Dimitris71

Hey thanks Augie..... just the jib sails left to do....... hope they turn out !!

Love those furled sails, Frank!

Hey Scoot,  nice hearing from you...... are you back to your shipyard?????....... Miss seeing you here...hurry back!!
 
Frank

Looks like organized chaos Frank.  Looking good.
Furled sails look fantastic. 
 
Scoot

Thanks Lawerence...David B....Denis(Popeye).... Tony...Dimitris and Don for your comments, always appreciated....  just a little update as to the rigging. A lot of ropes are starting to accumulate      and I'm still a little confused    as to where they're going to tye off at.........I think I'll just let them fall, and where ever they land is where their home will be ....... just kidding. ..... I'll try to get some sembelence of order so it looks like I know what I'm doing Here's a couple pictures  showing the start of CONFUSION!!!
 
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
As always ...Thanks for look'n in....
 
Frank
 
 

 
 

 
 

Hello to all, Simon welcome aboard. David-Mike-Slog-Patrick-Don-Brian-Nigel (UpstateNY)-Jeff-Nigel (NMBROOK)-Bob, I do thank you for all the likes and for your visits to my build log.
 
So...work on the shipyard continues..The lamp with the magniffying lens above my head explode...And the first thing I thought,  after the proper language.. Oh darn !!! the ship...  I check the construction and everything it's ok!!
Here are some pictures with the progress of Amerigo... The instructions shows how to make these lines with a pencil..I did not like it  ..so i made this.. Then glue the furnitures on the stern deck, then the radar and then I start to place the stanchions and handrails to the stern's cap rail (i hope that this is a term). Sorry about the quality of photos but as i said above the lamp is out..
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

Hello to all, Simon welcome aboard. David-Mike-Slog-Patrick-Don-Brian-Nigel (UpstateNY)-Jeff-Nigel (NMBROOK)-Bob, I do thank you for all the likes and for your visits to my build log.
 
So...work on the shipyard continues..The lamp with the magniffying lens above my head explode...And the first thing I thought,  after the proper language.. Oh darn !!! the ship...  I check the construction and everything it's ok!!
Here are some pictures with the progress of Amerigo... The instructions shows how to make these lines with a pencil..I did not like it  ..so i made this.. Then glue the furnitures on the stern deck, then the radar and then I start to place the stanchions and handrails to the stern's cap rail (i hope that this is a term). Sorry about the quality of photos but as i said above the lamp is out..
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

Hello to all, Simon welcome aboard. David-Mike-Slog-Patrick-Don-Brian-Nigel (UpstateNY)-Jeff-Nigel (NMBROOK)-Bob, I do thank you for all the likes and for your visits to my build log.
 
So...work on the shipyard continues..The lamp with the magniffying lens above my head explode...And the first thing I thought,  after the proper language.. Oh darn !!! the ship...  I check the construction and everything it's ok!!
Here are some pictures with the progress of Amerigo... The instructions shows how to make these lines with a pencil..I did not like it  ..so i made this.. Then glue the furnitures on the stern deck, then the radar and then I start to place the stanchions and handrails to the stern's cap rail (i hope that this is a term). Sorry about the quality of photos but as i said above the lamp is out..
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris

Hello to all, Simon welcome aboard. David-Mike-Slog-Patrick-Don-Brian-Nigel (UpstateNY)-Jeff-Nigel (NMBROOK)-Bob, I do thank you for all the likes and for your visits to my build log.
 
So...work on the shipyard continues..The lamp with the magniffying lens above my head explode...And the first thing I thought,  after the proper language.. Oh darn !!! the ship...  I check the construction and everything it's ok!!
Here are some pictures with the progress of Amerigo... The instructions shows how to make these lines with a pencil..I did not like it  ..so i made this.. Then glue the furnitures on the stern deck, then the radar and then I start to place the stanchions and handrails to the stern's cap rail (i hope that this is a term). Sorry about the quality of photos but as i said above the lamp is out..
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

Thank you very much mate!!! Really really appreciate it!!
 
