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Blue Ensign

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  1. What an amazing insight you must have to presume  knowledge of what we "OTHERS" have regarding understanding or otherwise the differences between 18th century shipbuilding practice and the offerings provided by kit manufacturers.

     

    I think you will find that many of us fully appreciate the shortcomings in kit design, and not just relating to Victory.

     

    B.E.

  2. Hi JP as a bit of inspiration, here's a couple of examples of Victory models depicting her in pre great repair days.

     

    Firstly the stern of Victory in a model  by Wyllie in the Portsmouth Naval Museum.

     

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     Secondly, detail from a conversion of the Heller Victory by an excellent modeller, Michael D whose log is on my home forum.

     

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    But remember it's not just the stern gallery that differed on the pre 1803 Victory, the Figurehead was also significantly more ornate.

     

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    Michael modelled the Figure detail in Fimo from the details of the model figurehead also in the Naval Museum Portsmouth.

     

    Food for thought eh?

     

    Cheers,

     

    B.E.

     

     

     

  3. Hi JP The stern of Victory was enclosed in the great refit of 1803, and she looked at Trafalgar much as she looks today, with the exception of the absence of the Prince of Wales feathers. This  is confirmed by the drawing made by Livesay  on her return after Trafalgar in 1806.

     

     

     

     

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    The Pocock painting (your bottom right)  an extract from Nelsons Ships has a fair amount of artistic licence, but the earlier  painting by Swaine in 1793 shows her with the open galleries.

     

    If you intend to model her as at Trafalgar then if your kit follows her current stern you will not be too far out.

     

    B.E.

  4. Adeline, it's never too late ;)

     

    I know that may sound a little self serving, but as I said before, I am very flattered, and I hardly feel like I deserve such praise.

     

    Thank you all so very much.

     

    Andy

     

    "a little self serving" Andy, isn't that what you've been all about of late, ;)  and pretty damn good at it as well. I shall be looking to you for tips when I start in earnest. :)

     

    Cheers,

     

     

    B.E.

  5. It must be very frustrating not to be getting the satisfaction from a build time after time, also for those who get interested in following a build only to find it abruptly ends.

     

    This one did look interesting and you look to produce a very nice finish to your work Arjan, I do hope you find a project that sustains your interest thro' to completion.

     

    B.E.

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