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Dear Tomasz, Great part of my knowledge ,if not all, I took from R.C.Anderson book about 17 century rigging... wnen I rigging my model,it was very easy and interesting He gave information in logical order same as sailing ship model need to be rigged... I just read a few pages,lets say about main stay or main lifts for example and tnan just made a few ropes on my model as it was described/ guided in his book - rope by rope - page by page...:) later on I found more resourses with relevant information, but in common them all just confirm what Anderson said already in his book many years ago :))) good source of informatiin about 16-17 century rigging it is museum , art works of famous Dutch artists of that period - there is the link in my signature to their work...some of the paints like fotograph,such detailed!!!
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Visualy they Look very good ! Maybe everything good with ratlines thickness as well...at least on this foto ratlines look not far from proper size? Alarm! - I saw on the picture some of the ratlines end knots look like are going to be undone/unseizing by itself...
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Good day Tomasz, foot ropes -Why did You make them / is it in the kit's manual? Actually ,during galleon era and well till the end of the 17th centure foot ropes were not known ...and not used... as example ,one of the Willem van de Velde drawing - no foot ropes... but this is already mid of the 17th century...
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I know Mayflower II replica had steering gear wheel which was arranged in purpose for transatlantic voyage , they also arranged foot ropes for convinience working with sails, but it was artifucial additions which couldn't be seen on the vessel in 16-17 centures
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Those type of kevel which Anderson refers as english type, we could see on the contemporary english models 17- 18 cenrures
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But one moment , There is another buitiful reconstruction of elizabethian galleon by Peter Kirsch, and He used the same type of kevel as You did... so probably You did acceptable choise !:)))
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Good day, Tomasz, Steering wheel!!!???😁 on 16 th centure galleon ??? looks very strange... I think may be better discard this replica details as quidance and better follow information from Anderson book? I know there are two GH replicas exist ... one is just tourist atraction and another one much more hystoric accurste... posted foto of which one ? Is this foto of this replica? If Yes , I don't know why they choose this type of kevels
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Good day, Your kevels Looks nice , much better than original ! however acording to R.C.Anderson this is Dutch type of kevel, english type should be more "round" shape such as shape of the kit's kevels...
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treads sizes could be find in Anderson book as well, if You need digital copy of this book for private use let me know by email there are some examples of rigging done by RC Anderson for famous private collection
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seems You need to find or make your self thinner trad for ratlines as You use now... on the foto it looks too thick in diameter compare to deadeyes lanyards and shrouds
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Good day, Dear Jonathan I used CA gel ... applied toch drop by tooth pick ,just to fix knot but need to be applied in such way that it doesn't cover hitch appears/configure itself... strange, should 't be shine here,why..?. but if it happened it could be recovered by paint affected area and applied matt varnish if shining after CA occured... Just Private opinion- if You will stain ratlines more intensive , almost same color as shrouds it would look much,much better!!! by the way, deadeyes lanyards need to be "tared" color as well :))) all, ratlines,shrouds and deadeyes lanyards need to be more or less same dark color... *too bright colors could destroy in some grade visual model appearance *as I know, this parts of the riggind used to be tared in reality,so couldn't be too bright color as some of the modern ship models demonstrate
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Good Day Marc!:) Oh! Thank You very much for detailed answer! Now I fully understood You choice and it seems to me You ' ve made very stable and solid foundation for such color scheme !!!:) As seems to me , no seems, I belive I will follow Your choice and findings in this area when I will reach my SR kit somewhere in the future. I like very much how it looks like in this color and consider it doesn't contrudict barocco style of that period!... Agree with opinion to be "bored" with seeing the same only blue-gold paint job over and over... :)))!!!
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Good day Marc, Your job Looks very impressive!!! And in some aspects is unusual for me, I meant this colors combination and in my imagination it should be more suitable for...vessel of Vasa period for example... Before I thought for SR period was used less palitra? Lets say blue and " gold" or red and "gold"... Marc , please remind me where / when in your build You mentioned or start discussed the reasons for choosing such painting scheme but not plain two colors ? Sorry ,it looks like I missed this moment
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Mark, this button could try ... sait need to be in PC mode not Mobile mode to see this button
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Good day Mark, as I understood he used some kind of ?silk ? name PONGE 5 https://www.silkcraft.co.uk/ponge-5-white-silk-90cm-wide and special thermoactivating japanise paper which used for restorations purposes https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00LM7H9WC/?tag=phpprogramme this silk layer placed between termoplast R layers - in this case we have still very very thin material (like paper) which combines advantagies of modelspan tissue paper and fabrick material... as I understood from Blue Ensign article about ModelSpan tissue, it is very fragile material and easily could be damaged by accident during assembling ... Did You try site's "built in " option for automatic translation from German to English ? this special button for choosing language is in the extreme left lower corner of the main site screen... this option available in PC mode
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Dear Bill, I'm sorry for my English again ... Have some suggestions ... We could try to look at this forum from different point of vew , make it more interesting !:))) one of it - try to find it as a great sources of informations right here .. and there is exists realy Great Man and Great Expert in 17 th centure ships rigging - it is Mr. Ab Hoving !!! And this resource give us great opportunities to talk to this Man strait/directly!! Just strait - You could ask him whatever You 'd like to know about 16-17th rigging and You will have very interesting and full answers in return! At least ,it will 100% cover of Dutch 17 th rigging details !!! :))) But, And, consider that in this period Dutch rules over the shipbuildings World ...it will be quite intersting even we would like to talk about English 17th galleon rigging :))) A few years ago I even couldn/t imagine that such things could be posiible , but now they are!!!.. just look at his works of various models and ask him directly if You have questions !!! :))) everything You would like to know about 17th rigging !!! Oh my god!!! :))) We already missed to do same to ask /or talk to Mr. Anderson (sure 100%)amd Markquart as well ... :((( but Ab , Ab Hoving, He is still with us and active and modelling buildings and He si ready to talk to us ! Try! :)))
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Franckly speaking it is a little bit enigma for me > why we first don't need to read the solid source , as R.C.Anderson book and than start making discussion/// but instead of need first to start discussions and trhan found that easiest way to find unswers will be spent same time spent for discussions to read proper books??
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look at this..than read Anderson book ... and You will see and understood how das it work ... this case , mizzen tie halliyard knight\ Duyfken replica
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I said that because I've the same problem in the beginiing of my galleon build and rigging...but later on when I found this book ,almoust 90 % of my questions were settled and explained ...and answers were given by professional but not amateures like me and you
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Bill, Good day, Unfortunatelly English is not my native language... that why I always reccomend to read first R.C.Anderson book and after that, when You read and understood did You read ,start making any kind of rigging... If You really interestng in 17 century rigging , this book will be ultimate guide how to make rigging...I mean each time I will be need to try to say in worst and simplified what Mr. Anderson already said and explained carefully. Otherwise it could happend that just low level repeating information given by Anderson again abd again... please find a time ,a few hrs, and read this book ... You will be amaising how it is simple,logical and interesting !
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Mark, Did You see that? I thought I saw You somewhere talking about sails?😄but now can't find where I saw it I used to thiniest percal for making my galleons sails ... but what Dafi found and developed is amaising!!! , it is much, much great suitable for scale sails!! Will be Great and interesting if Your Tell us what is Your r opinion? ^)))https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t7592f815-Laminatsegel-fuer-Modelle-im-kleinen-Massstab.html https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t125f165-to-Victory-and-beyond-130.html#msg115827
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Yes, there is a plan to do this with bonaventure ... and I want try to change scale from 72 to 100, than model will represent a bigger ship than GHind and to rearrange location and to add some guns ports...
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