Cheers
Dimitris

Hello shipmates, the work on the shipyard continues....I do thank you all for your likes and comments..Really appreciate it!!!
Here are some photos...
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris

Thanks Ken and Brian...I'll take a look thanks for the links...Joshua let me know when you start that Jersey build I want a from row seat for that one...Hey Pop, welcome, glad to have you on board...the kit parts are laser etched but I did have to score them because of all the paint build up

I am a user of acrylics for the same reason but the sources for decent paint are hard to get.  Poly S was good before they were bought out and I like Modelflex by Badger but they have to be shipped.  The Hobby Lobby in Waterloo has Vallejo and I think I will go that route once I get to painting again easier clean up no bad smells.  Thanks for the info.
David B

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

TERROR MODIFIED: THE HISTORIC PLANS (Part 3)
 
1845 Sheets
The ships were again extensively refitted in 1845 to convert them to auxiliary steam propulsion, a modification deemed necessary to save precious time during the ice-free season “providing the wind should prove contrary or a dead calm”.  An excellent plan of the stern modifications exists (from which the preceding quote was drawn), which displays the complete redesign of the Terror’s stern. These exact plans are reproduced in green ink on the 1836 plans of HMS Terror, indicating that the ship was shortened at the position of the lower and upper decks, but the sternpost was moved aft to provide room from the new screw propeller. Above the screw propeller a massive well was constructed through which it could be easily shipped and unshipped. When the screw was not in use, the well was filled with a series of solid wood and metal chocks to add strength to the vessel’s stern.
 
The 1836 inboard profile of the Terror depicts that partitions on the orlop deck and in the hold were modified to accommodate the new propulsion system, which was an unmodified steam locomotive engine, anchored just aft of the mainmast. Much speculation has occurred about the type of engines utilized, but recent research by Peter Carney (see Battersby and Carney 2011:203) argues that the locomotive was the Croydon/Archimedes type, for which partial plans exist (Brees 1840). If these were the engines installed in the Terror and Erebus, they were an excellent choice, as they were known to be exceptionally reliable (Brees 1859:90):
 

 
Green-ink modifications to the 1836 inboard profile also display that the extensive copper plating was removed in favor of thicker iron plating which covered the entire bow and extended ca.  15 feet aft. The plans also indicate that the Terror’s bowsprit was raised by approximately 4.5 feet; the reason for this is unclear, but the Terror had a much shallower draught than the Erebus and given her sailing qualities, this modification was likely necessary. Further alternations to the partitions of the decks are depicted (in green ink) in both the 1836 and 1839 plans, the most significant of which appears to be the extension of the watertight bulkhead system forward, which must have resulted in a significant reduction in hold capacity.
 

 

OwenStanley, 1845, " Departure of H.M.S. Erebus and Terror for the North Pole,1845", courtesy National Library of Australia.
 
 
References:
 
Battersby, William, and Carney, Peter
2011    Equipping HM Ships Erebus and Terror, 1845. International Journal for the History of Engineering & Technology 81(2):192-211.
 
Brees, S.C.
1840    Second Series of Railway Practice: A Collection of Working Plans and Practical Details of Construction in the Public Works of the Most Celebrated Engineers. John Williams, London. 
 
1859     Railway Practice: A Collection of Working Plans and Practical Details of Construction in the Public Works of the Most Celebrated Engineers. R. Griffin and Co., London.
 
 
As always, for better images please see my blog!

my.......what a cool looking boat your building!  catching up on the logs I view.........I hardly get to meander anymore {I have so many that I look at}.   the veneer and the gray is a nice combo.......did you score all of the bunker doors {like the idea of the coal}     very nice progress J..........so glad to have you on my watch list again! 

Hi Everybody:
A lot has transpired since my last post.  What I really should say is that a lot of time has transpired since my last post because there have been many days that I could not even think about building my Bounty.  I still love the idea of working on this model but unfortunately my job (I am an 8th grade history teacher) has taken up more time that I would like.  The beginning of every school year is always very difficult as the administration continuously makes changes to which we have to adapt; this takes a good deal of time.  It has never been easy but for some reason this year seems tougher than most.  I can find very little time to spend on Bounty and that is a shame as my ambition is still great.  
 
Jerry has been very patient with me (I guess he still loves me) but I could see that he has seemed bored many days as he gives me instructions as to what to do and very little has been achieved. We both sat down and discussed the situation and decided to take a new track.  Bounty will no longer be my build exclusively but will become a family project with instructions still to come from Jerry but he will also partially work on the project.  Up until now he has been reluctant to do much as this was to be MY build.  I know by asking Jerry to do some of the work the boredom will disappear.
 
