J T Lombard

Engineer57
How do you know if you have the updated kit?
 
regards
 
J

Joe It's just wood, it can be fixed.
 
J

Joe It's just wood, it can be fixed.
 
J

Joe It's just wood, it can be fixed.
 
J

Hi Jason
Having just had a small heart attack, I checked the plans. They show the cleats(?) on the battens as I have them. Whether the plans are wrong .... It would be no big thing to re-do them, but I would prefer to keep them as is.  Do you have a picture of the arrangement you have suggested?
 
J: I bought the clamps at my local hardware store. I use them often -  they were cheap and are very effective. Unfortunately my hardware store is in Sydney, Australia which is probably a bit out of your way. (I'm sure you will find Home Depot would have something similar.)

Moxis,
 
Producing rope to match all the correct required sizes is not a simple matter - at least not for me.  Some up front work is required.  The process I have used in the past and am now into for Young America may be helpful to you:
 
The first order of business is to produce a rigging list that among other things specifies the size and type of every line.  Sizes can come from Steel, Lees, Underhill, drawings or other depending on the era and type of ship.  Although this may reveal the need for chain or wire, I will stick to rope.
 
From this, develop a list of all the sizes needed, whether the rope is right or left hand.  You may also want to distinguish 3 vs. 4 strand, but I find this hard to differentiate on models without close examination.  I assume you will be making your own rope and are able to turn out consistent sizes for a given recipe.
 
Rope sizes are given in circumference.  Divide this by 3.14 to get rope diameter. Convert the scale diameters to actual measure and add this data to your list.
 
Then determine the material you will use.  I prefer linen for hardness and stretch resistance, but good linen is almost impossible to get since Barbour closed their operations in Lisburn, Ireland. Some of their business was picked up by Coats, but the quality does not seem as good and the most usable size (100) is no longer (?) made.  There may be good lacemaking linen available and I would love to hear about sources, but I have found quality wanting.  Only the very best quality linen is free of fuzz and slubs (bumps of fiber).  This leaves cotton, which commonly used by many modelers.  I have not used cotton, but expect to use it on some smaller YA running rigging.  Use long staple (Egyption) cotton to reduce stretching. I used mercerized cotton polyester on my 1:96 Victory model for small lines (<4").  It worked well and has not sagged in the last 8 years, but can be somewhat fuzzy.  
 
When you have decided on material get some of the smallest size available.  I use 4 different sizes of linen, some very fine crochetting cotton and some quilting cotton, which has a smooth finish.  I use white thread then stain it later.  Then start making rope.
 
I start by making the small sizes.  One thread times 2, 3 and 4 strands.  This yields three sizes of rope.   Two strand rope is inauthentic but spun tightly produces a better looking model rope than most plain thread. Measure these with a micrometer and match each size made against the list.  Repeat this with heavier thread, using multiple threads per strand, or using some of the small made rope sizes to produce larger (cable laid, opposite hand) rope until you have found a ropemaking formula for each required size.  You may not get perfect size matches and some made rope may need to be used for more than one required size.  The smallest sizes may required the used of plain thread.
 
This testing and tabulation may seem like a lot of work, but once done you will have a recipe for each size rope, will know how much of each thread to purchase and will be able to quickly crank out what you need.  I spent a week before Christmas doing this analysis for YA where rope sizes go from 3/4" to 11" and use almost every size in between - including fractional inch sizes.
 
Good luck.
 
Ed

I was hopingto get a littlte more work done on the monte, but i threw my back out several days ago and just trying to get around is difficult. Getting old sucks!
 
Mike

Hello,
Now that I shall start thinking of rigging of my build, a wooden ketch Clara May which is in scale 1/48, I am totally confused about the thicknesses of the cords and threads which I need. I would like to place my order for all necessary cords at the same time, but what to order? There are hundreds of different materials and thicknesses available, but which of them to choose?
 
Matti

Shame all was lost ... I guess I will repopulate with truncated series of photos from beginning to today. Now at 450 hrs and finishing gun deck cannons. 
Material to follow after I get home from work.

I for one would appreciate that Mayohoo.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Mike.

John
 
Thanks for picture & link
 
J

John
 
Thanks for picture & link
 
J

John
Could you post a picture of the pliers you use in your metal work?
 
regards
 
J

Hello again,
Let's start my story!
From my childhood after I read "Captain Blood odyssey" I know that, sometime, I'll start to build my galleon. I bought this kit from Occre but after few days I decided to change everything. For the beginning my decision it was to place a new deck, the main deck, where, for about one year, I started my  apprenticeship. Sure, from the kit I keep only the keel, the frames and first layers strips wood. After that I closed the box of the kit!
After more than one year and half I was here:

Some more pictures from the past...

Photos from the planking time...

Sal, Nils:
 
Thanks for the lesson. It's hard to participate unless you know the language.
 
regards
 
J

Sal, Nils:
 
Thanks for the lesson. It's hard to participate unless you know the language.
 
regards
 
J

Sal, Nils:
 
Thanks for the lesson. It's hard to participate unless you know the language.
 
regards
 
J

Nils
Forgive my ignorance but could you show the pic you refer to when you talk about "sweeps" && "gallows"
 
regards
 
J

Nils
Forgive my ignorance but could you show the pic you refer to when you talk about "sweeps" && "gallows"
 
regards
 
J

Sal,
 
I've been lurking on your build. Awesome work, I have the Syren on the shelf.
 
I love the alligator clips. I guess you need them in the different sizes depending on the distance between deadeyes etc. 
 
Maybe one of you engineering types can figure out to make a set where the distance between clips is adjustable.
 
Regards

John, great looking close up. What camera did you gift yourself with?
 
regards
 
J

Hello J T
 
The plan sheet for the Constitution lists the rope sizes on the rigging plan. I just used those measurements and scaled the rope to those sizes. 
 
There are many ways to measure line diameter. The one I chose was a simple digital caliper that displays you your sizes in inches and mm. You have to find a way that works for you. You and I would probably come up with different sizes depending on how hard you squeeze your caliper. 
 
 I feel making my own rope gives me a more realistic look than just using the kit supplied few sizes. Plus the fact I want to get into some scratch building and figured this would be good practice for that.
 
Hope that helps and thanks for your interest

John, great looking close up. What camera did you gift yourself with?
 
regards
 
J