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Thanks Keith and Mike. Yes your right Mike. First ship with a wood deck be it plastic in the main. Did this before reading the AoV, copied the Heller plastic deck, but will sort on the upper , quarter decks plus not for getting poop deck. Hope the detail will hide most of the wrong doing as this deck will be hidden. As you see I have all the right books now foxy -
Nice build and just read through all the work so far, being a late comer, there's so much here that really takes some beating. Really like your work and will be watching this build with great interest. Foxy
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Stunning work there shihawk, or should I call you Boyd . The window glaze idea is good, keep it thin for that type of work, me thinks. Foxy
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Pictures can never give a true reading Steve, but that looks epic. Like your spacing too. Foxy
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So now to the masts. Added bras rod to the centre's of fore/main and mizzen masts. Not really ness, but for strength I went ahead and did this. Next it was the rings around masts, they were not sharp enuff I thought, so sanded and replaced with slaters plastic strips. These were painted black Using admiralty Paints(water based). Will add more later for other decks as I go along. Foxy
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Next comes the detailing of the lower deck, with Dafi's excellent pictures of his work on this deck has helped me. plus he sent with the etch some seconds he built, but to him were under par for his work. To me they were just what I was looking for, the capstans I used but made the riding bitts ,main pump from evergreen plastic. Here shows the main and jeer capstons, these saved me a lot of work I can tell you. Next it was making the riding bits. Sandwiched two pieces of evergreen together to make the thickness. Measured up and finished with the bits. . Next in turn were the main pumps all located on this deck. Once I had these items done it was the turn of the hatch's gangway's , These again had to be scratch built using evergreen plastic. Used dafi's etch grills at this stage for some of the hatch's. Later I cut out the gangway's to fit ladders. Very Important at this stage to make sure all line's up, masts/ hatchs and capstans, being that there are two capstans, one on lower and one on middle deck which could be used as single or together. So next it will be the masts. Foxy
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No problem Chuck, Its very easy to miss the topic as did I, thinking it was the top/upper deck and not the base that Steve was talking about. I have been modelling for near 40 years and still asking questions and still learning. Good luck Steve on your build. Foxy
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Do remember Chuck. this is a hobby and Steve asked the question about nails in his build, the picture shown could have been the upper deck for all I know. I will however refrain from commenting again on this build. Sorry to have upset you. foxy
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Thank you JP and Wayne. JP yes there is a resin set of the entry port by Dafi . Picture from Dafi's build, with his kind permission. Showing the set, you get two sets plus the crown and wreath above the entrance. Hope to show later in the build. You are right on the jib boom, that will be in brass. foxy
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Well time to show the inners of the hull to get the right thickness. I used evergreen plastic and maple wood for the inside planking. At the same time worked on the lower deck planking This deck come's in two parts, glued both together. The planking is wrong as the joins should be three to four planks apart. My first mistake, till I took advice, but as its a deck you will not see I will put it down to learning about planking. Finished deck, then its test fit to hull. Note the maple fitted to lower deck. Next was spraying a primer for plastic and brass. Drilled- cut out the two for'd windows. Seems the primer is good for resin too. Foxy
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Thanks Chuck for that, yes your right on diff nations idea's for nailing planks. I only know about British practise where double and single nails were used to hold planks down. Double were joins between end of plank and singles between that. Of course for Steves build, nailing the bottom base is a waste of time and money. Foxy
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Great work there Paul, that looks fantastic work on the stern balusters. Do you have the anatomy of nelsons ships by C Nepean Longridge, on page 142 is a Diagram of how this was done. Copyright prevents me from showing a picture. Not sure if this will help, as you seem to be getting there with that wonderfull baluster look in your picture. Foxy
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Afraid not on this type of ship. But the nails were in two's at the joins between planks end to end and single nails between for most ships. But could be wrong for this one. Foxy
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In that scale Steve I would go for nails shipmate. Some do it with pins, but a black pen would also make it look good, Not sure if that type of ship had Caulk between the planks, that to using a pen on one side will show the effect very easy when planking. Foxy
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Excuse my ignorance Steve. Lovely build so far and very interesting subject. What scale are we talking about for this build. if its bigger than 1/96, then yes go for the nails, will look much better. Watching with Interest Cheers foxy
