ortho85 Posted January 1, 2015 Share #1 Posted January 1, 2015 I'm nearing the end of my second model (Armed Virginia Sloop), so it's time to look for the next project. I have received instructions from The Boss that she needs a model to display - my first 2 models are for me to see, only! So, any advice to fit the following criteria: Large-ish. I'm thinking above 36"/90cm. Interesting to build, but not too complicated. I need to finish it this year! Either one covered by Bob Hunt's Practicums, or with extremely good instructions available. Preferably easy to get in Australia. Good Forum support. Not much to ask? Cheers, and Happy New Year, Brett Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieZardoz Posted January 1, 2015 Share #2 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Maybe a brig/sloop like MS's Niagara, Syren or Jotika's HMS Cruiser/Snake? Don't have to worry about any complicated stern stuff Edited January 2, 2015 by CharlieZardoz Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted January 1, 2015 Share #3 Posted January 1, 2015 Hi Brett I like a lot of others are building the Niagara from Model Expo Whatever you decide you will need to order from the US or UK which works when you pay by credit card The Niagara requires more carpentry than some Here is some strip wood go build it !! Also the plans are in imperial measurements I tend to use a scale rule and measure off the plan The Caldercraft Endeavour is another good choice I don't think you need to buy practicums The 2 models I mentioned come with good instructions. But your best option is to start a build log and tap into the experience and skills here Good luck with it Regards Ken mtaylor 1 Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortho85 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted January 1, 2015 Thanks CharlieZardoz and Ken. My current build is M/S, and I'm unimpressed by the quality of the plans/instructions. I have already bought the Practicums, so I'm hoping to use them again, sometime. Any comments on the Jotika plans/instructions? Cheers, Brett Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted January 1, 2015 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2015 Brett Jotika/Caldercraft plans/instructions are probably as good as you can get For one thing they are originally written in English, not translated Ken ortho85 1 Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted January 1, 2015 Share #6 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Ahoy Brett I would suggest you first find out what the Admiral wants if this will be "hers" to see. As for the practicums there are plenty of logs here that offer more help then you you could ever hope for. Why not sit down with the Admiral and show her some pictures of finished kits; ask her what she would like and build whatever she wants. You never know: The Connie might look good with pink gunwales and lavender trim. Edited January 1, 2015 by JPett mtaylor and CaptainSteve 2 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieZardoz Posted January 1, 2015 Share #7 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Chuck's practicum for Syren is top notch, you also have excellent builders on this site like Dubz and Thomas Gahm among others who post a lot of pics in their Syren build logs that you can use for how-to assistance. Edited January 1, 2015 by CharlieZardoz Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortho85 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted January 2, 2015 I think the Syren may be a little too small for the space SWMBO has in mind. I fear the same may be true of Snake and Cruiser. However, I am currently assembling some photos for a line-up! Based purely on size, I'm wondering about Bounty, Vanguard, Constitution, or Confederacy? I know size isn't everything, but try telling my wife that! Cheers, Brett CharlieZardoz, druxey and geoff 3 Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 2, 2015 Share #9 Posted January 2, 2015 Any of those ships you list is going to be a challenge to finish within a year. As for Caldercraft instructions, the comment about "as good as you can get" certainly does not apply to their early kit offerings. They only started producing detailed instructions on later kits, and the only large model from that period is HMS Victory; even with that one I'm not sure about the instructions. Hope you find what you're looking for! ortho85 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieZardoz Posted January 2, 2015 Share #10 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) The larger Bounty kit's I believe are from Artesania Latina and Constructo though I wouldn't recommend those companies if you want "clear" instructions. Constitution would be the simpliest of the kits you mentioned since both Confederacy and Vanguard will have lots of carving/detailing type work(some photo etched). There is the clipper Jefferson Davis by Blue Jacket at 35.5" clipper Harvey (again by Artesania Latina but simple in comparison) at 36" or a bigger kit would be the HMS Warrior by Billing Boats that's 57.5" also you have non-warships like Flying Fish 36" or Cuttysark by either sergal or mantura at 45" which might also fit the under one year time frame you are looking for. Keep to kits with one or two decks tops and marginal stern detailing in my humble opinion. Edited January 2, 2015 by CharlieZardoz Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortho85 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Thanks, CharlieSandoz! I have just run my own suggestions up the flagpole, and got told I'm wrong (again!). However, your non-warship ideas sound like what she is after, so I'll check those out. Apparently a more modern sailing ship/boat would be ideal. Cheers, Brett Edited January 2, 2015 by ortho85 CharlieZardoz 1 Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted January 2, 2015 Share #12 Posted January 2, 2015 How about AL's HMS Surprise? It's a big model in 1/48 scale, with a lot of interesting features. Dave Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortho85 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) So, the latest is to look for something in the modern yacht style, around 800mm long. The Amati Endeavour (1934 America's Cup yacht) looked possible, but that is said to be 1150mm long - a bit big! Although it's a resin hull, the only vaguely interesting looking model I have found is the Amati Dorade Racing Yacht. As seen here - http://www.historicships.com/TALLSHIPS/Amati/Dorade%20AM1605/Dorade%20am1605.htm Any comments on this, or Amati, or any other suggestions? Please! Edited January 2, 2015 by ortho85 Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieZardoz Posted January 2, 2015 Share #14 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Model Shipways has the Bluenose, Mantua has the Britannia Royal yacht, Amati has Endeavor, Corel has the Corsaro 2 all at around 32" Your best bet is to go on www.agesofsail.com type in yacht and show the misses the list as that is pretty much the options for yachts as far as I know of. Also there are Bark's like Gorch Fock and Eagle out there which are kinda modernish? Edited January 2, 2015 by CharlieZardoz ortho85 1 Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 2, 2015 Share #15 Posted January 2, 2015 Also have a look at Bluejacket for more merchant/historic sailing vessels. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueJacket Posted January 2, 2015 Share #16 Posted January 2, 2015 Not to toot my corporate horn, but our kit of the Charles P. Notman is 41 inches long, has excellent instructions, and a lot of laser-cut parts. link here: http://www.bluejacketinc.com/kits/notman.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortho85 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #17 Posted January 2, 2015 Thanks, Charlie, Chris and MrBlueJacket. The historical ones are out of contention for this project. My orders are to find a modern yacht, like this design: That's the Amati Columbia - not what I want to build next, but hey after 41 years of married bliss I ain't gunna break from tradition now! Cheers, Brett mtaylor and CharlieZardoz 2 Quote Abandoned current build - Model Shipways Bluenose - absolute garbage! Last build - A-L San Francisco II Third build - Amati Dorade Fastnet Yacht (1931) Second build - Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop First build - Artesania Latina Swift 1805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieZardoz Posted January 2, 2015 Share #18 Posted January 2, 2015 Hull is pre-formed so should be simple enough, could get it done for valentines ortho85 and mtaylor 2 Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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