Nenseth Posted September 25, 2014 #1 Posted September 25, 2014 This will be my first scratch build So after getting some books from ANCRE my choice fell on La Belle and the configuration it had under Cavellier de la Salle’s 1684 expedition. It is mentioned in Frölich's book as one of the easier ships for a beginner to scrach building. (We'll see about that...) Just order some pearwood from Arkowood, this will be the main building blocks for this model. I have some boxwood I'll use for carvings and decorations, later I'll order some ebony for wales, railings and blocks. In a couple of weeks (when my salary comes in) some Proxxon powertools are coming my way from germany. One of the big reasons for this picking this build is it's relativly nice size. Size of the model Length Width Height Hull 54 15 18 Model rigged 62 24 52 Links of interest: http://olivier.gatine.free.fr/modeles.html http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/ http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/30-monographie-de-la-belle-barque-1680.html NMBROOK, Elmer Cornish, Michel and 6 others 9 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
dvm27 Posted September 25, 2014 #2 Posted September 25, 2014 Good luck with this build Hans. You may wish to also check out the model build of Glen Greico, a Texas A&M University professional model builder. http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/belleinprogress.htm Nenseth, Jason and Jeronimo 3 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
Jason Posted September 25, 2014 #3 Posted September 25, 2014 I will be looking forward to your build, the ANCRE publications make great projects. I wish you good building! Nenseth 1 Quote -- Jason www.crowntimberyard.com Current Builds: US Brig Syren MS Imperial Russian Cruiser Varyag - Artwox Model Echo Cross Section: SMSNJ Group Build Completed Builds: 18th Century Longboat MS USS Olympia Encore Member: Nautical Research Guild (NRG)
Nenseth Posted September 30, 2014 Author #4 Posted September 30, 2014 Just got confirmation that my pearwood has been sent from Germany. Internatioal money transfers are so painfully sloooowww.... Next week I´ll be ordering my Proxxon DS 230/e Scroll Saw. So in two weeks time the first cuts will be made mtaylor 1 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted October 8, 2014 Author #5 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Got my proxxon scroll saw today It sure is smaller than i´d thought Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth WackoWolf, Wishmaster, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
tarbrush Posted October 10, 2014 #6 Posted October 10, 2014 La Belle is a lovely ship I hope to try building one day so I will be following your progress with great interest! Best of luck with your build. Nenseth 1 Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
Nenseth Posted October 10, 2014 Author #7 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Look what I got in the mail today Starting work on my keel and maybe the midship frame next week Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth Jason, tarbrush, Jeronimo and 6 others 9 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted October 13, 2014 Author #8 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Ready for my first cut. Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth alangr4, tarbrush, Jason and 4 others 7 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Mike Y Posted October 13, 2014 #9 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) That is a very fine wood you have there! Trying to find pear on Arkowood website, but can't seem to find it.. Or it is not on a website? Edited October 13, 2014 by Mike Y Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Nenseth Posted October 13, 2014 Author #10 Posted October 13, 2014 Mike, thanks for the comment. It´s called birnbaum in german, and I love the texture and look of it Mike Y 1 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
druxey Posted October 13, 2014 #11 Posted October 13, 2014 'Birnbaum' is literally 'pear tree', i.e. pear wood. Nenseth 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Nenseth Posted October 16, 2014 Author #12 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Everything ready Keel, stem and stern (in the ruff) Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth WackoWolf, Mike Y, druxey and 7 others 10 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Mike Y Posted October 16, 2014 #13 Posted October 16, 2014 Now good luck with fitting it all together! That is tricky Nenseth 1 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Nenseth Posted October 21, 2014 Author #14 Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Getting the midship frame right is taking some time, but its fun work Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth