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vossy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in King of the Mississippi by drobinson02199 - FINISHED -- Artesania Latina - 1:80
This is looking really nice Dave. Should be a fairly straight forward hull planking with the one piece sides and bottom sections. Did you choose the deck planking pattern or was it like this in the instructions?
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in King of the Mississippi by drobinson02199 - FINISHED -- Artesania Latina - 1:80
Love these boats, will definitely be keeping an eye on this. What are the dimensions of this model?
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from BETAQDAVE in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
Hey Oliver, I would definitely follow OC's advice. Then you never bend the planks upwards or downwards. You taper them accordingly and they will take on the bent appearance on their own. Bending, or trying to bend, the planks upwards will result in snapping and skewing of the plank so they don't lie flat on the false bulkheads. I would recommend not relying too much on the pictures provided in the instructions. Use them as a rough guide only. Good to see you have read Mastini's excellent book. I regard it as the bible of ship modelling, but I would also advise to read the many tutorials on planking that are available on this forum. Just remember that first planking on this, and any other double planked model, doesn't have to/need to be perfect. You will find with some filler and a lot of sanding it is not too hard to get a really good canvas to apply the second (final) planking layer on this model. Also the second layer of planking is far thinner and more pliable wood to use than the first layer on this model.
You are doing well mate.
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
Hey Oliver, I would definitely follow OC's advice. Then you never bend the planks upwards or downwards. You taper them accordingly and they will take on the bent appearance on their own. Bending, or trying to bend, the planks upwards will result in snapping and skewing of the plank so they don't lie flat on the false bulkheads. I would recommend not relying too much on the pictures provided in the instructions. Use them as a rough guide only. Good to see you have read Mastini's excellent book. I regard it as the bible of ship modelling, but I would also advise to read the many tutorials on planking that are available on this forum. Just remember that first planking on this, and any other double planked model, doesn't have to/need to be perfect. You will find with some filler and a lot of sanding it is not too hard to get a really good canvas to apply the second (final) planking layer on this model. Also the second layer of planking is far thinner and more pliable wood to use than the first layer on this model.
You are doing well mate.
Chris
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vossy reacted to Old Collingwood in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
The very first thing I would do before putting Any planks on the hull or anything else, is to put some strengthening strips of wood between each and every rib/frame to give them support, try to fit a couple in each gap fairly close to the edge (say about a centimeter from the edge), make sure you have the same even gap between rib/frames on both sides to keep it all square.
Then the Really Important part - you need to sand the edges of each rib/frame with something flat as the ship needs a smooth area for the planks to follow, (The edges of the ribs/frames left as they are will cause the planks to stick out and not follow a smooth line)
I would really concentrate on doing this first before attaempting to lay a single plank on the hull.
Hope this helps.
OC.
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vossy got a reaction from fnkershner in Mamoli kit
Have only half built one Mamoli kit (Golden Hind). Only half built her because that was all that came in the kit! Would never, ever buy another kit from them!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from Canute in Mamoli kit
Have only half built one Mamoli kit (Golden Hind). Only half built her because that was all that came in the kit! Would never, ever buy another kit from them!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from BETAQDAVE in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
Hello Oliver, I have built this kit and can say it is a really fantastic model (but I am a Columbus freak!). I found it had ample wood and pretty good instructions. The rigging I found to be pretty straight forward. Just take your time and ask questions when you come to any parts of the build you are unsure of. I can certainly answer many questions about this, or any of Columbus' ships and voyages, and I am certain I will not be alone here on that count. I will definitely follow your log with interest, and who knows, it may even inspire me to build this model again as I gave the last one to my mother. Chris
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vossy got a reaction from mtaylor in Mamoli kit
Have only half built one Mamoli kit (Golden Hind). Only half built her because that was all that came in the kit! Would never, ever buy another kit from them!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
Hello Oliver, I have built this kit and can say it is a really fantastic model (but I am a Columbus freak!). I found it had ample wood and pretty good instructions. The rigging I found to be pretty straight forward. Just take your time and ask questions when you come to any parts of the build you are unsure of. I can certainly answer many questions about this, or any of Columbus' ships and voyages, and I am certain I will not be alone here on that count. I will definitely follow your log with interest, and who knows, it may even inspire me to build this model again as I gave the last one to my mother. Chris
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vossy got a reaction from Oliver24 in Santa Maria by Oliver24 - Amati - Scale 1:65 - First wooden ship
Hello Oliver, I have built this kit and can say it is a really fantastic model (but I am a Columbus freak!). I found it had ample wood and pretty good instructions. The rigging I found to be pretty straight forward. Just take your time and ask questions when you come to any parts of the build you are unsure of. I can certainly answer many questions about this, or any of Columbus' ships and voyages, and I am certain I will not be alone here on that count. I will definitely follow your log with interest, and who knows, it may even inspire me to build this model again as I gave the last one to my mother. Chris
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vossy got a reaction from Rob S in Gluing Planks When Wet
place and clamp the plank in as near to exact position as possible whilst it is wet/damp. allow to dry (I usually leave overnight), then glue in place. some extremely minor movement maybe required prior to final dry gluing, but not too much as to break the plank.