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Late comer Stuart. Great job there shipmate. Like your planking in that scale, 2mm is it. I assume by now you have enuff pictures, plus drawings of this ship. Lovely work Cheers foxy
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Well time for a change, and seems most go for the guns, so gun's it is. I will be working on these throughout the build. First the barrels come in two parts and the trucks in five parts, then there's Dafi's King George crest and eyebolts, plus trunnion caps . Made up the barrels. The trucks. 'Hey presto'. Added trigger caps to the 32 pounders out of plastic. Added eyebolts and KG Crest. 60 done for the lower and middle decks. Lower gun has the flintlock trigger from Dafi's etch, plus the KG motif on the barrel. More soon. Foxy
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Hi Tim. Thanks for the interest, much appreciated. Good to know that others like the idea of mixing plastic with PE/resin . Tis a good combination, will also be using wood for the decks and Syren blocks for the guns and rigging. Plus some of the boats from the 1/96 Revel USS Constitution. So will be a mix and match. Lots of scratch building for the lower decks, there sparse for the 32 and 24 Pdr decks. Cheers for now. Foxy
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Hi Jerry. Just joined this happy band of ship builders site, and been looking at your build. May I say stunning workmanship sir. Yep the flag set from model boats and there's also www. model- dockyard.com in Truro if that helps, they to do the flags, they are very good and all sizes can be purchased. If you have trouble, maybe I could get them for you. I see your 11 years older than me , or is it younger. Happy modelling cheers foxy
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Thanks Daniel . Hi Keith. Well if it was not for Daniels etch and resin set, plus his very extensive posting of his lower deck detail, I to would have gone the wood ship direction. I like working in plastic, so this has proved a challenge for me to also get as much detail on the gun decks. Moving on with my build, I started on the hull and stern area first, most it seems go for the building of the guns, I to am going down that road, first to keep me grey cells ticking over plus to not lose interest in the build, working on one area of the ship will soon make it hard work, an interest fade.. Right enuff rattling, on with the show. After cleaning up the stern I sprayed a plastic/brass primer overall, 'will explain later why later'. First the stern etch fitted, less the eye bolts which I will fit when all is finished with the windows etc. Filled in pot holes to the inside, later sand down. Then added the Dafi's victory sign , it comes with a template so you cannot go wrong on the spacing of the letters. Next it was the crown, 'now this might seem strange', when the ship comes with the three feathers of the Prince of Wales. I am sure most know about this, but for those that do not, the plumes came from Nelsons last battle and were retrieved for the second rate HMS Prince, that unfortunately sank at this battle, the plume was rescued and placed on the Victory later. But my build is before the battle, so there is a picture of the crown in the wardroom of victory's upper deck. That's the reason for replacing the plume for a crown. I had Dafis etch one made up but it pinged off into the wilderness, so had to scratch build this, But still had the etch small parts on the fret, so saved me making them. Next I added the Dafi's etch rigols to the hull. Also added Dafi's resin steps, using CA, this job you have to be very care full with as some need sanding down to fit flush against the hull side. Doing all this before adding first primer of paint. More soon. Foxy
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Fantastic work on the pinnace, not had time yet(just arrived) to read your whole thread, but after seeing the last few pictures, I will be back to take this onboard for further viewing. Maybe a coin would show folks how big/ small the work is in your pictures. Cheers foxy
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Very nice build. Like the cradle idea you have built to hold the ship. Foxy
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Books I am using are:- Anatomy of HMS Victory= by John McKay. Seaforth Historical Ships, HMS Victory= by Jonathan Eastland & Iain Ballantyne. Owners workshop manual of HMS Victory=by Haynes(Royal Navy). The Anatomy of Nelsons ships=by C Nepean Longridge. Rigging period ships = by Lennarth Petersson. Started by removing the single style steps. Having studded the plans I found the lug support for the bower anchor was in the wrong place, so had to make another. Using evergreen plastic for this item. Cleared all detail:- three feathers(later for a crown), removed the Victory name plate from the rear Will replace with the Dafi fret of this sign. More soon Foxy
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Hi. New here. I see that any medium of ship can be shown here as a build. Mine will be from the Heller Kit, but with Dafi's etch sets. Will also scratch build most of the deck detail from the lower deck to the poop deck. Materials used will be the plastic, PE and resin. Some of the etch I will be using. Will be altering the hull steps to the later part of Victory's career. Also using evergreen and syrin rope, blocks and other items. Hope you find this Interesting. Foxy
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I use photo bucket, found that after entering the reply page and pressing the small square in top left hand corner that I can post pictures ok. Not sure if this has been said already . Foxy
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