Louie da fly
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Louie da fly reacted to Chuck Seiler in Wütender Hund by Chuck Seiler - Shipyard - 1/72 - Hanseatic Cog 1390 - CARD
Much progress made. All the false frames have been installed and the interior planking also installed. I was concerned with staining under the interior planking. As you can see there are gaps between the strakes and you can see underneath. The back side of the planks are not the same material as the front and do not take stain well. One side I attempted to stain and the other I painted.
The interior planking took stain well. I used 2 coats of Natural and 2 of Golden Pecan. I will probably use the same for the exterior planking. Should I apply Poly Wipe On or will it goober up the finish (the stain being oil based)?
Center deck planking has been added and stained as well. Hatch coaming added.
I am now at the same point of construction as I am with Cardy Dog.
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Louie da fly reacted to catopower in Wütender Hund by Chuck Seiler - Shipyard - 1/72 - Hanseatic Cog 1390 - CARD
Hi Chuck! I haven't peeked in on either your Cardy Dog or Woody Dog builds in a while. Woody Dog looks really good with the staining you did. It's also nice in that it seems to bring out those laser engraved nail heads.
I've been busy with various things, but I will get back to finishing my Bremen Cog shortly. Your build is giving me some inspiration!
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Louie da fly reacted to Chuck Seiler in Wütender Hund by Chuck Seiler - Shipyard - 1/72 - Hanseatic Cog 1390 - CARD
I am really liking the wood version. The parts are much crisper and forgiving.
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Louie da fly reacted to Emmet in Santa Maria by Emmet - Amati - 1:65-Columbus Caravelle 1492 -Third Wooden Ship Build
We will be leaving Florida for Jersey 1st week of April.
I am not going to put the masts up until I get to Jersey. Our Odyssey gets pretty loaded for the trip north.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in 17th century English merchant flags
As far as he can make out his ancestor came from England to Virginia as an indentured labourer in 1679 (not 1684 as I previously stated) on a ship called the Josiah, which is described as a frigate. But most of his information is from Wikipedia and can't really be verified further.
He's a beginner who wants to build a kit model of the Josiah (which is of course impossible - no kits exist, and there's no real idea of what the Josiah was like - so I've pointed him at the nearest thing - and not very near at that - Corel's Berlin). I don't think he's interested in historical accuracy - he just wants a nice model to display to his friends so he can say "The Josiah was a bit like that", which is fine by me.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in 17th century English merchant flags
Thanks everyone for the answers. Very interesting. I'd thought those would be the flags flown, but didn't know if they were confined to warships. Chuck, interestingly enough I'm trying to find out for someone whose ancestors were colonists in 1684.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in 17th century English merchant flags
Thanks everyone for the answers. Very interesting. I'd thought those would be the flags flown, but didn't know if they were confined to warships. Chuck, interestingly enough I'm trying to find out for someone whose ancestors were colonists in 1684.
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Keith Black in Greetings from California
Welcome to MSW, Bill. I'd also recommend you start a build log when you begin your build. A great way to get feedback, help, advice and encouragement.
The instructions are here:
Steven
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Louie da fly reacted to Chuck Seiler in 17th century English merchant flags
Would this also be true of a ship carrying colonists from London to Philadelphia in 1683? I suppose, after all, it IS a merchant ship.
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Louie da fly reacted to Lieste in 17th century English merchant flags
Don't forget the widespread use of false flags (e.g French/Dutch used as a means of delaying, confusing or avoiding interception and attack. or to bypass blockades of ports etc).
This was a near universal done sparingly both by warships trying to close on an easy sailing 'prey' and by a slower, weaker merchant trying to avoid trouble. Though not performed at *every* meeting on the seas, and it had some limited utility as vessels had distinctive hull form and rigging details which would betray their true origin (though not *necessarily* current use), when closely observed by a knowledgable officer or crew, but the benefit of starting a pursuit at gun shot, rather than from 4 miles or more is obvious, as is the possibility to slip through a blockade on papers and a flag of convenience .
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Louie da fly reacted to Mark P in 17th century English merchant flags
Good Evening Stephen;
Druxey is correct, but they flew the St George's cross also. Timothy Wilson's very useful book 'Flags at sea' gives the following for merchant ships, set down by a royal proclamation in 1674:
'The Flag and Jack White, with a Red Cross (commonly called the Saint George's Cross) passing quite through the same [that is, filling the whole flag, not in the canton] And the Ensign Red, with the like Cross in a Canton White, at the upper corner thereof next the staff'.
English merchant vessels were banned from using the Union flag as flown on the King's ships from 1606. However, it would appear that many vessels ignored this ban, as it brought exemptions from various duties and requirements in some foreign ports, and helped to prevent having crews pressed; as well as, presumably, helping to discourage pirates from attacking what might be taken as a warship from a distance.
That the ban was widely ignored is illustrated by various attempts to stamp out the practice, including by Samuel Pepys; seemingly without much success, as such attempts and various proclamations prohibiting it, continued into the 18th century.
Various official trading organisations, such as the East India Company, also flew their own flag.
all the best,
Mark
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Louie da fly reacted to druxey in 17th century English merchant flags
I believe that a red ensign would (pre-Union) have been flown.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Chuck Seiler in 17th century English merchant flags
That pretty much says it - does anyone know what flag/s would have been flown by an English merchant ship in the 1670s-1690s?
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Canute in USS MAINE by steven. R - sheet metal
Having worked with sheet metal myself, I'm very interested in how you went about shaping the hull.
Fascinating project!
