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From post #1 - Rules are simple: 1) Someone posts a picture of a ship, someone guesses the name of the ship. Whoever gets it right, posts the next picture. Make sure the name isn't showing. 2) It is to the poster to follow the thread as long as its ship was not found, and to be the judge of the proposed solutions. So, without the consent of the poster, the next one is not to post a new ship. 3) If the ship's name isn't guessed in a fortnight, the same player will show a picture with the ship's name and post a new "name the Ship picture. 4) If the player whose turn it is has not replied in a fortnight, then the previous winner gets to post again.

Robhvw - go ahead and post a new ship if you are so inclined. Old salt hasn't been on the site since November 22nd. Regards - Wayne

Hey, Adam - many thanks for the kind words! Should have seen the looks she got at the doctor's office waiting room the other day while she was knitting the blanket. Priceless!!!!

Well, the Admiral read this and is now contemplating how to make them some bedding - she muttered something about the mattress stuffed with straw and wandered off with a glazed look and something about how thick would a piece of straw be at scale....

Good evening, one and all. Have been working on the ECB with some nice progress. First, a full overhead view of current status. What, you may ask, are those things hanging over the rails? Well, mister man, them be home built nets for the hold. Yep, the Admiral has been busily making fish nets for the ECB. But wait, there's more! We can't have the crew shivering on the cold cabin - so knitted using common pins as the knitting needles, we have a scale blanket for the crew. I am still working on the stove - using the Fatsco Tiny Tot Stove as a model, it is made of a dowel cut to scale (about 18 inches tall, 13 inches in diameter). The legs are just toothpicks. Will be adding some sand into the base and a cooktop before running the stovepie to the overhead. Have been working on color scheme - think I will go back to a grey for the outside of the wet well - the brown just doesn't feel right. I like the bottom red on the interior. Will leave it partially unpainted as a repair underway. I will be keeping this section unplanked. I will also be leaving off some deck planks - probably around the wet well and also at the cabin. Not quite sure yet. I also have finished the bulkhead between the cabin and the hold. The hold side will be painted in the same way as the hold so it looks a tad weathered and worn. The cabin side will be a dirty white - backs up to the coal stove, so it would tend to get a bit mucky. I still need to do some more painting and paneling for the cabin before I start installing the deck framing. The forward hold is nearly finished, just need to decide what is going to be in there and anchor it in place. Appreciate any suggestions or ideas on how to make it look better - still a long road to travel with this one and am enjoying the ride!

Walt - The fore and aft pieces (the bed logs) need to fit tightly to the hull planking to get the good seal. The bed logs along the port and starboard have grooves (forget the technical term) that allow them to fit over the frames and then down to the planking. On the real boat, there would be a great deal of caulking and so on to seal the fit.

Eamonn - Sorry, no stove in the kit with this one! I am working on an update that will show the intermediate stage result - may go back and tweak the design slightly, though. Steal away, my friend - you flatter me!

Those frames look wonderful! Now, did you go all out and add stopwaters etc? :rolleyes: I can understand fully the challenge on the framing jig - from what I understand, if that is out of alignment it will come back to bite you down the road - often painfully! Enjoy the build, Tony -

Nice shop! Your Gorch Fock is looking sweet!

Nice looking set of weaponry, Maestro. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the Admiral as well.

It is a sad situation - and so very many questions remain unanswered related to the financial management by the organization. Of course, it didn't help when the former Executive Director resigned, went to work for another Non-profit as the Executive Director, which coincidentally had been hired to manage the Amistad....second non-profit is now, also, undergoing a major shake-up (the afore mentioned Exec Director is no longer with the second non-profit either). Sigh...for all the gory details check out the series of articles in the New London Day newspaper dating back to 2012, and also in some of the Maine media related to the Harvey Gamage.

Looking good, Adriaan. Getting those fiddly curves to look right can be frustrating - appears you have it setting in the right way.

You really need some larger furniture, mate! She looks sweet there - that case is fantastic!

Fantastic results, Bob - and she looks mighty fine in the place of honor!

One other resource you may want to check is the thesis by Peter Flynn - H.M.S. Pallas: historical reconstruction of an 18th-century Royal Navy frigate (2006) at Texas A&M - https://repository.tamu.edu/handle/1969.1/3765 While the Pallas was of a slightly earlier class (1757 - Venus class, 36 gun 5th rate) than the Triton (1773 - Mermaid class, 28 gun 6th rate) , the dimensions are fairly close, and there is quite a bit of detail in his thesis, which may be a bit more relevant than the 16 gun Swan class data. Dimensions listed for Pallas (1757) then for Triton (1773) Length: (gundeck) 128 ft 4 in (39.12 m) 124 ft 1 in (37.82 m) (keel) 106 ft 4 in (32.41 m) 103 ft 4.625 in (31.51188 m) Beam: 35 ft 10.75 in (10.94 m) 33 ft 7 in (10.24 m) Tonnage: 728 73/94 (bm) 620 21/94 (bm) Hope this helps a little!