alangr4, Mike Y, ChrisLBren and 4 others 7 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted October 23, 2014 Author #15 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Midship frame under way. Time to find a way to sand everything down to the right size, got a dremel but not sure it´ll get everything nice and even Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth WackoWolf, Jeronimo, alangr4 and 4 others 7 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted October 28, 2014 Author #16 Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Wish I had more time to work on my ship... Still needing more fine tuning Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth archjofo, WackoWolf, alangr4 and 5 others 8 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted October 29, 2014 Author #17 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) When you first start it´s hard to stop Edited November 3, 2014 by Nenseth alangr4, WBlakeny, Mike Y and 6 others 9 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
WBlakeny Posted October 30, 2014 #18 Posted October 30, 2014 Nice work! I'll be following. La Belle is also on my wish list. Nenseth 1 Quote Chris Current builds : On hold : IJN Yamato by DeAgostini - 1/250 Completed builds : Bermuda boat Corsair (scratch) President by Sergal - 1/60
Mike Y Posted October 30, 2014 #19 Posted October 30, 2014 That's a lot of fairing and sanding! Good start! Nenseth 1 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Jeronimo Posted October 30, 2014 #20 Posted October 30, 2014 Hello Hans Christian, much succes and fun at work. Karl Nenseth 1 Quote
Redbeard Posted October 30, 2014 #21 Posted October 30, 2014 Looks like she's gonna be a beauty! Good luck with your build Hans. John Nenseth 1 Quote John Current Build: MSW 18 Century Longboat 1:48 Next Build: MSW Bluenose 1:64
Nenseth Posted November 3, 2014 Author #22 Posted November 3, 2014 Working my way forward. These are the midship frame and 1F, 2F forward frames cut out A glue realated question... Any sugestions how to remove the glue stains? mtaylor, Mike Y, archjofo and 3 others 6 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Mike Y Posted November 3, 2014 #23 Posted November 3, 2014 You will sand it anyway, which will also remove the glue stains. Also, try applyin less glue, and remove excess with some stick as fast as possible. What glue are you using? Realy recommend to try an orange Cascol for indoor use, it should be available in all Nordics. Bonds pretty fast, very strong. Do not leave colored stains, could be easily dissolved with water if needed. It is just perfect Nenseth, mtaylor and druxey 3 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Nenseth Posted November 4, 2014 Author #24 Posted November 4, 2014 The glue I´m using is Titebond III It´s realy good, but as you say Mike, I should use less of it... I´ll try some light sanding and see if that helps with the stains Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Nenseth Posted November 10, 2014 Author #25 Posted November 10, 2014 Progress Mike Y, mtaylor, tadheus and 7 others 10 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
ATXinventor Posted February 21, 2015 #26 Posted February 21, 2015 Hi Nenseth! Good choice for the scale! I applaud that because it's the same scale that I have chosen :-) So far I've been doing research. Tonight I will be laser cutting the keel parts, to 1:36, according to the actual archeological remains, which are different from Boudriot's BTW, I"m curious, why 1:36? Boudriot offers 1:24 and 1:48, I guess you made your own conversion. you might find this useful https://plus.google.com/photos/107485130181739375537 over 300 pictures of the real thing. some forums do not permit posting links to other forums, just in case, simply search for La Belle 1684 ATXinventor for more Quote
Nenseth Posted February 21, 2015 Author #27 Posted February 21, 2015 My monograph is at 1:36, I think an older version was at a different scale. You should start a build log so we can get some inspiration of each other Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
Mike Y Posted July 12, 2015 #28 Posted July 12, 2015 Hej Hans, How is your build going? Any new photos to share? Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Nenseth Posted August 7, 2015 Author #29 Posted August 7, 2015 Sometimes life gets in the way of the fun stuff... But summer is soon over and the nights are getting longer. ioannis, GuntherMT, tadheus and 3 others 6 Quote -Hans Christian Current build -La Belle 1684 (Scracth build) -Oseberg (Billing Boats) (On hold) -Falmouth (Euromodel) (On hold)
ioannis Posted August 9, 2015 #30 Posted August 9, 2015 Hi Nenseth.I like your building style.well done looking forward your next update Quote
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