022 Another element added to the lifeboat: these are two pearwood pieces that make up the gunwale. Its installation was not very easy but with a good amount of patience it succeeded very well. The boat structure should now be complete so that next step will be the installation of the planks. 01 Brick de 24/29082022/IMG20220829164723.jpg 02 Brick de 24/29082022/IMG20220829164755.jpg 03 Brick de 24/29082022/IMG20220829164806.jpg See you next time, Jack Aubrey GrandpaPhil, yvesvidal, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted September 12, 2022 Share #291 Posted September 12, 2022 Great work Jack, as always. Good to see you back. Yves mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share #292 Posted September 13, 2022 Friday, September 9th, 2022 I've been trying my hand with planking for a couple of days. The various courses of the planking are also laser pre-cut and therefore are quite precise in following the lines of the hull. However their installation is not a very simple task. First of all, it is necessary to hot-bend the strip in the bow area giving it the right curvature, then it is necessary to proceed very calmly and patiently so I am limited to installing a maximum of a couple of courses per session. However, until now, everything seems to be going well. There remains the concern for when I will have to install the last course: will it be accurate? will it be abundant? or will it leave an empty slot? We will see . . . 01 Brick de 24/09092022/IMG20220908184332.jpg 02 Brick de 24/09092022/IMG20220908184339.jpg 03 Brick de 24/09092022/IMG20220908184359.jpg See you next time, Jack Aubrey ccoyle, Paul Le Wol, Siggi52 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share #293 Posted September 23, 2022 Friday, September 22th, 2022 One more last effort . . . . 01 Brick de 24/22092022/IMG20220922092233.jpg 02 Brick de 24/22092022/IMG20220922092249.jpg 03 Brick de 24/22092022/IMG20220922092259.jpg See you next time, Jack Aubrey ccoyle, yvesvidal, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share #294 Posted October 1, 2022 Saturday, October 1st, 2022 A nice step forward . . . 01 Brick de 24/28092022/IMG20220928164312.jpg 02 Brick de 24/28092022/IMG20220928164356.jpg 03 Brick de 24/28092022/IMG20220928164402.jpg 04 Brick de 24/28092022/IMG20220928164420.jpg See you next time, Jack Aubrey Siggi52, GrandpaPhil, yvesvidal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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