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Good day Michael, Looks nice! Are You planning to show fish davit from sbs prepaired for anchor fishing? I saw that You shown anchor from this side is in ready position for fishing but fish davit still secured on deck/ not rolled out ? It could be interesting... I think author of S. A. model shown ps anchor catting process in progress and not yet completed... which is always interesting to see such details on the model..it initiates mind thinking process ...whats going on here ?!:))) SOTS 1637 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/za1C/j55UJkF7K
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Good day Michael, *Coming back to anchors securing methods, I saw / found that variant which You demonstrated on your model in one of the last version. I think it could be realized as well, why not?... as You shown, catblock is not removed but just moved aside and fastened to the railings ... for me personal, when I was busy with my model anchors gear, I prefer to follow strictly John Harlands book,regarding using ring stopper rope in its " spanish "as he said, variant of second catting stage, I shown this arrangements of anhcor stowing on one side( cat block removed) and anchor's heaving up action on another side where fish davit could be seen angaged as well. I don't believe that option ( Vasa 1:10) to bring it ( anchor)inboard of the beakhead is good idea... a few times moving anchor in and out of beakhead we finaly just destroy it heavily... I think that why on old pictures this way of anchor stowing was never shown. *pozition of leading block of spritsail pendant...I noted that on the 1:10 model shown variant when this bulleye fastened not to the one of fore shroud as used to be, but straight to the fore channels, pendant passes trough ring bolt on the channel... this arrangements I never saw on the old dutch drawings , but I saw it in the Mondfeld book about Vasa.- he shown two possible positions of blind sheet pendant lead block.. I would prefer to use traditional way and to secure this spritsail lead pendant block on the fore shrouds above upper deadeye...
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Good day Michael, As I understood from John Harlands book, and what exactly we could see on the contemporary dutch pictures - in stowed position, cat- block in this case - removed, and ring stopper rope used instead of it. During stowing process , cat- block hooked to the strope on the shank, and used for heaving up anchor more up than it could be done in regular way, when catblock hooked to the anchor ring... but this process described in details in that highlighted section...as soon as anchor is in desired position, than ring-stopper rope used ... that what we clearly could see on the Velde's drawings posted above... " spanish" method , as I could understood from the book - it is one more option to secure anchor in stowed position, there is again cat block removed, ring stopper rope used again passes trought sheaves in cathead but anchor ring used as set of lower sheaves... this method didn't show on the Velde's drawings... Spritsail sheet bulleye looks like need to be in position above upper deadeye of the first fore shroud, not lower as You shown presently - means sprit sail pendant need to be positioned clear of anchor gear...outside and above of anchor and its gear...that what we could see on the Velde's drawings and other artists of this time as well .... There is a third variant, I saw it on Sophia Amalia model... I don't know is it correct or not , but it looks quite logical...there is cat block is not dismantled but just disangaged from the anchor ring, and ring stopper rope used in the same time...
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Looking at the pictures we could noted ,when anchor secured in stowed position, than anckor tackle should be disangaged and single thick rope arranged instead of.
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Some thoughts ... as I understoo with this hanging bulleye (fixed above fm upper deadeye) spritsail pendant passes clear/and above of anchor gear, but not below as You arranged presently... ?
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Good day, All looks good, however have question ,how did You rig spripsail sheet ...it is not clear from the pictures... as I understood...at least looking at old dutch pictures...there should be long pendant which passes throug hanging bulleye attached to the first shroud area, than this pendant ended with single sheeve block, and than there should be simple whip tackle with this block started and ended somewhere in the waist...?
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Good day Michael, Anchor assembly looks very good! All the best!
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Good day Bruma, Your job just brilliant! I follow your building reports with great pleasure! Wish You all the best!
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Good day, I would like to add, how" right "/correct coiled ropes were made! Great job!
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Perfect!!!:)))
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Soleil Royal by yancovitch
kirill4 replied to yancovitch's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1501 - 1750
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Michael, I dare say, you are the first person in my memory who tried, and by the way, very successfully and very authentic for the 17th century, depicted retracted topsails !!! My respect and respect! Great job!!!
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On the pictures, looks like clews rising up from the mast top platform to the lead blocks on the yard?
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Michael, You just read my mind! :)))- fake furled vertical section! I think it will work as need!:) All The Best!!! Kirill
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Michael, Why didn't You make topsail furling like this? It looks like ,not the first time( not the first Vasa ,not first galleons), people try to avoid any possible ways making this pure style of 16-early 17th topsails furling ... which makes me crying every time... again not! :((( :)))... don't understand why?... it is so specific thing in topsails furling for this time...details You could read in Harland book "Seamanship in the age of sail",
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Good day Michael! Looks Fantastic! Great! All the best! Kirill
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Good day, Thank You very much for your attention and kind comments!:) I m glad You like my little galleon experiment .
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They say cold, snowing...and "0" modeling...:))) I'm not at home till May. We are working between Cuba and New Orlean...
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Good day, My congratulations - good model You made ! All the best!
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Good day! Well Can Imagine how difficult what You are doing now! However it looks Great ! With single lead blocks for main and main top gallant stay on the fore mast - it sounds good and quite acceptable solution!!! wasa_31.tif wasa_31.tif
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