I have learned how to do some planking and how to apply the copper plates.  I did some but must admit, if Jerry hadn't done the lion's share we wouldn't be where we are today.  The hull as well as the rudder is completely planked and copper plated and we are ready to proceed with wales, stringers and strips.  Since Jerry is very bad with colors, it'll be my pleasure to do the painting.  I really hope I spend some quality time with Bounty as I truly believe it'll be a very nice model when completed.
 
Here are some pictures to show OUR progress and I hope I haven't disappointed anyone by asking my hubby to contribute more of his skills.
 
Charlene

TERROR MODIFIED: THE HISTORIC PLANS (Part 2)
  1839 Sheets
The Terror was again extensively refitted for the 1839-1843 Ross Expedition. Some of these modifications, such as the change to a forced air heating system and the extension of a ring of solid chock channels around the entire ship, were obviously a direct result of lessons learned from the 1836/37 Back Expedition. However, many of the 1839 modifications resulted from a process of standardization with her sister hip, HMS Erebus. This was based on Sir Edward Parry’s longstanding policy of outfitting exploration fleets with identical equipment, the rationale being that one vessel’s fittings could be used to repair another in the case of catastrophe (Battersby and Carney 2011:203).  Rice, the shipwright in charge of the 1839 refit, provides an excellent description of the modifications done to the ships at this time, and it is worth noting here in its entirety (Ross 1847).
 

 


 
The 1839 plans illustrate the inboard profile and all decks, although the Terror’s modified lines are not represented. All sheets are labeled “Terror and Erebus”, reflecting both the similar design of the ships and the identical manner in which they were outfitted. Uniquely, the 1839 plans provide a midships cross section which depicts the planking configuration, the dimensions (thickens and widths) of the planks, and the position and construction of the watertight bulkheads, as well as other inboard details.

Comparing these plans to the Terror’s 1813 and 1836 configuration clearly indicates that the 1839 sheets depict the Erebus. By this time the ships were almost identical in length and had very similar lines, but the draught and breadth of the Erebus were still greater than the Terror and this is reflected in the inboard profile, midships section, and lower deck plans. Furthermore, the upper deck plans included dashed red lines depicting alternate positions of ship’s boats, labeled “Terror”, implying that the plans depict the Erebus. A noteworthy exception to this exists with the midships section; while the frames drawn match the contours and dimensions of the Erebus in breadth, the height/draught of the decks and bulwarks appear to be based on HMS Terror’s dimensions. It seems likely that this was an error on the part of the draughtsperson, who must have been working from multiple reference sheets depicting multiple vessels.

The 1839 modifications included a series of diagonal iron riders bolted to the frames in the midsection, with iron crutches and sleepers at the bow and stern to increase strength. Fewer, but larger, iron storage tanks were placed in the hold (reduced from 47 to 22), though the available historical record is mute on the rationale for this change. The unreliable hot water heating system was replaced with a much larger and more reliable “Sylverster’s Patent” hot air heating system, which would remain onboard for the subsequent 1845 voyage (Battersby and Carney 2011:200). Finally, the copper bow sheeting was also extended along the side of the ship below the solid chock channels.

It is important to reiterate that the 1839 plans introduce a critical fact; despite proportional differences in size, the ships were fitted-out in an identical fashion. Indeed, contemporary accounts outline the similarity of vessels (Anonymous 1839:405).
 
 


 
Besides the unseen internal framing and architecture, the only significant difference between the Terror and Erebus was one of proportion; reflected in the alternate positions of fittings and furniture, such as hatchways, masts, capstans pumps, etc. to account for the difference in size of the vessels. This has obvious implications for model building, as it implies that the 1839 plans, though based on the flagship Erebus, are likely to be largely applicable to the Terror. 
 
 
References:

Anonymous
1839   The Antarctic Expedition. Gentleman’s Magazine 12:405-407.

Battersby, William, and Carney, Peter 2011    Equipping HM Ships Erebus and Terror, 1845. International Journal for the History of Engineering & Technology 81(2):192-211.

Ross, Sir James Clark
1847    A Voyage of Discovery and Research in the Southern and Antarctic Regions, During the Years 1839-1843: Volume I. John Murray, London.

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

Don thank you for visiting my build log again.. :)  And for the encouragment comments.
 
Regards
Dimitris

And some more photos... (Better quality)
 
Cheers
Dimitris
 
 

Hello shipmates, the work on the shipyard continues....I do thank you all for your likes and comments..Really appreciate it!!!
Here are some photos...
 
Kind Regards
Dimitris