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Currently doing the rat lines on my Fair American, and was wondering what type of knots some of you do.

 

I am using a clove hitch to tie my rat lines to the shrouds. Do any of you use another kind of knot to tie your rat lines?

 

The rat lines are the most time consuming and monotonous type of rigging I think.... Be glad when this is done.

 

Thanks

Danny

Posted (edited)

I will start tying ratlines in my Vasa pretty soon. I'm starting a mental preparation to get ready for hours upon hours of clove hitch knots tying. (Yes, this is the right knot to use here)

 

Patience, my friend.

Edited by Ulises Victoria

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Posted

Depending on the scale a clove hitch is the only way to go.  At smaller scales a simple overhand knot will suffice.

David B

Posted

Yup, as David and Ulises commented, clove hitches are the knots to use.  BUT, if your scale is small, then you could simply push a needle thru the shrouds, and just use an overhand knot on the outside shrouds.  Apply a drop of diluted white glue; do not use CA.  By small, I mean the ratlines look good with the needle method.

 

If it gets too boring, work on the yards, or the anchors, or the launch, then come back another day.

 

Duffer

Posted

Had to look up what a cow hitch knot was, and you are absolutely right! :)

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

Posted

I know most MSW members say no CA on rigging, but at the end of the video he says when he is finished he will go back and put CA on each knot.  Why not CA on rigging?

 

Bob

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Posted

Bob:

CA may be an option, but I prefer diluted white glue or flat clear lacquer because these have enough strength to do the job and will not leave a shiny spot or a white residue, nor run through my lines making them stiff, brittle and prone to break.

 

Just my personal preference. 

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

Posted (edited)

Good video. To keep the spacing consistent I read that cutting a piece of card to the required spacing helps. It certainly helped me! Now to look up a cow hitch! ;)

 

Found it - good old Wikipedia

Edited by Craigie65

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Posted

One of the main reasons for not using CA on riiging knots is after awhile the knot will become britle and might break.

David B

Posted

Actually, the CORRECT way to tie a Ratline is to EYE SPLICE the two outer ones, and use Clove Hitches for the inner shrouds. The pics below show how I did them on my Norfolk Sloop :

 

Ratline Tying 001.jpg

 

Ratline Tying 002.jpg

 

Ratline Tying 004.jpg

 

Ratline Tying 005.jpg

 

Ratline Tying 006.jpg

 

The "Cow Hitch" (I can't remember if that's the correct name for this knot) is an alternative that looks much neater than a Clove Hitch for the two outer ones, as Janos mentioned. Here's how to tie them :

 

Ratline Tutorial 002.jpg

 

Ratline Tutorial 003.jpg

 

Ratline Tutorial 007.jpg

 

Note the tails of the Cow Hitches are both on the lower part of each knot, meaning that the two knots are mirrors of each other.

 

:cheers:  Danny

Cheers, Danny

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