Landrotten Highlander

Hello,
 
here some pictures of the actual progress. 
 

 

 

Hello,
 
many thanks for your kind words and likes.
 
Yesterday I build the last strakes. For that I laid a pice paper between the plug and the boat. With a scalpel I scratch on it the contours of the strake and cut it afterwards. 
 

 

 

 
And here the strake is in place
 

 
This morning I carefully sanded the hull. It is not always perfect, but I'm satisfied with the result. The next thing would be to make the interior, to stiffen the hull. 
 

 

 
Working with these pins was really a great innovation and very useful. Thank you for that Johann.

Continuation.
 
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 
The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
http://5500.forumact...ndre-1-24#66516
 
 
 
Regards, Pawel

Thank you all for the well wishes and questions  
 
Just to answer a few questions I have received about this Royal Barge.
 
-  It is circa 1700 - Queen Anne Style Royal Barge
 
- It WILL be a full Kit and not a scratch/with some laser cut parts.  My first full kit with everything all included.   
 
- It is 1:24 scale and will be about 20" long.  
 
-The stock kit will be made in Cherry with boxwood carvings and trim in place of gilding.  A boxwood or Pear upgrade version will also be made available as special order.  But the cherry will look great and be far less expensive.  I am using prime pieces that are "cherry-picked" for a lighter tone.  Examine the image below and look at how much waste wood there would be on each frame if Boxwood or pear was used...each kit in those woods will be considerably more expensive and mostly used up for the frame centers.   So consider this if you intend to order a custom cut version in Box or Pear. 
 
- The build board....for lack of a better word is included.  Its a design choice to replace of all of those pesky wood strips people glue across the frames for the longboat and pinnace to stabalize it for fairing and planking.  I have learned a lot watching all of you build those. This replaces the need for those and provides a sturdy base to Clinker plank....only three strakes will be on each kit to mirror the contemporary examples we are all familiar with.  They will be pre-spiled and laser cut to make it easier.
 
- The vertical lines shown on frames "10" and "J" in the previous post are there as a visual reference.  They are there so when you place the keel assembly on top of the frames.... you can eyeball the hull from dead astern and at the bow to make sure its straight and not tilted one way or the other.  Its a slightly different build concept than placing the frames into the keel slots first like the longboat.   The build-board lines them all up so you dont have to fight with trying to get them all centered and perpendicular....those that built the pinnace and longboat know what I am referencing.  It was a pain to do well and there are many many more frames in this kit.  It has proven more effective to place the keel onto the frames afterwards.....  
 
-  I dont have any idea of price yet because its too soon in the prototype process to tell.  
 
Thanks for the interest and its OK to ask the questions in this topic....I am sure many others have the same questions and its easier to answer them once here.  
 
Thanks again
 
Chuck
 

No problem, Pat.   I've gathered my thoughts together and took another look at my references.
 
Somewhere around 1765, all the frigates ended up with this look for the quarter galleries.  Prior to that, their galleries looked something like this:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4023-lamarante-by-giampieroricci-1749-french-corvette-scale-130/?p=408269(see the second photo down).  While that is more of a quarterbadge being flat against the hull, the galleries were of similar design but rounded outward for the facilities.
 
Both the English and French did seem to engage in forms of subterfuge to fool an enemy ship.  For example, HMS Roebuck, a 44 two gundeck frigate has a second set of dummy stern windows and (if I recall correctly, a double set of windows in the quarter galleries)such that from a distance she would look like a 74.  When the quarter galleries for the frigates changed, they all look similar.  There's some differences other than size between a 8-pdr frigate and a 12-pdr frigate...  but the appearance from a distance is the same.   The stern windows on Licorne start at the quarter deck beams and come down. They sit high which makes the ship appear larger than she is.
 
In Licorne's case, you'll see when I do the interior, the door to the galleries is only about 4-1/2 feet high.  The roof of the gallery would have to be hollow to give the officer some room to stand up. The gallery itself is barely wide enough for an officer to sit.  There was also a ruling that galleries should not be visible from astern but Licorne violates this rule.  Belle Poule. Hermione, and Le Venus had the headroom but also had the decorative rail.  I haven't studied all the ship's plans in depth on this but they appear to be like Druxey mentioned and what John showed.  Maybe not a cistern but the area inside the rail appears to be open and some items kept there.
 
The reasoning just seems to boil down to appearance. But I've run into a couple of things like this that make me say "Huh?" and so I follow the drawings, do a bit of research to see if this matches and sadly, I don't always rationalize it by connecting the dots like I just did.
 
One other tidbit I found interesting is that due to the hull shape differences between French and English frigates, the French ships were crowded.  The space between decks wasn't as great as the English ships as they moved the lower deck up for carrying capacity in the hold.  What this caused was that the sailors basically slept where ever they could find space as hammocks wouldn't have worked.  They would sleep on the lower deck forward of officer's country, on the hawse cable, in the hold on the barrels even between the guns on the gundeck.  Literally where ever they could find the space.  
 
Footnote... basic differences between an 8-pdr frigate and 12-pdr... the quarterdeck extends in front of the main mast, the 8-pdr, it stops behind it.  On the 12-pdr, the fireplace for cooking is on the centerline just aft of the main bitts.  On the 8-pdr, it's divided into two fireplaces and they are outboard on the deck between the first and second gunport.  Only 12-pdrs seem to have the bridle ports which are the only ports to have permanent lids.Hatchways/gratings are in different locations and numbers but that's due to what needed to be accessed below the deck.
 
Hmm... I've rambled on enough for now.  I admit, it's been a steep learning curve.

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Thank you Albert, Louie, Cog and EJ_L,
your kind words are always good for a poor modeler´s soul.
Thanks also for the likes.
 
For a year I am working on the five boats for the French corvette.
Now they are ready and here at the end some pictures of all five.
I hope you like them.

 

 

Nice job.
One thing though - is it me, or is the scroll on one side different than on the other side of ths ship (pictures aftscrolla and aftscroll2a?

first sight with all the guns

Didn't hurt at all, Druxey.  The embarrassing thing is that it took someone else to point it out to me.  That is the beauty of MSW.  We are a community that really cares for the quality of work presented.  

And here is the re-worked scroll.
 

 
 
 
 

Thank you all for your kind comments! Yesterday came to visit me my friend, brought to display their boats, which are made in scale 1:20. Valery has kindly allowed to take photos and show them on this Forum.

A little progress: the anklet and the cleats

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next small update


 

The original bronze spindle-nut seems to have had a left-hand thread of 4 mm x 1 mm, so it was drilled out 3.7 mm for the 4.5 mm x 1 mm thread and the thread re-cut with the appropriate tap. The odd digs and dents were removed by a light cut on both ends in the lathe.
 

Parts of the spindle and its bearings
 
A test assembly showed that everything worked as planned. The ball-handle crank has been bought-in and is fixed by set-screws, rather than being pinned as was the Lorch-practice.
 

Spindle in place, but micro-meter sleeve still to be made
 
To be continued ...

It's a rainy weekend, and I'm still working on the railing caps. As you can see, the two sisters are slowly growing apart.
 

 

 

 

 
Enjoy,
Gregor

Hello,
Mark and Charles,
thanks for the acclaim and all for LIKES.

I almost forgot small details.
This gig had aft four sheaveholes. Presumably that were there to
sailing and for the rudder of the gig.

 
The sheaves have a diameter of 2 mm and a thickness of 0.45 mm and are made of brass.
 
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