Of course, there were frigates with the name Triton built in the 1769 Mermaid class (Triton launched in 1773), as well as a 24 gun sixth rate launched in 1745, and a later fifth rate launched in 1796. You may want to take a look at the thread here for some more details http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1270-hms-triton-history-background-request/ As far as the mast construction, it may well vary quite a bit. I am not familiar enough with the differences between the sloop (Swan class) and sixth rate (Mermaid class) but the length difference (about a 30 foot difference for the gundeck length, and almost 24 feet on keel), along with the beam (about a 6' 8" difference), the Mermaid class would have a larger rigging, which may result in the need for a made mast as opposed to a stick mast.

Beautiful, Sjors, just beautiful! Your current fleet is impressive - once you add the Aggie into that fleet, one would almost think you could dominate your local canals! It does leave me wondering, though, that since you have this apparent tendency to continue to grow the ships (appears the Aggie will dwarf the Fonz), what could you possibly have waiting in the wings?

The rate to be built determined the intended number of guns, decks, size etc. or did the desired number of guns determine the rate to be built based on the establishment in effect at the time? Sort of a chicken and egg paradox!

Good evening, one and all. It has been quite some time since my last update - but here at last is one! After spending more than a month not even picking up a piece of sandpaper or fitting a plank to the Essex, I have brought the Emma C. Berry back to the build table - being able to actually see the progress on her is quite rewarding. Have been continuing my work on the interior details. Continued fitting out the cabin, installed the rest of the ceiling on the port side and most of the ceiling on the starboard side as well - leaving a gap for a peep hole from the outside. My biggest sense of accomplishment, though, is the progress on the wet well. I intend to leave it at this stage - will be painting the interior in a red bottom paint color, but leaving a couple of planks bare to simulate repairs underway. Will also be finishing the bulkhead at the forward end of the cabin (in progress) - that will extend all the way to the deck beams (they are only dry-fitted for now to aid in the wet well construction and cabin bulkhead installation). The black square will have a sand base inside and then I will be making a small stove for the cabin - that may take a bit of trial and error! Since I intend to display her as a working vessel undergoing some minor replanking (both deck and hull), I opted for somewhat of a "stained" or "tarnished" look for the ceiling. Will also be distressing some of the other paint as well when the time gets closer. At any rate, here are the latest set of photos - ENJOY!!!

I hate to mention this, but your dishwasher is broken, Sjors... I figured that, with Fonzie wrapping up, and the Aggie well along as well, you would be starting something new to keep busy!!!

Beautiful work, Sjors - it took me a bit to find a gap in the crowd to look over your shoulder and see what was going on (thanks for the step stool - I am far too short to see over you unassisted!). So as you move down the home stretch, what is next - or did I miss that announcement somewhere?

Another manufacturer in the US with a good reputation for accurate designs is Bluejacket Shipcrafters (http://www.bluejacketinc.com/ ) - can't vouch for all of their model kits, but the Constitution and Jefferson Davis have good reputations, as do the schooner kits they make. The Constellation has been a long-time controversial ship. While Fouled Anchors (as well as Howard Chapelle in The Constellation Question) really seemed to close the chapter on the controversy, it seems to rise back up of it's own accord - most recently in Geoffrey Footner's book, USS Constellation: From Frigate to Sloop. The rebuttals, of course, continue by Dana Wegner (of Fouled Anchors fame). While the veracity of the claims made by those who claim the Constellation was stripped to her keel, 12 feet inserted, and then rebuilt with mainly timbers from the old frigate is beyond my pay grade to assess - I will note, however, that inserting a 12 foot keel section would require a much longer piece of inserted material - the original specifications by Humphreys specified that each scarph was to be: Keel of good sound white oak in 3 pieces. The middle piece to be not less than 80 feet if to be had. Scarphs not less than 12 feet to be kept clear of the main and fore steps sided in the midships 19 inches at the stem & post 17 inches and as deep as can be had. The scarphs all to be tabled and bolted with 5 bolts 1 1/8 inch diameter. False keel 6 inches thick but not to be put on until after the floor & keelson bolts are drove and riveted. Those 12 foot scarphs would necessitate a new section of keel that was at lest 36 feet in length, and that center 80 foot section would then be cut in half, resulting in two sections of only 40 feet, with but 16 feet not used in the scarphing. Having those additional joints in a longer keel would likely seriously detract from the structural integrity!

Good to see her moving forward, Adriann. The bowsprit and foremast are looking nice.

Very nice, Augie. Me likes much!

Dang - been wicked busy and almost missed this one! Nice looking "practice" work, Tony!!! I think I see a seat in the 3rd row near Sjors I'll grab so I can follow along as well.