Never glue damp or wet planks. it results in the glue being diluted, and thus not creating as strong a bond as you would desire and expect.
also, wood expands and contracts when it is damp. once it is dry, it will hold its shape better.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in King of the Mississippi by drobinson02199 - FINISHED -- Artesania Latina - 1:80
well done dave, super job, she looks really good! any plans to put her in a case?
chris
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in King of the Mississippi by drobinson02199 - FINISHED -- Artesania Latina - 1:80
FINISHED!!
My build of King of the Mississippi is now complete. Pictures attached.
Need to create a shelf for this in my office, and do a cleanup on the workroom. Might start the next one (Amati Grand Banks) before I go away on the 6th for a week in the Carib.
Regards,
David
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vossy got a reaction from allanyed in Gluing Planks When Wet
hey mike, 99% of the time I just use nails for the first planking. of course they are not driven in all the way and are easy to remove once the plank has dried and taken on its shape. at this stage it is pretty rare you will need any clamps to glue it into place, but if I find I do I mainly just use rubber bands.
I also only ever put one plank on each side whilst waiting for it to dry. ok, so it does take a long time this way, but as I am doing this I just begin other aspects of the build. here you can begin deck furniture, guns, masts etc. so you are not really losing any time on the overall build.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from mtaylor in Gluing Planks When Wet
hey mike, 99% of the time I just use nails for the first planking. of course they are not driven in all the way and are easy to remove once the plank has dried and taken on its shape. at this stage it is pretty rare you will need any clamps to glue it into place, but if I find I do I mainly just use rubber bands.
I also only ever put one plank on each side whilst waiting for it to dry. ok, so it does take a long time this way, but as I am doing this I just begin other aspects of the build. here you can begin deck furniture, guns, masts etc. so you are not really losing any time on the overall build.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from Canute in Gluing Planks When Wet
hey mike, 99% of the time I just use nails for the first planking. of course they are not driven in all the way and are easy to remove once the plank has dried and taken on its shape. at this stage it is pretty rare you will need any clamps to glue it into place, but if I find I do I mainly just use rubber bands.
I also only ever put one plank on each side whilst waiting for it to dry. ok, so it does take a long time this way, but as I am doing this I just begin other aspects of the build. here you can begin deck furniture, guns, masts etc. so you are not really losing any time on the overall build.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from hornet in Gluing Planks When Wet
hey mike, 99% of the time I just use nails for the first planking. of course they are not driven in all the way and are easy to remove once the plank has dried and taken on its shape. at this stage it is pretty rare you will need any clamps to glue it into place, but if I find I do I mainly just use rubber bands.
I also only ever put one plank on each side whilst waiting for it to dry. ok, so it does take a long time this way, but as I am doing this I just begin other aspects of the build. here you can begin deck furniture, guns, masts etc. so you are not really losing any time on the overall build.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from Cathead in Gluing Planks When Wet
place and clamp the plank in as near to exact position as possible whilst it is wet/damp. allow to dry (I usually leave overnight), then glue in place. some extremely minor movement maybe required prior to final dry gluing, but not too much as to break the plank.
Never glue damp or wet planks. it results in the glue being diluted, and thus not creating as strong a bond as you would desire and expect.
also, wood expands and contracts when it is damp. once it is dry, it will hold its shape better.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Gluing Planks When Wet
place and clamp the plank in as near to exact position as possible whilst it is wet/damp. allow to dry (I usually leave overnight), then glue in place. some extremely minor movement maybe required prior to final dry gluing, but not too much as to break the plank.
Never glue damp or wet planks. it results in the glue being diluted, and thus not creating as strong a bond as you would desire and expect.
also, wood expands and contracts when it is damp. once it is dry, it will hold its shape better.
chris
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vossy got a reaction from Archi in new important wreck discovered!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/hmas-ae1-submarine-found-after-century-long-search/9278782
RIP to all those brave souls who perished with her.
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from thibaultron in new important wreck discovered!
Well Pat she is a fair way down. 300 meters I believe. It would take some serious equipment to get anywhere near her at that sort of depth given most conventional subs have a crush depth of about 400 meters.
Of course increasing the penalty for looting such wrecks to maybe include being locked in a small room with a dozen or so very angry ex-pussers might also work!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from davyboy in new important wreck discovered!
Well Pat she is a fair way down. 300 meters I believe. It would take some serious equipment to get anywhere near her at that sort of depth given most conventional subs have a crush depth of about 400 meters.
Of course increasing the penalty for looting such wrecks to maybe include being locked in a small room with a dozen or so very angry ex-pussers might also work!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from Canute in new important wreck discovered!
Well Pat she is a fair way down. 300 meters I believe. It would take some serious equipment to get anywhere near her at that sort of depth given most conventional subs have a crush depth of about 400 meters.
Of course increasing the penalty for looting such wrecks to maybe include being locked in a small room with a dozen or so very angry ex-pussers might also work!
Chris
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vossy got a reaction from BLACK VIKING in new important wreck discovered!
Well Pat she is a fair way down. 300 meters I believe. It would take some serious equipment to get anywhere near her at that sort of depth given most conventional subs have a crush depth of about 400 meters.
Of course increasing the penalty for looting such wrecks to maybe include being locked in a small room with a dozen or so very angry ex-pussers might also work!
Chris
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