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Tony Hunt in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Onto fiddly bits.
Here's the picture in Björn Landström's book The Ship I originally worked from, showing the dragon figurehead and the decorative crown and flagpole on the bowsprit:
I'd already carved the dragon-head - now I've painted it:
Very happy with the crazed look on his face.
And here is the flagpole/crown assembly
I made a mistake - the fore topmast had snapped off just above the top and I was intending to just glue it back onto the remaining stub. Then I forgot what I was doing and removed the stub. So I had to reconfigure the topmast by adding an extra bit of wood to replace the stub . . .
and carve it to shape.
I wouldn't have needed to do any of this, if I'd remembered what I'd originally planned
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in A small cog c. 1410 by Brinkman - FINISHED - scale 1:20
That's such a great idea! And the vessel looks just right being supported by the book. It'll probably be something most people miss on first inspection, and you can perhaps enjoy the "Aha!" moment as they realise the book really is about the ship.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in The Elusive Hulc by woodrat - FINISHED - 1:32 - plank-on-frame - a speculative reconstruction of a mediaeval merchantman
Beautiful work (as usual), Dick.
Steven
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Louie da fly reacted to bolin in A small cog c. 1410 by Brinkman - FINISHED - scale 1:20
Wow, you certainly went the extra mile on that support!
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Louie da fly reacted to bolin in Medieval longship by bolin - FINISHED - 1:30 - based on reconstruction Helga Holm
Thanks Silverman
I have started to work on the keelson. Only a small 1.45 m fragment is preserved in the find, so the reconstruction used comparative material from other sites, for example the viking ships from Skuldelev in Denmark.
The reconstruction work came to the conclusion that the keelson was made from several parts. There is no indication of how long, but the ship builder advised to make it quite long to improve the lengthwise strength. Now it goes all the way between the third and fifteenth frame.
The hole in the preserved piece shows that the keelson was fastened to the frames using tree nails. An alternative method is shown in the Incredible Hulc by @woodrat. According to the reconstruction report, the tree nail method was more common during the medieval times and in the Baltic, than the side support methods which was more "west-scandinavian".
At the moment I'm building the keelson from strip wood, but am tempted to use a piece of natural wood as woodrat has done.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Brinkman in A small cog c. 1410 by Brinkman - FINISHED - scale 1:20
That's such a great idea! And the vessel looks just right being supported by the book. It'll probably be something most people miss on first inspection, and you can perhaps enjoy the "Aha!" moment as they realise the book really is about the ship.
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Louie da fly reacted to bolin in The Elusive Hulc by woodrat - FINISHED - 1:32 - plank-on-frame - a speculative reconstruction of a mediaeval merchantman
Seeing your keelson makes me wonder if I should reconsider how I plan to do it in my long ship. Beautiful work.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Stevinne in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Onto fiddly bits.
Here's the picture in Björn Landström's book The Ship I originally worked from, showing the dragon figurehead and the decorative crown and flagpole on the bowsprit:
I'd already carved the dragon-head - now I've painted it:
Very happy with the crazed look on his face.
And here is the flagpole/crown assembly
I made a mistake - the fore topmast had snapped off just above the top and I was intending to just glue it back onto the remaining stub. Then I forgot what I was doing and removed the stub. So I had to reconfigure the topmast by adding an extra bit of wood to replace the stub . . .
and carve it to shape.
I wouldn't have needed to do any of this, if I'd remembered what I'd originally planned
Steven
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Louie da fly reacted to kondzik in Saettia by Kondzik - FINISHED - WAK 7-8/2015 - 1:100 - CARD
I've managed to finish the planking. I've used last two planks on each side to correct any accumulated errors. It worked out quite well on bow and stern but in the middle there are small gaps left. Fortunately they will be covered with bumper strips (or maybe I should call it wales). Almost all planks where a bit longer than needed (around 0,5 - 1mm) which is nice and allows for some leeway. Only one on left side initially was shorter by about 0,5mm (first light brown counting from bottom and it was last one glued) but after some more sanding of previous layers I've managed to get it right. I might have made some errors in previous stages, not enough sanding maybe.
On bow there is there is some trimming required but I am going to do it during cap rail fitting.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from End Of The Line in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Onto fiddly bits.
Here's the picture in Björn Landström's book The Ship I originally worked from, showing the dragon figurehead and the decorative crown and flagpole on the bowsprit:
I'd already carved the dragon-head - now I've painted it:
Very happy with the crazed look on his face.
And here is the flagpole/crown assembly
I made a mistake - the fore topmast had snapped off just above the top and I was intending to just glue it back onto the remaining stub. Then I forgot what I was doing and removed the stub. So I had to reconfigure the topmast by adding an extra bit of wood to replace the stub . . .
and carve it to shape.
I wouldn't have needed to do any of this, if I'd remembered what I'd originally planned
Steven
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - FINISHED - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 50 yrs of neglect
Onto fiddly bits.
Here's the picture in Björn Landström's book The Ship I originally worked from, showing the dragon figurehead and the decorative crown and flagpole on the bowsprit:
I'd already carved the dragon-head - now I've painted it:
Very happy with the crazed look on his face.
And here is the flagpole/crown assembly
I made a mistake - the fore topmast had snapped off just above the top and I was intending to just glue it back onto the remaining stub. Then I forgot what I was doing and removed the stub. So I had to reconfigure the topmast by adding an extra bit of wood to replace the stub . . .
and carve it to shape.
I wouldn't have needed to do any of this, if I'd remembered what I'd originally planned
Steven
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